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    Thread: Orange ray society situation.


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    05-23-2011, 11:16 AM
    Yellow, green, harvest, all is ok. but, what will happen to orange conscious ?

    most of society on this planet is vibrating in orange consciousness. not even yellow.

    you get on a boat to cross to the other side of the bay, you close your eyes towards the sun. what you see is orange in color. boat moves, moves, approaches the middle of the bay, which is rather far from the city. the color starts to turn to green, and it becomes true color green. then you move closer to the other bay. green gets tainted, and starts to turn to yellow, and as you approach the other side of bay, it gets back to orange again.

    the city (and the entities in it) are vibrating in orange. in bodies which are designed for yellow.

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#13

    3d body is unable to withstand 4d in full.

    however, there is no 4d sphere yet, and wherever there is, it is just forming, and overlaps with 3d sphere so far. the 3d sphere, we speak of may be a misnomer, since 3d vibrations will be found in areas where the society vibrates in yellow spectrum.

    so then, in a city which mainly vibrates in orange, there wont be a problem of facing 4d in full, because very probably there wont be any 4d vibrations.

    if, one of the 3d entities come into the middle of the bay of course.

    ..........

    downline is,

    since most high 2d bodies are able to do 3d work (ra says), is it possible for entities who are living in an urban orange environment to remain alive into the transition in 4d ? all they need, is to not face any environment in which there are 4d vibrations.

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    05-23-2011, 12:32 PM
    Quote:most of society on this planet is vibrating in orange consciousness. not even yellow.

    What do you mean by this? I didn't quite get the boat analogy...

    Do you mean 'societies' as in plants/animals? I've always taken orange-leaning humans as bearing the autistic spectrum... rejecting yellow for orange/incoming green. Anywho, can you elucidate?

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    05-23-2011, 07:27 PM
    it was something Ra noted. heavily orange consciousness of the planet, was the identification they have made.

    boat analogy is something i have observed while on a boat ride from one end of the bay to the other in the city.

    orange is not particular to autistics. the society itself is vibrating in orange for the most part, and it tints everything.

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    05-23-2011, 07:36 PM
    autistics interact with people. doesn't that mean yellow?

    Ra says 2d entities can exist in 4d, meaning we can have animals. it's 3d that can't be with 4d. so yeah we should be able to have physical 2d bodies hey? or at least coexist.

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    05-23-2011, 07:42 PM
    (05-23-2011, 07:36 PM)Oceania Wrote: autistics interact with people. doesn't that mean yellow?

    conceptually, mentally, yes. in regard to energetic vibrations, not necessarily.

    higher 2 d entities nearing graduation also interact intelligently, and Ra says higher 2d bodies are well able to conduct 3d work.

    Quote:Ra says 2d entities can exist in 4d, meaning we can have animals. it's 3d that can't be with 4d. so yeah we should be able to have physical 2d bodies hey? or at least coexist.

    if so, then logically vast swaths of this society could exist under 4d vibrations, as long as they keep the vibrations of their locale low near orange.

    but, that may flop if there isnt any yellow to be used for time/space purposes. so even if it works in space/time, it may not work from the time/space side, and it may cause malfunction in entities.

    i guess the '3d energy stored for use' talk quo speaks about, pertains to this.

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    05-23-2011, 07:50 PM
    Ra says we can't hide ourselves from 3d people thus we have to be separate, that's the reason we have to separate come harvest. we haven't the skills to cloak as new 4d entities. where does it say it's physically impossible to coexist?

    why wouldn't there be yellow? there's plenty of yellow imo. as for autistics, i wonder how my yellow ray is, i do believe even autistics need to have it activated.

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    05-23-2011, 07:56 PM
    It seems to me that a third component could be added to this discussion about harvest:

    1. Harvests 1st, 2nd, 3rd cycle
    2. on last 3d cycle: 4d space-time activation or what is called "full activation" of 4d sphere
    3. On last 3d cycle: Transition (short) of dual activated bodies to 4d

    The orange ray is present but I think we are dealing with a space-time event at the end of third cycle that has a direct effect of the physical vehicle body-mind complex...spirit mainly in time-space at his point...

