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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters A Resignation?

    Thread: A Resignation?


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    #91
    06-15-2011, 04:06 PM
    (06-15-2011, 06:59 AM)unity100 Wrote: or, it just means that people who are refraining from sharing their own subjective experiences, are not firm in those yet, and not ready to stand behind them or accept questions/inquiries about them.

    What about these confused newbies, who come here, all fresh, green and optimistic, with expectations of being understood and loved, of being fit in some place, so they share... Because they are not "wise" enough to refraine from sharing their own subjective experiences, and are not firm enough yet, so they dare to speak up, but if they do not stand behind every word they say and accept any questions about them - we sure learn them that "wisdom".

    (06-15-2011, 01:07 PM)kia Wrote: Can someone tell me where is the story she posted first in the wander stories forum? I see its been moved into another thread but I don´t see it. Did she remove it? I´ve read stories there from others that have left.

    The thread got moved to "Life on planet Earth", but vbaba deleted most of her posts.
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    06-15-2011, 04:21 PM
    (06-15-2011, 03:43 PM)111 Wrote:
    (06-15-2011, 03:20 PM)unity100 Wrote: i dont think i have been offensive or aggressive at all. i was totally socially polite. the other questioners i saw, behaved in the same manner too.
    I just feel when questions weren't answered she was bombarded. And I also might be a little distressed because I had some personal questions I felt I needed to ask Vbaba privatly and she was driven away before she ever answered. So my feelings are of course a little personal. And unity I never accused you of being the one to drive her off. Like I said, I feel your personal references to the LOO to be very enlightning. I'm just suggesting as a forum, the next time (and I'm sure it will happen again) that this situation comes about, keep in mind that we are all one and seeking the same answers. There is no true understanding or "pure truth" in this density. So let's not take everything soo serious!! Much love Unity!! I'm truly sorry if I came on too strong with this. Please forgive me Smile

    i don't see how asking question via PM is any less questioning or offensive than publicly? all of us here wanted to ask questions, you included. what makes your approach better than ours? noone was driven away, vbaba chose to leave. big difference.

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    #93
    06-15-2011, 04:30 PM
    (06-15-2011, 04:21 PM)Oceania Wrote:
    (06-15-2011, 03:43 PM)111 Wrote:
    (06-15-2011, 03:20 PM)unity100 Wrote: i dont think i have been offensive or aggressive at all. i was totally socially polite. the other questioners i saw, behaved in the same manner too.
    I just feel when questions weren't answered she was bombarded. And I also might be a little distressed because I had some personal questions I felt I needed to ask Vbaba privatly and she was driven away before she ever answered. So my feelings are of course a little personal. And unity I never accused you of being the one to drive her off. Like I said, I feel your personal references to the LOO to be very enlightning. I'm just suggesting as a forum, the next time (and I'm sure it will happen again) that this situation comes about, keep in mind that we are all one and seeking the same answers. There is no true understanding or "pure truth" in this density. So let's not take everything soo serious!! Much love Unity!! I'm truly sorry if I came on too strong with this. Please forgive me Smile

    Wow, don't know where you got the idea that I think my "approach" is better in any way. :/ That is definitly not what I was saying. In fact I was admitting in context that my opinion was probably a little personal and I asked unity and all who felt offended by my statements for forgivness:/ Sorry Oceania

    i don't see how asking question via PM is any less questioning or offensive than publicly? all of us here wanted to ask questions, you included. what makes your approach better than ours? noone was driven away, vbaba chose to leave. big difference.

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    #94
    06-15-2011, 04:32 PM
    (06-15-2011, 04:21 PM)Oceania Wrote: what makes your approach better than ours?

    "Yours"? "Ours"? Seriously?

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    06-15-2011, 04:43 PM
    We have moderators. Did one try to contact Ab to clear things up? Weeks ago a moderator asked the community about members dropping from view and wondered if we should do something to prevent it. I don't think we came up with much. :-/

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    3DMonkey

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    06-15-2011, 04:57 PM
    Vbaba didn't get what she wanted here. Or, maybe she got exactly what she wanted.

