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    08-26-2021, 04:45 PM (This post was last modified: 08-26-2021, 04:50 PM by Ming the Merciful.)
    (08-26-2021, 12:50 AM)Anders Wrote: We need to help the Venusians on earth! That's true service-to-others. And it requires the unity compass that I have been ranting about.

    Instead of the separate "me" trying to control a separate personal piece of reality, which I suspect inevitably leads to service-to-self, the green ray needs to be activated. And as Ra said, when the green ray is activated the blue ray immediately becomes activated which is the ray for communication. Then the sense of control takes a giant leap into a higher order of control which operates from wholeness that transcends and includes (see Ken Wilber's integral theories) the separate individual control.

    Why would the Venusians need help? Don't they have access to the Venus sphere of fifth density? Yes they do, but they are trapped like the rest of us on earth in third density dominated by the veil. And for them to be able to access the green ray requires that the rest of us on earth activate the green ray in ourselves. So the service-to-others is here actually service-to-all which includes oneself. No horrible self-sacrifice or selflessness required or even wanted as it perpetuates the separate self.

    A question? Does Reality exist beyond our Mind? The more I dig deeper into the subject, and I am learning from learned Scholars, everything appears as illusion, (and delusion)? Last night I downloaded a video on "What Video Are You Watching on YouTube". It was about Nepalese Buddhist Monks searching for the "Skywalker". The point that was made, was that in the writings of "Dakini", he had envisioned "Quantum Physics" hundreds of years ago. Once again, we return to the Akashic Records, (where he discovered the information), The "World Honoured One" had insights that modern day science is now discovering. Not only that, there was also a deep Metaphysical connection in his life that was beyond mere Human Knowledge. I must watch more of the videos, because they were amazing.



    The video in question. I highly recommend you watch it. It is ninety minutes long, and every minute is eye-opening. As somebody who is used to practising Zen and following Eastern tradition, even I found it amazing.

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    08-26-2021, 11:48 PM
    (08-26-2021, 04:45 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Does Reality exist beyond our Mind? The more I dig deeper into the subject, and I am learning from learned Scholars, everything appears as illusion, (and delusion)?

    Reality itself can't be an illusion. That would be to deny the existence of consciousness and only zombies can do that convincingly. Ra said that everything is thought and if by Mind we mean thought then that's all there is to reality.

    In my opinion reality is made of a web of fully interconnected relations. That's it! It's emptiness since the relations have no substance and it's also fullness (the plenum Ra talked about) since reality is completely packed with relations.

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    08-26-2021, 11:57 PM
    Fear is caused by the veil. Fear is a total delusion. Fear is the Creator being afraid of itself. Can anyone think of something more neurotic and delusional than an all-powerful Creator being afraid of itself?

    Death is a total delusion. Can the Creator kill itself? No, the Creator can't even change itself. And since the Creator exists it will always exist.

    Quote:"I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed." - Malachi 3:6

    "There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love." - 1 john 4

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    08-27-2021, 12:13 AM
    The veil is an absence rather than something that exists by itself. The veil is a result of an undeveloped state. As an analogy, a computer disconnected from the internet is a standalone computer, and we wouldn't say that the computer is blocked by a veil. The veil simply lacks an internet connection.

    And before the internet existed all computers were disconnected from the internet. They were all disconnected for there was no internet, they were not disconnected by a veil. And in a similar way the veil in the world can be seen as the lack of development into sufficiently high density.

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    08-27-2021, 12:58 AM
    Another way to look at it is that there ultimately are no illusions. Ra talked about service-to-self which is the path that is not, yet the STS past still exists! The same with fear. I certainly still have fears, so fear does exist.

    A third option is that there are illusions or no illusions depending on the perspective. Ra said that there can be STS up all the way up to mid 6th density and it's only at that very high level of development when the illusions collapse completely on a cosmic level.

    I define love as wholeness in harmony. And there can only be wholeness in harmony in the service-to-others (STO) path, the TRUE path, haha, represented in Christianity by Christ as the way and the truth and the life.

    Even on a material level fear is a result of a disconnect as Bruce Lipton explains in this short video:

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    08-27-2021, 01:03 AM
    Even love has an effect on the material level, explained by Bruce Lipton in this short video:

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    08-27-2021, 01:31 AM
    (08-26-2021, 04:45 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Once again, we return to the Akashic Records, ...

