Fake CNN Newscast

[turtledude23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg

Guy in front of a blue screen pretending to be in Saudi Arabia, from 1991. Technology has gotten much better since then, I wonder how often this happens now?

[Bring4th_Austin]

Have you ever seen the movie Wag the Dog? Really good movie, about a president using the news media to fabricate an entire war. These kinds of things show you what the news media can get away with, and make you wonder how far they've really gone...

[Raman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg

Guy in front of a blue screen pretending to be in Saudi Arabia, from 1991. Technology has gotten much better since then, I wonder how often this happens now?

That is really disgusting. What a lack of respect!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg

Guy in front of a blue screen pretending to be in Saudi Arabia, from 1991. Technology has gotten much better since then, I wonder how often this happens now?

That is really disgusting. What a lack of respect!

It seems now thay can make a dead person appear on tv talking like he/she is still alive.

I don't remember the sources but it seems it was documented somehow.

[turtledude23]

Have you ever seen the movie Wag the Dog? Really good movie, about a president using the news media to fabricate an entire war. These kinds of things show you what the news media can get away with, and make you wonder how far they've really gone...

I have seen Wag the Dog. I'm studying journalism and hope to expose as many conspiracies and little known important facts as possible once I work in the media. From what I've learned so far there isn't a conspiracy of silence and censorship in Canadian media like I suspected earlier. U.S. media is a lost cause though. I'd recommend therealnews.com, Al Jazeera, and RT.

[Oceania]

i can make a hamster talk.

[Daydreamin]

That's Charles Jaco who now works in St. Louis, MO where I live and up until a few months ago he had a Liberal radio show that was so one sided it was pathetic. He's a hack at best and I'm being nice when saying that. What's alarming is the fact that he was busted w/ CNN and yet still has a job in the media w/ one of the local tv stations?

I always tell people I encounter that IMO when the media lied to the world about FDR being in a wheelchair for 'our better good' that was when our elders should have rejected the news. I'm 33 years old and older folks know what I am referring to. It's really no different IMO then the media covering up obama's birth certificate.

My whole life I never could understand why the media refuses to report positive stories and not to long ago I figured it out.


Turtledude here's a link that you may or may not know about it...

http://www.mrc.org/public/default.aspx

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Have you ever seen the movie Wag the Dog? Really good movie, about a president using the news media to fabricate an entire war. These kinds of things show you what the news media can get away with, and make you wonder how far they've really gone...

I have seen Wag the Dog. I'm studying journalism and hope to expose as many conspiracies and little known important facts as possible once I work in the media. From what I've learned so far there isn't a conspiracy of silence and censorship in Canadian media like I suspected earlier. U.S. media is a lost cause though. I'd recommend therealnews.com, Al Jazeera, and RT.

Turtledude......I was checking out the real news site it appears to be AWFULLY biased. And fyi, I've been around the political circle twice now and have come to the conclusion both sides are the same in the end. The only difference is the way the media paints the picture of the 'news.'

[unity100]

I always tell people I encounter that IMO when the media lied to the world about FDR being in a wheelchair for 'our better good' that was when our elders should have rejected the news. I'm 33 years old and older folks know what I am referring to. It's really no different IMO then the media covering up obama's birth certificate.

maybe you shouldnt open your mind that much to right-wing conspiracy theories.

the spiritual information source, ra material - the forum of which you are posting this, mentions that fdr has programmed disability as a measure in his life in case he got too much into the competitiveness facet of politics.

he got into it too much, and therefore disability kicked in.

therefore - according to the source we are studying, noone was 'lying' about fdr being in a wheelchair.

he was in a wheelchair.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#3

[Monica]

I always tell people I encounter that IMO when the media lied to the world about FDR being in a wheelchair for 'our better good'

therefore - according to the source we are studying, noone was 'lying' about fdr being in a wheelchair.

he was in a wheelchair.

What Daydreamin is referring to, is that the US govt. lied to the American people, by hiding FDR's disability. The American people didn't know until many years later, that FDR was in a wheelchair.

American children are taught in school that the US govt. lied to the public, because they thought that if the American people knew FDR was in a wheelchair, they wouldn't respect him.

So his disability was covered up.