    We don't know what she wants.


    Does anybody wanna know what I want? Wink (don't answer that)

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    06-15-2011, 05:10 PM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2011, 05:11 PM by Oceania.)
    (06-15-2011, 04:32 PM)Ankh Wrote:
    (06-15-2011, 04:21 PM)Oceania Wrote: what makes your approach better than ours?

    "Yours"? "Ours"? Seriously?

    yes ours who asked puclicly. why is everyone taking offense here? i mean no disrespect and meant none towards vbaba yet i feel like i'm being judged here, as is unity and anyone who asked a simple question.

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    #98
    06-15-2011, 05:23 PM
    (06-15-2011, 05:10 PM)Oceania Wrote:
    (06-15-2011, 04:32 PM)Ankh Wrote:
    (06-15-2011, 04:21 PM)Oceania Wrote: what makes your approach better than ours?

    "Yours"? "Ours"? Seriously?

    yes ours who asked puclicly. why is everyone taking offense here? i mean no disrespect and meant none towards vbaba yet i feel like i'm being judged here, as is unity and anyone who asked a simple question.

    No words have been directed at you, or unity or anyone for that matter. I posted my opinion. Those who felt inclined responded and defended their personal conversations with Vbaba. If you feel judged that's upon your own conscious.

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    #99
    06-15-2011, 05:27 PM
    ditto to the vbaba mess, vbaba chose to feel something and thus left. i don't see why we're still arguing about who's to blame when it was vbaba's freewill choice to leave and noone really forced them.

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    3DMonkey

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    06-15-2011, 05:32 PM
    If vbaba is crying in a sewer somewhere, we're just standing around arguing about why.

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    #101
    06-15-2011, 05:34 PM
    (06-15-2011, 05:23 PM)111 Wrote: If you feel judged that's upon your own conscious.

    To be rather direct, does this statement not apply to vbaba as well?
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    06-15-2011, 05:37 PM
    (06-15-2011, 05:34 PM)abridgetoofar Wrote:
    (06-15-2011, 05:23 PM)111 Wrote: If you feel judged that's upon your own conscious.

    To be rather direct, does this statement not apply to vbaba as well?

    I agree 100% That statment was in direct context to oceanias statement. And it is true in both respects
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    06-15-2011, 05:40 PM
    Do you feel a bit bombarded right now, 111?

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    #104
    06-15-2011, 05:41 PM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2011, 05:42 PM by Monica.)
    I'm wondering if everyone is aware that, when a member posts in Wanderer Stories, they have the option of either allowing discussion about their story, or locking the thread? If they choose to lock the thread, they can just post the story without any discussion whatsoever.

    Wanderer Stories > ***Please Read Before Posting!!***

    Just thought I'd mention that. Gary works so hard on those guidelines, ya know.
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    #105
    06-15-2011, 05:47 PM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2011, 05:48 PM by Eddie.)
    To all:
    It is hard to build a community of disembodied voices. On this board, as well-intentioned as it is, we are, to each other, only abstractions.

    I urge all of you to attend Homecoming. You may think it an inconvenience, or even an impossibility, but please do it anyway. The bonds we forge there are unbreakable.

    There are roots planted deep into my Heart, from Carla and Jim and Ahktu and Bring4thGLB and Bring4thSteve and Tiffani and so many others....roots that will only grow and strengthen. I know that I sound like the proverbial "broken record" here, perhaps you find my exhortations tedious, but I speak to you in all sincerety.

    PLEASE come.
    (06-15-2011, 05:41 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I'm wondering if everyone is aware that, when a member posts in Wanderer Stories, they have the option of either allowing discussion about their story, or locking the thread? If they choose to lock the thread, they can just post the story without any discussion whatsoever.