    Even martians were able to continue 3d existence...(not the maldekians though, at least for a while)...

    The so called activation and harvest are pretty much automatic; the transition is variable...

    The true color of the 3d physical vehicles can only be obtained by the entities form the next octave at harvest.

    The orange consciousness is almost an artifact in that it is not dealing with a second density physical vehicle. This green energy will affect third density physical vehicles and obviously 3d-4d activated bodies.

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    05-23-2011, 08:00 PM
    what do you make of the way the martians were moved?

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    05-23-2011, 08:06 PM
    (05-23-2011, 08:00 PM)Oceania Wrote: what do you make of the way the martians were moved?

    good catch.

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    05-23-2011, 08:22 PM
    There should not be yellow (or at least is in "potentiation") because point number 2 above is supposed to be a "quantum" jump.

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    05-23-2011, 08:30 PM (This post was last modified: 05-23-2011, 08:31 PM by Oceania.)
    yellow is not in potentiation, it's supposed to be active.
    (05-23-2011, 08:06 PM)unity100 Wrote:
    (05-23-2011, 08:00 PM)Oceania Wrote: what do you make of the way the martians were moved?

    good catch.

    how so? Tongue

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    05-23-2011, 08:34 PM
    (05-23-2011, 08:30 PM)Oceania Wrote: yellow is not in potentiation, it's supposed to be active.
    (05-23-2011, 08:06 PM)unity100 Wrote:
    (05-23-2011, 08:00 PM)Oceania Wrote: what do you make of the way the martians were moved?

    good catch.

    how so? Tongue

    I'm referring after harvest.

    Or yellow could be enough to be used by 3d-4d activated but potentiated enough so it cannot be used by exclusively 3d's

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    #13
    05-23-2011, 08:35 PM
    i'm confused, we're in the yellow ray density.

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    05-23-2011, 08:57 PM
    For an orange entity capable of 3d work...you guys should meet my 1 year old dog...
    (05-23-2011, 08:35 PM)Oceania Wrote: i'm confused, we're in the yellow ray density.

    You're right, I'm taking about earth being green "activated" (and red and orange) and yellow, blue, indigo not activated but in potentiation after 3d harvest on last 3d cycle. At least yellow in potentiation for a while until 4d entities learn to shield 4d form 3d...

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    05-23-2011, 11:13 PM
    An energy ray in potentiation is still functioning and operative. Potentiation does not mean dormant. It is not an undeveloped state. Its energy does not cease.

    Potentiation means that the yellow ray is strengthening the activated rays.

    Quote:40.11 Questioner: Starting then, forty-five years ago, and taking the entire increase of vibration that we will experience in this density change, approximately what percentage through this increase in vibrational change are we right now?
    Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory nature of your environment is true color, green. This is at this time heavily over-woven with the orange ray of planetary consciousness. However, the nature of quanta is such that the movement over the boundary is that of discrete placement of vibratory level.


    This does not mean "heavily orange consciousness of the planet". The "heavy" pertains to the weave not the consciousness.

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    05-23-2011, 11:37 PM
    (05-23-2011, 11:13 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: An energy ray in potentiation is still functioning and operative. Potentiation does not mean dormant. It is not an undeveloped state. Its energy does not cease.

    Potentiation means that the yellow ray is strengthening the activated rays.

    I mean it this way, as something manifesting in space-time:

    Quote:47.10 Questioner: Then the yellow-ray body in potentiation is used to create this chemical arrangement that I have as a physical body now. Is this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect only in that in your present incarnation the yellow-ray body is not in potentiation but in activation, it being that body which is manifest.

    Quote:40.11 Questioner: Starting then, forty-five years ago, and taking the entire increase of vibration that we will experience in this density change, approximately what percentage through this increase in vibrational change are we right now?

    Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory nature of your environment is true color, green. This is at this time heavily over-woven with the orange ray of planetary consciousness. However, the nature of quanta is such that the movement over the boundary is that of discrete placement of vibratory level.

    Quote:This does not mean "heavily orange consciousness of the planet". The "heavy" pertains to the weave not the consciousness.

    Indeed, it shows in my opinion the red ray trends due to the oppressive structure of economic system, etc dominating the yellow sphere in activation...