[seejay21]

If you have ever been the subject of a news story, or been privy of the truth behind the story you'd know the media never gets the story right. The rule "believe nothing that you read and only half of what you see"

[kycahi]

It wasn't that covered up, they just agreed not to mention it nor take photographs. Countless American people sent in small donations to pay for a swimming pool in the white house because swimming was his only form of real exercise. It stayed until Richard Nixon had it drained and removed for another use. That's when I heard talk about it.

Old reporters talked about seeing, during WW II, FDR "carried almost like a sack of potatoes" and flopped down into a chair. Then other world leaders would sit in chairs for the group photo. Before FDR, the photos were always of leaders standing.

It was a different era then; now photographers work hard to take an unflattering photo of a leader because it can mean huge bucks.

[3DMonkey]

Wow.

Now, THIS is the true negative side of television.

[turtledude23]

That's Charles Jaco who now works in St. Louis, MO where I live and up until a few months ago he had a Liberal radio show that was so one sided it was pathetic. He's a hack at best and I'm being nice when saying that. What's alarming is the fact that he was busted w/ CNN and yet still has a job in the media w/ one of the local tv stations?

I always tell people I encounter that IMO when the media lied to the world about FDR being in a wheelchair for 'our better good' that was when our elders should have rejected the news. I'm 33 years old and older folks know what I am referring to. It's really no different IMO then the media covering up obama's birth certificate.

My whole life I never could understand why the media refuses to report positive stories and not to long ago I figured it out.


Turtledude here's a link that you may or may not know about it...

http://www.mrc.org/public/default.aspx

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Have you ever seen the movie Wag the Dog? Really good movie, about a president using the news media to fabricate an entire war. These kinds of things show you what the news media can get away with, and make you wonder how far they've really gone...

I have seen Wag the Dog. I'm studying journalism and hope to expose as many conspiracies and little known important facts as possible once I work in the media. From what I've learned so far there isn't a conspiracy of silence and censorship in Canadian media like I suspected earlier. U.S. media is a lost cause though. I'd recommend therealnews.com, Al Jazeera, and RT.

Turtledude......I was checking out the real news site it appears to be AWFULLY biased. And fyi, I've been around the political circle twice now and have come to the conclusion both sides are the same in the end. The only difference is the way the media paints the picture of the 'news.'

I'm disappointed how most criticism of the US media by conservatives is that its too liberal and bad mouths Palin when its quite obvious that the bigger problem is that whether its Fox or MSNBC they almost never question what the government says, seldom dig deep into any story, and spend more time covering celebrities than the financial, human, and diplomatic costs of all the wars the US is running. The media being more favourable to democrats and less favourable to republicans (assuming that's true) is of so little significance when you consider that the US media has let the US government get away with massive infringement of civil liberties (e.g. the patriot act), super expensive wars few people support, and bailing out scum bags instead of sending them to prison. The impotency in US media has little to do with editorial bias and everything to do with plain old corruption, greed, fear and complacency.

The Real News may be kind of left wing but it covers news more in depth than most mainstream media and mentions things the MSM won't. For instance during the Wisconsin austerity stuff The Real News mentioned the reduction of estate taxes (e.g. taxes for super rich people) being reduced and eliminated a few years ago and that the revenue from keeping those taxes in place would bring in way more money than cutting benefits to public workers. The link you gave me seems way more biased than The Real News, TRN is subtle in its left-wing slantbut still covers issues Im sure people of all political stripes would like to see covered, where as the headlines I read on that link you gave me seemed quite blatant in their bias and looks like more of a celebrity gossip outlet than a media watchdog.

[unity100]

the real news is a branch of a russian company in usa. therefore, it is easier for it to question govt. and publish dangerous stuff.

[turtledude23]

the real news is a branch of a russian company in usa. therefore, it is easier for it to question govt. and publish dangerous stuff.

I think you're thinking of RT (Russia Today) which is basically a propaganda outlet against the U.S., none the less most of its stories are true. The Real News was created by a Canadian (who I met in person once) 4 years ago and is funded entirely by user donations.

[Daydreamin]

That's Charles Jaco who now works in St. Louis, MO where I live and up until a few months ago he had a Liberal radio show that was so one sided it was pathetic. He's a hack at best and I'm being nice when saying that. What's alarming is the fact that he was busted w/ CNN and yet still has a job in the media w/ one of the local tv stations?