    Wanderer Stories > ***Please Read Before Posting!!***

    Just thought I'd mention that. Gary works so hard on those guidelines, ya know.

    Are you coming to Homecoming this year, Monica? I'm dying to meet you.

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    06-15-2011, 05:48 PM
    (06-15-2011, 05:41 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I'm wondering if everyone is aware that, when a member posts in Wanderer Stories, they have the option of either allowing discussion about their story, or locking the thread? If they choose to lock the thread, they can just post the story without any discussion whatsoever.

    Wanderer Stories > ***Please Read Before Posting!!***

    Just thought I'd mention that. Gary works so hard on those guidelines, ya know.

    Thank you monica, I wasn't aware of this. And it makes sense that you would have that in place. Just not sure a lot of eager wnaderes new to the forum are quite sure what their getting into in clicking that's its okay for discussion. And No, I don't feel bombaeded. Thanks for asking Smile

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    #107
    06-15-2011, 05:49 PM
    maybe vbaba can come as well and we can pay for the laundry bill as an olive branch.

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    06-15-2011, 05:49 PM
    I'm scared. But we're also having a baby too close to the date.
    I didn't think you did feel bombarded, but looking in, it kind of appears that way.

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    06-15-2011, 05:51 PM
    (06-15-2011, 05:49 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I'm scared. But we're also having a baby too close to the date.

    You are scared? Of what?

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    06-15-2011, 05:52 PM
    People.

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    06-15-2011, 05:54 PM
    (06-15-2011, 05:52 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: People.

    Well, speaking as a representative of People, I extend you the heartiest invitation and welcome. We People would love to meet you!Heart

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    06-15-2011, 05:57 PM
    "let's go around the circle and introduce ourselves" ....next.... (panic. Fart. Vomit. Run)

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    06-15-2011, 05:59 PM
    (06-15-2011, 05:57 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: "let's go around the circle and introduce ourselves" ....next.... (panic. Fart. Vomit. Run)
    You will be enveloped by arms of love in that circle. Please trust me.

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    06-15-2011, 05:59 PM
    yeah i hate group things, maybe some wine would help the nerves?

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    06-15-2011, 06:01 PM
    LMAO. Is Mr Drunk Monkey invited? He's a hoot.

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    06-15-2011, 06:01 PM
    (06-15-2011, 05:59 PM)Oceania Wrote: yeah i hate group things, maybe some wine would help the nerves?
    Well that could probably be arranged too.

    I'm planning on bringing bushels of fresh vegetables from my garden to Homecoming. Good stuff to eat, and on Saturday evening last Homecoming, we went out to Avalon for a cookout, and I brought several bottles of very good wine. It was quite pleasant. New friendships were made, and old ones were strengthened.

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    06-15-2011, 06:12 PM
    Eddie, it would be AMAZING to have fellowship with fellow wanderers and brothers in the LOO!! I have seen a lot posted about homecoming. But I haven't seen anywhere with a location time or date!! Please advise!! Smile

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    06-15-2011, 06:30 PM (This post was last modified: 06-15-2011, 06:32 PM by Eddie.)
    (06-15-2011, 06:12 PM)111 Wrote: Eddie, it would be AMAZING to have fellowship with fellow wanderers and brothers in the LOO!! I have seen a lot posted about homecoming. But I haven't seen anywhere with a location time or date!! Please advise!! Smile
    Here's the blurb from the latest LLResearch newsletter:

    Stare at your planners in anticipation no more. The time has come that L/L Research throws a dart at the calendar and selects the weekend of August 26 – 28, 2011, to host the annual premier green carpet Homecoming event!

    Each year we gather to participate in a curriculum of spiritual study. More fundamentally, however, we gather to open ourselves to a group dynamic of shared personal and universal energy. Reviews of Homecoming are always rave, with attendees amazed by the ease of relating and the sense of immediate kinship/“home” felt among the participants who arrive from all over the country, and occasionally, world.

