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    #31
    06-10-2011, 03:47 AM
    your dear companion certainly will tell you when it's time for him to go, have no doubt of that
    a close friend of mine was in a similar situation last week, her dear dog gave her two days of precious close time with her, knowing the end was near, and then let her know she wanted to depart
    it's so difficult saying goodbye though, thinking of you transiten

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    06-10-2011, 04:37 AM (This post was last modified: 06-10-2011, 05:53 AM by transiten.)
    (06-10-2011, 03:47 AM)Lorna Wrote: your dear companion certainly will tell you when it's time for him to go, have no doubt of that
    a close friend of mine was in a similar situation last week, her dear dog gave her two days of precious close time with her, knowing the end was near, and then let her know she wanted to depart
    it's so difficult saying goodbye though, thinking of you transiten

    Heart

    A stunning synchronicity was when the other day i went into a labyrinth and posed a question about the meaning of what i was doing that day and i tried an oracle technique from old Greece where after the question one closes one's ears and then goes to "the outskirts of town" and then the first thing you hear is some kind of answer.

    I went home and saw a book about animal communication i had looked into. I opened the book and there is the story of Prince Pasha PAZOO and Afghan dog born on aug 12 who left the earth 14.5 years old. He was born under the sign of Leo like my dog who i call PAZZO and will be 15 on aug 7.

    It was a beautiful and comforting story to read considering the situation i'm in.

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    #33
    06-10-2011, 04:40 AM
    Any time transiten!!

    I remember a few years ago, my dog that I grew up with - but who lived with my mum because I went off travelling etc - up at my mums place in the country, she got into an old rusty can that had some food left in it, got botulism and ended up dying a VERY painful death that I didn't know about until my mum called me crying and told me. This poor little dog had lived a harsh life - my brother tormented her (he would scream at her to the point where she would lay there and poo herself) and poisoned her once with horse medicine, and always just treated her very cruelly, I think because he was jealous that I loved her so much and she and I would do everything together when I was young. He was older than me so i always tried to protect her but i didn't have much power against him. Then she had an even harsher death, and I was SO distraught that I was bawling my eyes out for days and I couldn't stop, my heart just hurt so badly for her and all I could think about was her life and how she didn't even get to die with any dignity. But 3 days after her death she came to me in a lucid dream, and in it she was young and vibrant again, and she was ridiculously happy and wagging her little tail as she ran around me in circles (she was a fox terrier), and she let me know she was alright and that she was in a good place now. Then after that I was ok, and she never came to me again but it gave me peace to know she moved on.

    Just wanted to share some of myself again Smile - I do that alot haha
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    06-10-2011, 05:17 AM (This post was last modified: 06-10-2011, 05:19 AM by transiten.)
    (06-10-2011, 04:40 AM)Nyu Wrote: Any time transiten!!

    I remember a few years ago, my dog that I grew up with - but who lived with my mum because I went off travelling etc - up at my mums place in the country, she got into an old rusty can that had some food left in it, got botulism and ended up dying a VERY painful death that I didn't know about until my mum called me crying and told me. This poor little dog had lived a harsh life - my brother tormented her (he would scream at her to the point where she would lay there and poo herself) and poisoned her once with horse medicine, and always just treated her very cruelly, I think because he was jealous that I loved her so much and she and I would do everything together when I was young. He was older than me so i always tried to protect her but i didn't have much power against him. Then she had an even harsher death, and I was SO distraught that I was bawling my eyes out for days and I couldn't stop, my heart just hurt so badly for her and all I could think about was her life and how she didn't even get to die with any dignity. But 3 days after her death she came to me in a lucid dream, and in it she was young and vibrant again, and she was ridiculously happy and wagging her little tail as she ran around me in circles (she was a fox terrier), and she let me know she was alright and that she was in a good place now. Then after that I was ok, and she never came to me again but it gave me peace to know she moved on.

    Just wanted to share some of myself again Smile - I do that alot haha

    OMG, i can't imagine how i could have endured that from a familymember, evokes my own trauma of having been almost shut out from the family by my stepmother because of jealousy although she never hit me physically...

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    #35
    06-10-2011, 05:24 AM
    hugs to you both transiten and nyu.
    whatever people u have to deal with

    we love you !!

    norral Heart

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    #36
    06-10-2011, 05:28 AM (This post was last modified: 06-10-2011, 06:08 AM by transiten.)
    WHERE ARE YOU GUYS who were here before i joined in? And what's happening in your lives?

    PS I think my dog is reflecting the issue i have with "not belonging" which i think many of us have who take interest in matters discussed here on Bring4th. If you're not living the "normal" life pple think they are doing you're easily a target for projections.

    As you already know in the old times unmarried women living with animals having close connection to nature seeing "signs" were burned as witches DS.

    ...there are other ways of expression today...