I always tell people I encounter that IMO when the media lied to the world about FDR being in a wheelchair for 'our better good' that was when our elders should have rejected the news. I'm 33 years old and older folks know what I am referring to. It's really no different IMO then the media covering up obama's birth certificate.

My whole life I never could understand why the media refuses to report positive stories and not to long ago I figured it out.


Turtledude here's a link that you may or may not know about it...

http://www.mrc.org/public/default.aspx

---

Have you ever seen the movie Wag the Dog? Really good movie, about a president using the news media to fabricate an entire war. These kinds of things show you what the news media can get away with, and make you wonder how far they've really gone...

I have seen Wag the Dog. I'm studying journalism and hope to expose as many conspiracies and little known important facts as possible once I work in the media. From what I've learned so far there isn't a conspiracy of silence and censorship in Canadian media like I suspected earlier. U.S. media is a lost cause though. I'd recommend therealnews.com, Al Jazeera, and RT.

Turtledude......I was checking out the real news site it appears to be AWFULLY biased. And fyi, I've been around the political circle twice now and have come to the conclusion both sides are the same in the end. The only difference is the way the media paints the picture of the 'news.'

I'm disappointed how most criticism of the US media by conservatives is that its too liberal and bad mouths Palin when its quite obvious that the bigger problem is that whether its Fox or MSNBC they almost never question what the government says, seldom dig deep into any story, and spend more time covering celebrities than the financial, human, and diplomatic costs of all the wars the US is running. The media being more favourable to democrats and less favourable to republicans (assuming that's true) is of so little significance when you consider that the US media has let the US government get away with massive infringement of civil liberties (e.g. the patriot act), super expensive wars few people support, and bailing out scum bags instead of sending them to prison. The impotency in US media has little to do with editorial bias and everything to do with plain old corruption, greed, fear and complacency.

The Real News may be kind of left wing but it covers news more in depth than most mainstream media and mentions things the MSM won't. For instance during the Wisconsin austerity stuff The Real News mentioned the reduction of estate taxes (e.g. taxes for super rich people) being reduced and eliminated a few years ago and that the revenue from keeping those taxes in place would bring in way more money than cutting benefits to public workers. The link you gave me seems way more biased than The Real News, TRN is subtle in its left-wing slantbut still covers issues Im sure people of all political stripes would like to see covered, where as the headlines I read on that link you gave me seemed quite blatant in their bias and looks like more of a celebrity gossip outlet than a media watchdog.

That link to the media research center isn't left or right. They just report how the news has been portrayed and what not. What you've seen if you've gone to the link is that the media IS an arm for the left and it's hard to argue. If the media leaned to the right then you'd probably think that site was an arm for the right.

I assure you if you look into that site there's PLENTY for you to find.


And for the record I am 33 years old w/ a major in Finance and minor in Poly Sci. I grew up a Republican and when I graduated from college I was a Liberal. Then I was a free thinker and came back to to be a Republican only to realize in the last 6 months that both parties are the same and in the end it's us the people vs. them. Forget about party affiliation, race, age, sex, etc. and you'll see what I mean.

Example....we are currently in as many or more wars around the world as when Bush was in office but according to the media you'd never know that? The media is an arm for the elites and IMO there is no doubt about it.

Another example of the media is the way they are attacking Michelle Bachman. My goodness! She has quite a resume and their merely trying to cut her off at the knees.


BTW, I no longer attach myself to a party and after the last election no longer believe that my vote even matters. If you'd of known me a year ago you'd understand how far I've come to realize that politics is another distraction to keep us off our path IMO. Realize I came extremely close to throwing my hat in the political ring recently but thank God I did not. I more or less chose my wife and family over helping out my constituent's.

Turtle, with that site all I was trying to do was give you another outlet for your research. Like the Ra material you may to what you please with it.


Good luck w/ your project!


Chris

[Monica]

What you've seen if you've gone to the link is that the media IS an arm for the left and it's hard to argue.

Well I really don't want to argue, but I'd have to respectfully but strongly disagree on that. No Democrat would have gotten away with all the stuff Bush, McCain and Palin have pulled. The media would have torn them to shreds.