    Moreover, it seems the nature of the quanta is such that in spite of this, green/4d will be activated (space-time manifested) due to quantum jump of vibratory level since this is after all, a yellow sphere at this time (manifested) <----note the word...

    Quote:6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to the progression of cycles at this time?
    Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.
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    05-23-2011, 11:49 PM
    That's interesting. I wouldn't have attempted to correlate it that way.

    The simpleness that orange remains activated during green Ray activation is enough for me. The weave would be a simple part of it.
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    06-04-2011, 01:10 PM (This post was last modified: 06-04-2011, 01:12 PM by vbaba.)
    (05-23-2011, 11:16 AM)unity100 Wrote: Yellow, green, harvest, all is ok. but, what will happen to orange conscious ?

    most of society on this planet is vibrating in orange consciousness. not even yellow.

    you get on a boat to cross to the other side of the bay, you close your eyes towards the sun. what you see is orange in color. boat moves, moves, approaches the middle of the bay, which is rather far from the city. the color starts to turn to green, and it becomes true color green. then you move closer to the other bay. green gets tainted, and starts to turn to yellow, and as you approach the other side of bay, it gets back to orange again.

    the city (and the entities in it) are vibrating in orange. in bodies which are designed for yellow.

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#13

    3d body is unable to withstand 4d in full.

    however, there is no 4d sphere yet, and wherever there is, it is just forming, and overlaps with 3d sphere so far. the 3d sphere, we speak of may be a misnomer, since 3d vibrations will be found in areas where the society vibrates in yellow spectrum.

    so then, in a city which mainly vibrates in orange, there wont be a problem of facing 4d in full, because very probably there wont be any 4d vibrations.

    if, one of the 3d entities come into the middle of the bay of course.

    ..........

    downline is,

    since most high 2d bodies are able to do 3d work (ra says), is it possible for entities who are living in an urban orange environment to remain alive into the transition in 4d ? all they need, is to not face any environment in which there are 4d vibrations.

    This one intervenes with the knowledge that the Orange Ray of Change will be with us always. 1st Density, the Mineral Kingdom is the Red Ray. 2nd Density, Plants and Animals are ruled by the Orange Ray. 3rd Density Human is ruled by the Yellow Ray of Emotions. 4th Density MAN vibrates to the Green Ray of Love. 5th Density Quasi MAN is the Blue Ray. 6th Density Social Memory Complex vibrates Indigo. 7th Density is Violet, the One Infinite Creator.

    We can use the Orange Ray to promote change in our lives. Surrounding ourselves or another with the Orange Ray will send the Vibration of Change.

    In 4th Density work, we use the Green Ray of Love to promote healing. To help with our Earth Mother's Transition into Fourth Density, take the Green Ray through the Heart Chakra, then send It deep beneath the Earth's surface. She needs all the help she can get to cleanse herself of the 3D fleas with chain saws and bulldozers destroying and polluting her once beautiful face.
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    (06-04-2011, 01:10 PM)vbaba Wrote: She needs all the help she can get to cleanse herself of the 3D fleas with chain saws and bulldozers destroying and polluting her once beautiful face.

    That is cooold.

    We are 'her' surface. Bulldozers, every part, are created by 'her', and thus are 'her.' The trees are 2D entities, made up of 'her' stuff, but are forever a part of her, no matter what state they are in. A recreational vehicle is a 1D creation made up entirely of Earth.

    In fact, it is the indecisiveness of not balancing disgust of human action with love of human action that makes 'Her' gurgle and rumble in a fiery, upset way. Much more so than a thousand bulldozers, whom she loves as part of herself, by the way.
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    06-05-2011, 03:15 AM
    I wish I remembered the source, Ra or Q'uo. They said something like, "being judgmental of polluters of the planet harms the planet more than their pollution does."
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    06-05-2011, 09:12 AM
    (05-23-2011, 08:35 PM)Oceania Wrote: i'm confused, we're in the yellow ray density.

    No, that is me:p
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    07-03-2011, 02:58 AM
    Vbaba, the term "orange ray of change" piqued my interest. Can you elaborate on that?