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    #37
    06-10-2011, 06:39 AM
    (06-10-2011, 04:37 AM)transiten Wrote:
    (06-10-2011, 03:47 AM)Lorna Wrote: your dear companion certainly will tell you when it's time for him to go, have no doubt of that
    a close friend of mine was in a similar situation last week, her dear dog gave her two days of precious close time with her, knowing the end was near, and then let her know she wanted to depart
    it's so difficult saying goodbye though, thinking of you transiten

    Heart

    A stunning synchronicity was when the other day i went into a labyrinth and posed a question about the meaning of what i was doing that day and i tried an oracle technique from old Greece where after the question one closes one's ears and then goes to "the outskirts of town" and then the first thing you hear is some kind of answer.

    I went home and saw a book about animal communication i had looked into. I opened the book and there is the story of Prince Pasha PAZOO and Afghan dog born on aug 12 who left the earth 14.5 years old. He was born under the sign of Leo like my dog who i call PAZZO and will be 15 on aug 7.

    It was a beautiful and comforting story to read considering the situation i'm in.

    that's awesome. BigSmile

    what labyrinth?

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    06-10-2011, 07:04 AM (This post was last modified: 06-10-2011, 07:06 AM by transiten.)
    Oceania wrote:

    that's awesome, what labyrinth?

    A labyrinth in a park in Gothenburgh made of low bushes, just for fun of course where parents let their kids play hide and seek...

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    06-10-2011, 09:18 AM
    i love those, what is this labyrinth oracle debacle?

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    06-10-2011, 09:51 AM
    (06-10-2011, 09:18 AM)Oceania Wrote: i love those, what is this labyrinth oracle debacle?

    What do you mean Oceania? Language problems you know since i'm from Sweden...

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    #41
    06-10-2011, 11:11 AM
    i just wanted to know more about this oracle business. Tongue
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    06-10-2011, 12:51 PM
    (06-10-2011, 11:11 AM)Oceania Wrote: i just wanted to know more about this oracle business. Tongue

    Well it's one of many oracle techniques like I Ching, bibliomancy, tarot and astrology....
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    #43
    06-10-2011, 01:55 PM
    When someone contemplates "owning" a parrot, somebody usually advises them that the bird may outlive them, so it's a long-term commitment. Not very often is a person literally advised that a dog or cat will likely die before the person does, although this usually is understood.

    I advise a grieving spouse that marriages can be wonderfully good or horribly bad, so being miserable after a spouse's death is preferable to being happy. So be sad with the loss but remember all of the love and fun that you had, and send gratitude to the animal for being there with you.

    Heart
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    06-10-2011, 03:05 PM
    (06-10-2011, 01:55 PM)kycahi Wrote: When someone contemplates "owning" a parrot, somebody usually advises them that the bird may outlive them, so it's a long-term commitment. Not very often is a person literally advised that a dog or cat will likely die before the person does, although this usually is understood.

    I advise a grieving spouse that marriages can be wonderfully good or horribly bad, so being miserable after a spouse's death is preferable to being happy. So be sad with the loss but remember all of the love and fun that you had, and send gratitude to the animal for being there with you.

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    So True-Thankyou
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    06-10-2011, 04:08 PM
    we don't own animals except in a way one owns a child, as in keeps them in after dark for their own good. Tongue
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    06-10-2011, 04:37 PM
    Spoiled Americans with your "INdoors"
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    06-11-2011, 07:50 AM
    INdoors rocks!
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    06-11-2011, 08:51 AM
    booo Wink

    Indoors is just a walled off outdoors. A box of physical proportions. Your own private holodeck filled with your sacred subjectivity. Tongue
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    06-11-2011, 01:51 PM
    indeed! Tongue
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    06-13-2011, 08:47 AM (This post was last modified: 06-13-2011, 08:49 AM by transiten.)
    Hi folks!

    Just want to sum up what has happened in connection with my dog. We made peace the dogfeeding neighbour and i without mentioning anything about the "Event" Wink It also showed i have great support from other neighbours who have seen me and my dog for 10 years.

    A medium once said that my dog is acting like a "guide" and that is so true! Through him a lot of childhood issues emerge between my father and me and other pple and this makes me able to express my needs and put healthy boundairies and also let go of my feeling of being "persecuted" and "outcast". Maybe Pajazzo and i still has some work to do and that's why he is hanging on and i don't call for the vet....

    He actually helps me "open up" and let go of my fear in social interactions that i'm good at hiding since am good at "socializing" but which often goes either too far and then i draw back in seclusion.

    Balance, balance...Me and my dog are leaving together, maybe he will come back with me and if not i have prepared a grave for him in the countryside on the eastcoast with a tombstone that actually looks like a dog.
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    08-16-2011, 11:20 AM
    (06-13-2011, 08:47 AM)transiten Wrote: Just want to sum up what has happened in connection with my dog. We made peace the dogfeeding neighbour and i without mentioning anything about the "Event" Wink It also showed i have great support from other neighbours who have seen me and my dog for 10 years.