No Democrat with the mentality of any of those could ever have gotten elected. It's almost as if they wanted to see how much they could get away with, by putting Bush in office and then seeing if the American people would fall for it again, with Palin.

Example....we are currently in as many or more wars around the world as when Bush was in office but according to the media you'd never know that?

Very true. Although, what has allowed those wars was Bush establishing a precedent, with his illegal wars. The whole false flag operation was to set it up so that the elite could start more wars. Remember, Ra tells us the STS beings feed on fear. What better way to generate more food for them, than to start more wars? It's naive to think it's about oil.

I don't believe Obama is a bad person. I really believe he had good intentions. But he is trapped. They got him. Thus the pattern continues.(The only difference between him and Bush is that Obama is smart enough to know what's happening, and, I speculate, he has a conscience, so it bothers him greatly. Pure speculation on my part.)

The media is an arm for the elites and IMO there is no doubt about it.

I agree on that point.

By the way, I no longer attach myself to a party and after the last election no longer believe that my vote even matters. If you'd of known me a year ago you'd understand how far I've come to realize that politics is another distraction to keep us off our path IMO. Realize I came extremely close to throwing my hat in the political ring recently but thank God I did not. I more or less chose my wife and family over helping out my constituent's.

Glad to hear you saw the light! I got really disillusioned after seeing how they censored Ron Paul. I worked very hard on that campaign, and the media just blatantly censored him. I saw proof of this. Not to mention the voting fraud putting Bush in the white house fraudulently, both times.

I still have hope that the system will change, as people change. So I will still vote. But I have no expectations or illusions that my vote will count. And I will work to elect Ron Paul again. But I won't be disillusioned this time, if there is a repeat of what happened last time. It's 2011. The negative elite can't continue, with the increased vibrations. Thus I have hope.

[Daydreamin]

What you've seen if you've gone to the link is that the media IS an arm for the left and it's hard to argue.

Well I really don't want to argue, but I'd have to respectfully but strongly disagree on that. No Democrat would have gotten away with all the stuff Bush, McCain and Palin have pulled. The media would have torn them to shreds.

No Democrat with the mentality of any of those could ever have gotten elected. It's almost as if they wanted to see how much they could get away with, by putting Bush in office and then seeing if the American people would fall for it again, with Palin.

Example....we are currently in as many or more wars around the world as when Bush was in office but according to the media you'd never know that?

Very true. Although, what has allowed those wars was Bush establishing a precedent, with his illegal wars. The whole false flag operation was to set it up so that the elite could start more wars. Remember, Ra tells us the STS beings feed on fear. What better way to generate more food for them, than to start more wars? It's naive to think it's about oil.

I don't believe Obama is a bad person. I really believe he had good intentions. But he is trapped. They got him. Thus the pattern continues.(The only difference between him and Bush is that Obama is smart enough to know what's happening, and, I speculate, he has a conscience, so it bothers him greatly. Pure speculation on my part.)

The media is an arm for the elites and IMO there is no doubt about it.

I agree on that point.

By the way, I no longer attach myself to a party and after the last election no longer believe that my vote even matters. If you'd of known me a year ago you'd understand how far I've come to realize that politics is another distraction to keep us off our path IMO. Realize I came extremely close to throwing my hat in the political ring recently but thank God I did not. I more or less chose my wife and family over helping out my constituent's.

Glad to hear you saw the light! I got really disillusioned after seeing how they censored Ron Paul. I worked very hard on that campaign, and the media just blatantly censored him. I saw proof of this. Not to mention the voting fraud putting Bush in the white house fraudulently, both times.

I still have hope that the system will change, as people change. So I will still vote. But I have no expectations or illusions that my vote will count. And I will work to elect Ron Paul again. But I won't be disillusioned this time, if there is a repeat of what happened last time. It's 2011. The negative elite can't continue, with the increased vibrations. Thus I have hope.