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    07-03-2011, 04:37 AM
    The world is still mostly under orange ray influence I believe but that is changing. People do not want to live in war, slavery and poverty. More and more want to live in peace, love, freedom toghether in a prosperous society. More and more are choosing love. Still not a majority but I believe that the threshold required for earth to change to 4d STO has already been met. Just as the quo guys say, I am confident that we will pass this.

    However, that doesnt mean that everyone will pass. Im not talking about any majority of the population. Just an increase. It´s in the air. Most people will unfortunetly retard the process and will need to be reborn in 3d again at some other place.

    So why is positive STO succeding ? I believe that is because there are many more people choosing STO over STS. The People between 6-50 % polarity are not making a choice. Thus they have no influence. Because to make a choice, u need to have honest possitive or extreme negative karma. Anything in between that is not a choice.

    love

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    07-03-2011, 12:29 PM
    (05-23-2011, 11:16 AM)unity100 Wrote: Yellow, green, harvest, all is ok. but, what will happen to orange conscious ?

    most of society on this planet is vibrating in orange consciousness. not even yellow.

    you get on a boat to cross to the other side of the bay, you close your eyes towards the sun. what you see is orange in color. boat moves, moves, approaches the middle of the bay, which is rather far from the city. the color starts to turn to green, and it becomes true color green. then you move closer to the other bay. green gets tainted, and starts to turn to yellow, and as you approach the other side of bay, it gets back to orange again.

    the city (and the entities in it) are vibrating in orange. in bodies which are designed for yellow.

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#13

    3d body is unable to withstand 4d in full.

    however, there is no 4d sphere yet, and wherever there is, it is just forming, and overlaps with 3d sphere so far. the 3d sphere, we speak of may be a misnomer, since 3d vibrations will be found in areas where the society vibrates in yellow spectrum.

    so then, in a city which mainly vibrates in orange, there wont be a problem of facing 4d in full, because very probably there wont be any 4d vibrations.

    if, one of the 3d entities come into the middle of the bay of course.

    ..........

    downline is,

    since most high 2d bodies are able to do 3d work (ra says), is it possible for entities who are living in an urban orange environment to remain alive into the transition in 4d ? all they need, is to not face any environment in which there are 4d vibrations.

    Living as a 3D being with an overly activated orange chakra isn't the same thing as being an actual 2D being. We are all facing more 4D vibrations whether we want to or not, it all seeps through to everyone no matter how much they try to hide from it, and once the transition is made in time/space that's it.

    And I don't know why you're focusing on cities specifically, I live in a city and have met lots of people who I think probably passed 50% STO and I've been exposed to alot of good things in a city that I wouldn't be able to find in a town. Towns and villages have their own problems too, people are more closed minded, gossip more, etc. Wherever you are has its pros and cons but I don't think it would be accurate to say that cities everywhere are less spiritually developed than less populated regions.

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    07-03-2011, 09:45 PM
    (07-03-2011, 12:29 PM)turtledude23 Wrote: Living as a 3D being with an overly activated orange chakra isn't the same thing as being an actual 2D being. We are all facing more 4D vibrations whether we want to or not, it all seeps through to everyone no matter how much they try to hide from it, and once the transition is made in time/space that's it.

    the situation is not a situation of an 3d being with an over-active orange ray chakra. the situation is one in which entities are blocking/clogging/holding their orange energies. there is a world of difference in between the two. in the first, the entity wouldnt refrain from spending that orange energy or doing things with it. it is an active and positive situation, albeit imbalanced and maybe eye-poking. the second is something which is unproductive, unhealthy and problematic.

    basically they are withholding orange energies, reducing the yellow energy because energy flow is clogged there.

    Quote:And I don't know why you're focusing on cities specifically, I live in a city and have met lots of people who I think probably passed 50% STO and I've been exposed to alot of good things in a city that I wouldn't be able to find in a town. Towns and villages have their own problems too, people are more closed minded, gossip more, etc. Wherever you are has its pros and cons but I don't think it would be accurate to say that cities everywhere are less spiritually developed than less populated regions.

    any given city will be lower in vibration than a pristine natural environment. i didnt specifically talk about towns and villages. these may or may not be higher than a city vibration depending on the environment, and the orientation and vibration strength of the individuals.

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