    From 20 minutes they talk about space memory. That's a term used (and I think coined) by alternative researcher Nassim Haramein. I believe that's precisely correct. And they also said that the Akashic Records store all information for the entire universe, not only for earth. That too is correct it seems to me.

    It's very easy to explained with my model of reality as a growing web of relations. All the relations are indestructible! So they form a memory, Akashic Records that contain all past information.

    Some ancient teachings talk about evolution as going in cycles. In my model reality is always expanding, but yes cycles in the form of an upward moving spiral are possible. For example before the "fall" of humanity there was no veil and humanity lived in unity, but it was in an undeveloped state. So after the veil we return to unity, like in a cyclic return to a golden age, on a higher and more developed level than in the past cycles.

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    08-27-2021, 03:57 AM
    I recently learned about Barry Long who I find to be a really curious teacher. In this video from about 14 minutes he talks about the emotional body. That's a great concept! What Barry calls the emotional body seems to be a large part of the veil producing tensions in the body and mind.

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    08-27-2021, 04:21 AM
    Erwin Schrodinger once said that the number of minds in the universe is one. This is pretty much what the main religions on Earth have said. I would think that the illusion is anything that deviates from that realization as we are all one but do not see it yet.

    As Ra has said, 3rd dimension is not the dimension of understanding, so there's no real pressure for us to come to a full realization just yet.
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    08-27-2021, 06:05 AM
    (08-27-2021, 04:21 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: Erwin Schrodinger once said that the number of minds in the universe is one. This is pretty much what the main religions on Earth have said. I would think that the illusion is anything that deviates from that realization as we are all one but do not see it yet.

    As Ra has said, 3rd dimension is not the dimension of understanding, so there's no real pressure for us to come to a full realization just yet.

    That's a good point. The experience of separation is the fundamental illusion. It's also similar to the word "sin" which means "to miss the mark", meaning in this context missing recognizing the oneness of reality. As I understand it the oneness connection requires green-ray (heart chakra) activation. There can be an intellectual understanding of oneness but it requires a green-ray activation for it to become realized/actualized.
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    08-27-2021, 08:16 AM
    There is a form of self-sacrifice and selflessness needed, so I will correct myself a bit. And the self-sacrifice needed is of one's own personal compass, the individual personal willpower.

    In order to as Ra said grasp the needle and make our compasses point in one direction requires a change of the personal compasses and that is a form of self-sacrifice and of selflessness.

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    08-27-2021, 11:15 AM
    New video by Gigi Young! Almost 4 hours but I think it could be worth it. She is one of the most advanced esoteric teachers I have found so far.

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    08-27-2021, 03:22 PM
    If the self-sacrifice is just of the personal compass in order to gain the unity compass, is it then really a sacrifice?

    In one way, it's not much of a sacrifice since we gain a much more powerful compass. In another sense it's actually a more real self-sacrifice than the usual meaning of that term. Why? Because with usual self-sacrifice we ourselves decide with our personal willpower what kind of sacrifice to make in specific terms and for what situations. Sacrificing the personal compass on the other hand means giving up that personal control and willpower which makes it more of a true self-sacrifice.

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    08-27-2021, 05:37 PM
    (08-27-2021, 03:22 PM)Anders Wrote: If the self-sacrifice is just of the personal compass in order to gain the unity compass, is it then really a sacrifice?

    In one way, it's not much of a sacrifice since we gain a much more powerful compass. In another sense it's actually a more real self-sacrifice than the usual meaning of that term. Why? Because with usual self-sacrifice we ourselves decide with our personal willpower what kind of sacrifice to make in specific terms and for what situations. Sacrificing the personal compass on the other hand means giving up that personal control and willpower which makes it more of a true self-sacrifice.

    One of the latest videos I watched recently said, that the Universe, (as a whole), is "Consciousness", and viewing from that standpoint, then individual Consciousness are fragments of the "Whole". Similar to a brain and individual cells. There are those that say, that Human Consciousness resides in the Penial Gland. I lean in that direction because it is centered in the middle of the brain, and controlling all other aspects, (the Motherboard), and the "CPU". I agree, the Veil is a self-construction, (which we create). I am searching for a sharp knife to cut the Veil. The Veil is the delusion.

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    08-27-2021, 11:30 PM
    (08-27-2021, 05:37 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:
    (08-27-2021, 03:22 PM)Anders Wrote: If the self-sacrifice is just of the personal compass in order to gain the unity compass, is it then really a sacrifice?