    In the past we’ve used two basic different modalities, the symposium and the study topic. In the former, attendees were allotted a block of time to share their thoughts, feelings, essays, and experiences on any spiritually oriented subject close to their heart. In the latter, we selected a spiritual study topic which the circle as a whole spent the weekend exploring.

    This year, we will make a synthesis of the symposium and the study topic in order to really dig down into a topic through the contribution of all in the circle. Each attendee will be asked to respond to a pre‐chosen topic. This year our topic will be Discernment.

    The guiding questions include: “What role does discernment play in your personal seeking and/or spiritual evolution in general? Do you have any experiences you would like to share regarding discernment in your life? Times when discernment was the crucial factor, or times when discernment was lacking? What has discernment taught you? Do you believe in your own discernment? How does discernment, what we could call a blue‐ray activity, relate to green‐ray love?”

    Attendees will be asked to respond to these questions, creatively riffing on them in any way or direction they see fit, whether by reading an essay aloud, sharing a song, or producing a laser light show. If you want to be an exhibitionist and give the circle a bit of Mick Jagger, or would prefer a more quiet, considerate approached, there is no wrong answer, and your contribution will not be graded or rated, because you are who you are, and this is what we are interested in – you and your self‐expression. The circle will ask questions and provide feedback to each attendee as we dig down
    deeper into discernment in theory and practice.

    Attendees may opt out of offering a response to the questions, but while you are not legally bound to participate, we strongly encourage doing so as we all love hearing from everyone in the circle of equals. Albeit composed of human beings, the circle is non‐judgmental and the environment totally supportive. We gather in the back portion of the small sacred grounds on which L/L Research rests.

    Green nature surrounds us as we relax into the easy and welcoming atmosphere of radiant love. We may also spend Saturday evening of the weekend down on L/L’s aspiring bio‐dynamic farm, Avalon. This is to‐be‐announced.


    Message from Gary ("Bring4thGLB") concerning registration and housing:

    Sometime between now and the event, you’ll need to pay tuition through our online store at this page:

    http://store.bring4th.org/product_info.p...ucts_id=59. (We haven’t changed the graphic yet from 2010 to 2011.)

    If you should cancel anytime between now and the event for any reason, no worries, you will be refunded the full amount.


    As to lodging, I always (as you know) recommend the Microtel to everyone visiting L/L, because:

    a) It’s just a few miles down the road

    b) Rates are the most reasonable in the area at around $50/night

    c) It is located in a well maintained, slightly upscale business zone

    d) Most who attend the Homecoming lodge there, so people who fly in and don’t have a car can hitch rides to and from the event, and there are also carpooling opportunities for drivers

    Microtel Inn


    1221 Kentucky Mills Dr
    Louisville, KY 40299
    (502) 266-6590

    If you’d like to search for other hotels, just run a Google search for “hotels near 40223”, or ask me for a list. There are a lot in the area.

    Whether you choose the Microtel or another, I’ll need to know where you’ll be lodging for the weekend.

    Your email will be put on an email list to receive updates as we approach the event, including the curriculum we’ll create in the near future.

    Lots of love,
    Gary


    Please come!

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    #119
    06-15-2011, 07:06 PM
    Thanks Eddies!! Lousiville is real close to home for me (Nashville TN) Tho I'm in New Mexico for the time being. If I can swing a trip home forhomecoming that would be amazing!! I would love to meet the L/L team. Their work and dedication has inspired me Smile If its in the cards ill see ya there!!

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    06-15-2011, 07:12 PM
    (06-15-2011, 07:06 PM)111 Wrote: Thanks Eddies!! Lousiville is real close to home for me (Nashville TN) Tho I'm in New Mexico for the time being. If I can swing a trip home forhomecoming that would be amazing!! I would love to meet the L/L team. Their work and dedication has inspired me Smile If its in the cards ill see ya there!!

    Great! Right up I-65 from Nashville.Smile

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