    Hi transiten,

    Glad to hear everything turned out well!

    The only additional perspective I would offer is that when conflicts arise, it offers us an opportunity to see where we have failed to establish an appropriate boundary with others. When we feel encroached upon by another's actions, it is quite natural to feel anger. However, acting or speaking from that state of anger often backfires as others tend to respond to the emotional content of a communication, rather than the actual words of the message. This can result in additional delays in resolving the issue, as the negative emotions need to be dealt with before real communication can take place.

    While there is nothing "wrong" with feeling negative emotion, it can be helpful to realize that a negative emotional state can lead to impulsiveness and miscommunication. When the body is in such a state, it is difficult to see what the highest course of action would be. The brain has a hard time registering options outside of what it perceives in the negative emotional state, and has a tendency to think there is only one way to handle the situation.

    For example, you could have given your neighbor the benefit of the doubt and assumed that they either didn't know they were breaking the rules, or genuinely didn't understand how breaking the rules could cause so much distress to others. They were probably just trying to let their dog run around and have some freedom... maybe they live in a small home or apartment with no yard? Who knows? Approaching them as a friend... "Hey buddy, I'm not sure if you knew but there are certain rules around here regarding dogs on leashes and I would hate to see you get in trouble!" or "Hey friend, your dog looks like a real lover! Just wanted to let you know that my dog sometimes has issues with pit bulls due to a past experience. It really upsets him/her when one comes around, and I would hate to see our dogs get in a fight."

    Again, I am not saying that your words or actions were in any way wrong. Just pointing out that anger often times has much more to do with the self than the other, and can limit our ability to communicate effectively. When I find myself in such a state, I wait for it to pass and then meditate upon the highest way to resolve the conflict. More often than not, after some time has passed I see other options that I was blinded to while feeling so angry.

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    09-08-2011, 06:06 PM (This post was last modified: 09-08-2011, 06:08 PM by transiten.)
    Hello Tenet!

    Thanks for the input! I actually started out just like that, but they kept letting the dog loose and then I lost my temper...anyway, i came home yesterday after having spent almost 3 months with my father and my dog in the countryside and a coincidence is that i had to put my beloved dog to rest on august 17, just the day after your post....i miss him tremendously but he was 15 and his health deteriorated quickly. This tuesday i visited a medium who put me in contact with him, he even described exactly what happened the last minutes of his life, some of what was traumatic for me but no problem for him.

    I'm so tired i've got to go to sleep. Goodnight from transiten
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    09-08-2011, 06:34 PM
    (05-24-2011, 12:07 AM)turtledude23 Wrote: Does anyone else have trouble with social interaction? Sometimes I feel like my friends don't really want me there and are hanging out with me out of a feeling of obligation but won't tell me what they really think of me.
    Paranoia. Why don't you ask/tell them about it?

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    09-08-2011, 08:05 PM
    sorry about your dog. *hugs*
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    09-09-2011, 04:27 AM
    Sorry about your dog, transiten!!! I know how much you loved that little being! *love*love*love* to you!!! Heart
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    09-09-2011, 07:38 AM (This post was last modified: 09-09-2011, 03:14 PM by transiten.)
    Thankyou Oceania and Ankh and others for your concern Heart

    Funny sync: there was a hughe pic of a beach beneath the Ocean - (ia) Wink in the room where my mediumistic friend channeled my dog, and he told that i had been on the beach the day before watching footprints from a dog, a deer and myself and a long bridge that was repaired that day. Also dad and i were talking about "ankare" ("Ankh") Wink in the car on our way to the medium. He also showed the sign of cancer and problems with breathing..it was his former owner who is a cancer and has caught cool...and lots of other info...

    transiten


    fyi: Ankare means anchor in swedish
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    09-09-2011, 10:43 AM
    transiten, I'm so sorry you had to let your beloved dog go. I had a similar experience two years ago. My Sandman, too, was a guide to me when he was here. Now he visits me during meditations and sometimes in the back seat of my car, where he loved to ride.
    Hugs to you!
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    09-09-2011, 03:17 PM
    (09-09-2011, 10:43 AM)Ruth Wrote: transiten, I'm so sorry you had to let your beloved dog go. I had a similar experience two years ago. My Sandman, too, was a guide to me when he was here. Now he visits me during meditations and sometimes in the back seat of my car, where he loved to ride.
    Hugs to you!


    Hi Ruth!

    Gives me a good feeling that others confirm that we can contact our loved ones in another dimension!

    Heart
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    09-09-2011, 05:06 PM
    i believe pets return to us. in spirit and in reincarnation.
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