    In one way, it's not much of a sacrifice since we gain a much more powerful compass. In another sense it's actually a more real self-sacrifice than the usual meaning of that term. Why? Because with usual self-sacrifice we ourselves decide with our personal willpower what kind of sacrifice to make in specific terms and for what situations. Sacrificing the personal compass on the other hand means giving up that personal control and willpower which makes it more of a true self-sacrifice.

    One of the latest videos I watched recently said, that the Universe, (as a whole), is "Consciousness", and viewing from that standpoint, then individual Consciousness are fragments of the "Whole". Similar to a brain and individual cells. There are those that say, that Human Consciousness resides in the Penial Gland. I lean in that direction because it is centered in the middle of the brain, and controlling all other aspects, (the Motherboard), and the "CPU". I agree, the Veil is a self-construction, (which we create). I am searching for a sharp knife to cut the Veil. The Veil is the delusion.

    I usually experience consciousness as located in my head. There are also out-of-body experiences (OBEs) that might be real. And then consciousness manifests in the zero-point energy in "empty" space.

    Ra said that everything is thought and some spiritual teachers say that everything is consciousness. I think they mean the same thing. My definition is that consciousness is the infinite being aware of the finite manifestation of itself.

    Regarding breaking through the veil I think that will happen like how a clock strikes the hour at an exact moment in time for each person, something already predetermined. Why? Because reality is changeless at the fundamental level. If the One reality would change it would turn into something which is it not. Can't happen.

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    08-28-2021, 03:15 AM
    (08-27-2021, 06:05 AM)Anders Wrote:
    (08-27-2021, 04:21 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: Erwin Schrodinger once said that the number of minds in the universe is one. This is pretty much what the main religions on Earth have said. I would think that the illusion is anything that deviates from that realization as we are all one but do not see it yet.

    As Ra has said, 3rd dimension is not the dimension of understanding, so there's no real pressure for us to come to a full realization just yet.

    That's a good point. The experience of separation is the fundamental illusion. It's also similar to the word "sin" which means "to miss the mark", meaning in this context missing recognizing the oneness of reality. As I understand it the oneness connection requires green-ray (heart chakra) activation. There can be an intellectual understanding of oneness but it requires a green-ray activation for it to become realized/actualized.

    Our green rays are being activated as the planet ascends so it will be interesting to see how humans begin to perceive themselves in relation to each other.

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    08-28-2021, 03:32 AM
    (08-28-2021, 03:15 AM)KaliSouth Wrote:
    (08-27-2021, 06:05 AM)Anders Wrote:
    (08-27-2021, 04:21 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: Erwin Schrodinger once said that the number of minds in the universe is one. This is pretty much what the main religions on Earth have said. I would think that the illusion is anything that deviates from that realization as we are all one but do not see it yet.

    As Ra has said, 3rd dimension is not the dimension of understanding, so there's no real pressure for us to come to a full realization just yet.

    That's a good point. The experience of separation is the fundamental illusion. It's also similar to the word "sin" which means "to miss the mark", meaning in this context missing recognizing the oneness of reality. As I understand it the oneness connection requires green-ray (heart chakra) activation. There can be an intellectual understanding of oneness but it requires a green-ray activation for it to become realized/actualized.

    Our green rays are being activated as the planet ascends so it will be interesting to see how humans begin to perceive themselves in relation to each other.

    Many New Age teachings talk about a split of timelines. Even Ra confirmed something similar:

    Quote:"Questioner: Then as we enter the fourth density there will be a split, shall we say, and part of the individuals who go into the fourth density will go to planets or places where there is service to others and the other part will go into places where there is service to self.

    Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct." - Law of One 16.12

    And Jesus talked about separating the goats from the sheep. I don't believe in actual separate timelines but I guess what will happen is that those people who fully activate their green ray will form a new level of society so in that sense almost like a separate timeline.

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    08-28-2021, 11:18 AM
    I'm listening to Gigi Young's latest lecture again because I didn't get much of it the first time. Something I now found is that she said that it's possible to merge one's consciousness with the consciousness of another person, even with a higher being and so to be able to access the Akashic records.

    If it's possible to merge collectively like that, many people together, that must be a huge consciousness. And maybe what Ra meant by blue ray activation is this kind of merging of consciousness rather than some ordinary kind of communication or narrow band telepathy. Ra said that blue ray activation (at the time of the channeling) was rare on earth, but that seems to be changing now.