You see the thing is w/ guys like Ron Paul is that sure he says things like 'end the Fed' but why doesn't he really call them out? I wonder how many people have any idea of the fact that the Federal Reserve has as much to do w/ the U.S. govt as Federal Express? The Federal Reserve might as well be called Bank of America. You want to know why the Fed just keeps printing our money w/ our consent? B/c we don't control our dollar and you ought to look into how the Federal Reserve Act was passed in the middle of the night during Xmas break. It's disgusting to say the least! As for Palin the funny thing is she hasn't even been an elected official for how long now and the media STILL blasts her and keep giving obama a free pass when he's been by far the WORST POTUS we've EVER had! He's Carter on steroids and your perception of obama being a 'good guy' is laughable at best. Is his voting record of voting for live birth abortion that makes you think this? Or what is it? For the record I believe both Bush's are very evil as they most recently now are buying up as much water as possible for they refer to water these days as 'blue gold.'


I've really moved away from my political way of thinking b/c IMO all I can really control is the people in my life. I've tried for years to alert the masses of the wrongdoings of our country to no avail. The whole process is a joke. Just like the fake 'polls' they always cram down our throats which are really nothing more than propaganda machines.


Our politics are so twisted that Liberal have no idea what the true meaning of the word is. I've known several local people who have run for office around here as well as an Uncle who is no longer in politics but is now the CFO of AT&T. From talking to him about the likes of Rham Emanuel to him being at a private party a few years ago when McCain was there to renew the FISA bill I can assure you that these people are nothing like us by any means and Obama is no doubt one of them in every fashion. Until we have term limits and real accountability it's the people vs. the govt and has been for quite some time now.


The last POTUS who really cared about the people was when Lincoln warned that he had two threats and his most feared threat were Central bankers. There are three banks in the world that have WAY too much power. The Fed Reserve, Vatican bank, and the Bank of England which has a crazy history in itself. You ever heard of how the Bank of England got off of using the tally stick?


Pardon my rambling but I am at work and just started typing. But I've attached a link that is extremely informative and to the point on the "money changers" of the world. It's good to know where we came from so we have a better chance of getting to where we're going.



http://centre.telemanage.ca/links.nsf/ar...001A8A77#5

[Monica]

You see the thing is w/ guys like Ron Paul

"Guys like Ron Paul"? Can you tell me one person who is like Ron Paul?

is that sure he says things like 'end the Fed' but why doesn't he really call them out?

Daydramin, I invite you to get educated about Ron Paul. He has indeed done that, and continues to do that. In fact, he is a lone voice doing just that.

As for Palin the funny thing is she hasn't even been an elected official for how long now and the media STILL blasts her and keep giving obama a free pass when he's been by far the WORST POTUS we've EVER had!

Worse than Bush? I cannot fathom that. And I have very specific, concrete reasons for feeling that way about Bush. He did things that were unprecedented. So it's not some blind hatred because he's a Republican, like so many who hate the other party's guy just because they identify with their own party, so the other guy must be a bad guy. I have no party affiliation.

Even so, I have no illusions that Bush did all that stuff. He was just the puppet and doesn't get all the blame. So it's ridiculous to hate him. He too is an other-self. Whoever is in office, isn't necessarily responsible for what his administration does. He's just the puppet. Obama too is a puppet, though perhaps not as blatantly as Bush.

The difference is, in my opinion, that Obama didn't intend to be a puppet. Whereas, Bush was a puppet from the start. This is my opinion based on my own observation and is entirely subjective.

He's Carter on steroids and your perception of obama being a 'good guy' is laughable at best.

Respectfully, I have no interest in an "insult Obama or Bush" contest. Such comments lack substance. I fail to see any comparison between Bush and Obama so I don't want to participate in that.

Is his voting record of voting for live birth abortion that makes you think this?

Obama didn't vote 'for' live birth abortion. He voted 'against' what he considers an erosion of women's 'rights.' There is a distinct difference in the minds of those who consider themselves pro-choice.

For the record, I'm pro-life, and I disagree with Obama on this issue. I support Ron Paul's pro-life stance when it comes to abortion. Even though I disagree with them, I don't like to see their views and motivations misrepresented. I have a lot of friends who are pro-choice, and it's inaccurate to classify them as 'pro-abortion.'

Many of them are anti-war, pro-animal rights, etc. They don't see the contradiction.

Likewise, the pro-lifers don't see the contradiction either. I find it the height of hypocrisy for so many right-wing Republicans to claim to be pro-life, and then support war. (I have a bumpersticker stating, "War is not pro-life.")