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    08-28-2021, 11:36 AM (This post was last modified: 08-28-2021, 11:40 AM by Anders.)
    Now I get more out of Gigi's lecture. Hopefully I'm not reading too much of my own interpretations into it by doing a more esoteric interpretation and combining what she said with the Venusians on earth.

    Cosmic timelines are much vaster than the timelines that we usually focus on, Gigi said. That made me think of how merging one's consciousness with the Venusians is about a much larger and different timeline than our usual ordinary daily life experience on earth. What that means in practice I don't know, but I guess one should expect quite a different kind of timeline when merging consciousnesses.

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    In addition to Venusians there are lots of Nephilim running around on earth. I'm not sure yet, but I believe those are two different kinds of humans. There are also ETs like the Greys, which I suspect are from the newer breakaway civilization and therefore actually from earth.

    From a fear-based perspective contacting all the different kinds of higher (and possibly lower) beings is scary. What Gigi Young said is that contact on higher levels requires love and a heart connection. That sounds very much like the green-ray activation Ra has described. And then contact is still probably challenging but it will be a peaceful process, not underground battles with reptilians, lol.

    Gigi Young has this video about this kind of contact which may give a few clues:
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    08-28-2021, 05:38 PM
    (08-28-2021, 02:13 PM)Anders Wrote: In addition to Venusians there are lots of Nephilim running around on earth. I'm not sure yet, but I believe those are two different kinds of humans. There are also ETs like the Greys, which I suspect are from the newer breakaway civilization and therefore actually from earth.

    From a fear-based perspective contacting all the different kinds of higher (and possibly lower) beings is scary. What Gigi Young said is that contact on higher levels requires love and a heart connection. That sounds very much like the green-ray activation Ra has described. And then contact is still probably challenging but it will be a peaceful process, not underground battles with reptilians, lol.

    Gigi Young has this video about this kind of contact which may give a few clues:

    We, (definitely), are not alone? There are civilizations so much more advanced than us, (mere Humans), we are like the, (proverbial), monkeys that had climbed down from the trees. They had not even evolved to Apes. Honour the Ape, and honour the Monkey. Perhaps we should pay homage to the Chinese and Indian myths of "Monkey God(s)"? Although in their advancement, the "Alien God(s)" have their "God(s)" that are even more advanced. Everything is relative. The infinite evolution within the Universe, where there is always something higher and more advanced.

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    08-28-2021, 06:17 PM
    Something even scarier from a fear-based perspective than contacting inter-dimensional beings is the merging of our consciousnesses. I have a "pretty" facade towards the outside hiding an ugly inside. And that's the standard mode of the individual in veiled third density.

    Joining the consciousness of say 1,000 people like that is not a pretty picture. That's why the collective consciousness will be radically different than our current isolated consciousness. And that's why self-sacrifice and selflessness are needed because both the pretty facades and the ugly insides will be discarded and only our uniqueness as individuals will be preserved (harvested).
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    08-28-2021, 06:53 PM
    (08-28-2021, 06:17 PM)Anders Wrote: Something even scarier from a fear-based perspective than contacting inter-dimensional beings is the merging of our consciousnesses. I have a "pretty" facade towards the outside hiding an ugly inside. And that's the standard mode of the individual in veiled third density.

    Joining the consciousness of say 1,000 people like that is not a pretty picture. That's why the collective consciousness will be radically different than our current isolated consciousness. And that's why self-sacrifice and selflessness are needed because both the pretty facades and the ugly insides will be discarded and only our uniqueness as individuals will be preserved (harvested).

    I agree Anders. Memories of the "Borg" in Star Trek, (Next Generation). We are the Collective, we are Borg. Although at the point of death, and we return to the Universal Consciousness, do we fear our "Group Consciousness"? It is said, that everything has Spirit and how do we not know that the lower lifeforms are not already living a "Collective Consciousness". Perhaps in our separation, we have lost that? We are not those who are normal, and in our seeking individuality, we lost the Universal Consciousness? The "Great Spirit".

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    08-30-2021, 11:25 AM
    Brad Johnson has done his last Adronis channeling. As usual I don't know what to make of it except that something that resonated with me was an answer to someone asking about her star family, something like that and Adronis recommended starting with connecting with Venus and then to Sirius and other stars. The Venus to Sirius connection is highly significant to earth I have found. I also like this part about Christ and something similar to the blackening stage in alchemy:

    Quote:".. you're dissolving all of these old facets pertaining to corruption pertaining to darkness and shadow. All of that has to go in order for you to know God and that is what the Christ represents; one who has completely cleared away all forms of individuality, separate self, ignorant ego and has replaced it by knowing God that is the Christ." - Adronis

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    The blackening stage in esoteric alchemy can sound scary for it's about the breaking down of the personal self. One trick however is that this includes the feeling of being insecure!

    The usual personal self always feels insecure because of certainties like inevitable death and other inevitable dangers for the physical body and even inevitable psychological and material threats in the form of loss of career, loss of social status and on and on.

    Here Byron Katie's method The Work is useful as a questioning of those beliefs: Is it certain that I'm insecure? Is it absolutely certain that I'm insecure? That's a radical questioning of certainties that actually are beliefs when looking at it deep down as the future will be different than the past. Therefore the blackening stage is also about breaking down scary beliefs like that.
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    (08-30-2021, 05:51 PM)Anders Wrote: The blackening stage in esoteric alchemy can sound scary for it's about the breaking down of the personal self. One trick however is that this includes the feeling of being insecure!

    The usual personal self always feels insecure because of certainties like inevitable death and other inevitable dangers for the physical body and even inevitable psychological and material threats in the form of loss of career, loss of social status and on and on.

    Here Byron Katie's method The Work is useful as a questioning of those beliefs: Is it certain that I'm insecure? Is it absolutely certain that I'm insecure? That's a radical questioning of certainties that actually are beliefs when looking at it deep down as the future will be different than the past. Therefore the blackening stage is also about breaking down scary beliefs like that.

    Anders this is strange? Or, I am observing it differently from another perspective. In Zen, we were taught overcoming our insecurities and ego. By gaining inner strength and the ability to know yourself, then we lose our insecurities. We are only insecure, if we think we are insecure. Once we comprehend our "Inner Reality", then there is a natural loss of "Self". Once again, insecurity is just another emotion that must be overcome.

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    (08-30-2021, 06:04 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:
    (08-30-2021, 05:51 PM)Anders Wrote: The blackening stage in esoteric alchemy can sound scary for it's about the breaking down of the personal self. One trick however is that this includes the feeling of being insecure!

    The usual personal self always feels insecure because of certainties like inevitable death and other inevitable dangers for the physical body and even inevitable psychological and material threats in the form of loss of career, loss of social status and on and on.

    Here Byron Katie's method The Work is useful as a questioning of those beliefs: Is it certain that I'm insecure? Is it absolutely certain that I'm insecure? That's a radical questioning of certainties that actually are beliefs when looking at it deep down as the future will be different than the past. Therefore the blackening stage is also about breaking down scary beliefs like that.

    Anders this is strange? Or, I am observing it differently from another perspective. In Zen, we were taught overcoming our insecurities and ego. By gaining inner strength and the ability to know yourself, then we lose our insecurities. We are only insecure, if we think we are insecure. Once we comprehend our "Inner Reality", then there is a natural loss of "Self". Once again, insecurity is just another emotion that must be overcome.

    But what about subconscious insecurities? What if the belief in certain death causes death for example? A false certainty. I know, it's an extrem questioning of beliefs yet still it's logically valid. The future may be different than the past; in the future taxes and death are uncertain.
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    (08-30-2021, 06:16 PM)Anders Wrote:
    (08-30-2021, 06:04 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:
    (08-30-2021, 05:51 PM)Anders Wrote: The blackening stage in esoteric alchemy can sound scary for it's about the breaking down of the personal self. One trick however is that this includes the feeling of being insecure!

    The usual personal self always feels insecure because of certainties like inevitable death and other inevitable dangers for the physical body and even inevitable psychological and material threats in the form of loss of career, loss of social status and on and on.

    Here Byron Katie's method The Work is useful as a questioning of those beliefs: Is it certain that I'm insecure? Is it absolutely certain that I'm insecure? That's a radical questioning of certainties that actually are beliefs when looking at it deep down as the future will be different than the past. Therefore the blackening stage is also about breaking down scary beliefs like that.

    Anders this is strange? Or, I am observing it differently from another perspective. In Zen, we were taught overcoming our insecurities and ego. By gaining inner strength and the ability to know yourself, then we lose our insecurities. We are only insecure, if we think we are insecure. Once we comprehend our "Inner Reality", then there is a natural loss of "Self". Once again, insecurity is just another emotion that must be overcome.

    But what about subconscious insecurities? What if the belief in certain death causes death for example? A false certainty. I know, it's an extrem questioning of beliefs yet still it's logically valid. The future may be different than the past; in the future taxes and death are uncertain.

    According to Zen, when we are in the "Neutral State" such uncertainties as death is just a transition from one form to another. Death is inevitable, and we must accept it as a part of life. We will have no control when it, (actually), happens. Also in Zen, we must be prepared for it. We can go fighting and resistance, or we can be calm and accept it. If we are calm, (in all things), then everything takes its natural course. We must also learn to control our Subconscious in the way that we control Conscious Mind. It is how we approach life.

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    08-30-2021, 06:53 PM
    Maybe the beliefs in false certainties cause insecurity! It's a form of fear which is an illusion. Our personal self has a huge load of certainties, some of which remain unquestioned with inevitable death of course being one of the most ingrained certainties in the human psyche.

    Interestingly, esoteric alchemy is not only about questioning the belief in certain death, it's a process for how to overcome death!

    Quote:"In alchemy, nigredo, or blackness, means putrefaction or decomposition. Many alchemists believed that as a first step in the pathway to the philosopher's stone, all alchemical ingredients had to be cleansed and cooked extensively to a uniform black matter.[1]" - Wikipedia

    "The philosopher's stone, more properly philosophers' stone ...  It is also called the elixir of life, useful for rejuvenation and for achieving immortality;[1]" - Wikipedia

    Exoteric alchemy (the usual public meaning of alchemy) is generally about turning base metals into gold. In mystery schools alchemy is a process of personal transformation. So my radical idea may not be radical at all when moving into more esoteric circles.

    A guess I have is that the yellow-ray body will inevitably die, while the green-ray body is the immortal one (Ra doesn't say that but I think it can be interpreted that way with Law of Confusion language). And that the blackening stage in alchemy is about burning down, decomposing the yellow-ray body so that the green-ray body can arise like a phoenix out of the ashes of the mortal yellow-ray body of flesh. As I wrote about earlier, I associate the green-ray body with a golden heart (kundalini red + heart chakra green = yellow = gold). And the key to transmuting the heart is the philosopher's stone.

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    08-30-2021, 07:02 PM
    (08-30-2021, 06:53 PM)Anders Wrote: Maybe the beliefs in false certainties cause insecurity! It's a form of fear which is an illusion. Our personal self has a huge load of certainties, some of which remain unquestioned with inevitable death of course being one of the most ingrained certainties in the human psyche.

    Interestingly, esoteric alchemy is not only about questioning the belief in certain death, it's a process for how to overcome death!


    Quote:"In alchemy, nigredo, or blackness, means putrefaction or decomposition. Many alchemists believed that as a first step in the pathway to the philosopher's stone, all alchemical ingredients had to be cleansed and cooked extensively to a uniform black matter.[1]" - Wikipedia

    "The philosopher's stone, more properly philosophers' stone ...  It is also called the elixir of life, useful for rejuvenation and for achieving immortality;[1]" - Wikipedia

    Exoteric alchemy (the usual public meaning of alchemy) is generally about turning base metals into gold. In mystery schools alchemy is a process of personal transformation. So my radical idea may not be radical at all when moving into more esoteric circles.

    A guess I have is that the yellow-ray body will inevitably die, while the green-ray body is the immortal one (Ra doesn't say that but I think it can be interpreted that way with Law of Confusion language). And that the blackening stage in alchemy is about burning down, decomposing the yellow-ray body so that the green-ray body can arise like a phoenix out of the ashes of the mortal yellow-ray body of flesh. As I wrote about earlier, I associate the green-ray body with a golden heart (kundalini red + heart chakra green = yellow = gold). And the key to transmuting the heart is the philosopher's stone.

    Everything is in a state of change. Nothing remains the same. Once we accept that there is a constant Universal transition and an ongoing metamorphosis, then we lose our fear. We are a part of the Universe, and that change. What seems an eternity of time, is only a millisecond in the eyes of Brahma. Compare your life to a beetle. You live for eighty years, while the beetle lives a month. To the beetle, your life is eternal. Everything is relative, interconnected and interlinked and in the diversity there is a constant unity between all things.

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