(I'm not referring to anyone specifically on this forum. I know plenty of people in everyday life in both camps.)

I don't even agree with Ron Paul on every issue. There aren't any candidates or presidents with whom we will agree 100%. If Obama is evil because of a single issue, then, by that logic, all other presidents who have ever participated in any wars, are also evil. It's not that simple. And the voting on the issues isn't that simple either. Voting records get twisted and motivations gets skewed, to further whichever agenda one wishes to further.

Or what is it? For the record I believe both Bush's are very evil

Well we agree on that!

as they most recently now are buying up as much water as possible for they refer to water these days as 'blue gold.'

Buying water??? Please elaborate. I am keenly interested in this.

I've really moved away from my political way of thinking b/c IMO all I can really control is the people in my life. I've tried for years to alert the masses of the wrongdoings of our country to no avail. The whole process is a joke. Just like the fake 'polls' they always cram down our throats which are really nothing more than propaganda machines.

Agreed! However, I do believe that, as people wake up, the establishments (whether govt., medical, religious, or whatever) will reflect that.

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This is timely; someone just posted this on Facebook.

Actual News Headlines Vs. Fox News Headlines

[unity100]

.....................

so basically, ALL this, and in the end you are just too indulged in the right wing media to cause you to think that 'all media' is 'left leaning' ?

............

apparently my assessment was correct.

[seejay21]

there is no such thing as objective media in America. It's all about ratings, advertising, and ultimately money. If your viewpoints about our american leaders are not derived from your own experience, then you are probably wrong about them.

[Daydreamin]

You see the thing is w/ guys like Ron Paul

"Guys like Ron Paul"? Can you tell me one person who is like Ron Paul?

is that sure he says things like 'end the Fed' but why doesn't he really call them out?

Daydramin, I invite you to get educated about Ron Paul. He has indeed done that, and continues to do that. In fact, he is a lone voice doing just that.

As for Palin the funny thing is she hasn't even been an elected official for how long now and the media STILL blasts her and keep giving obama a free pass when he's been by far the WORST POTUS we've EVER had!

Worse than Bush? I cannot fathom that. And I have very specific, concrete reasons for feeling that way about Bush. He did things that were unprecedented. So it's not some blind hatred because he's a Republican, like so many who hate the other party's guy just because they identify with their own party, so the other guy must be a bad guy. I have no party affiliation.

Even so, I have no illusions that Bush did all that stuff. He was just the puppet and doesn't get all the blame. So it's ridiculous to hate him. He too is an other-self. Whoever is in office, isn't necessarily responsible for what his administration does. He's just the puppet. Obama too is a puppet, though perhaps not as blatantly as Bush.

The difference is, in my opinion, that Obama didn't intend to be a puppet. Whereas, Bush was a puppet from the start. This is my opinion based on my own observation and is entirely subjective.

He's Carter on steroids and your perception of obama being a 'good guy' is laughable at best.

Respectfully, I have no interest in an "insult Obama or Bush" contest. Such comments lack substance. I fail to see any comparison between Bush and Obama so I don't want to participate in that.

Is his voting record of voting for live birth abortion that makes you think this?

Obama didn't vote 'for' live birth abortion. He voted 'against' what he considers an erosion of women's 'rights.' There is a distinct difference in the minds of those who consider themselves pro-choice.

For the record, I'm pro-life, and I disagree with Obama on this issue. I support Ron Paul's pro-life stance when it comes to abortion. Even though I disagree with them, I don't like to see their views and motivations misrepresented. I have a lot of friends who are pro-choice, and it's inaccurate to classify them as 'pro-abortion.'

Many of them are anti-war, pro-animal rights, etc. They don't see the contradiction.

Likewise, the pro-lifers don't see the contradiction either. I find it the height of hypocrisy for so many right-wing Republicans to claim to be pro-life, and then support war. (I have a bumpersticker stating, "War is not pro-life.")

(I'm not referring to anyone specifically on this forum. I know plenty of people in everyday life in both camps.)

I don't even agree with Ron Paul on every issue. There aren't any candidates or presidents with whom we will agree 100%. If Obama is evil because of a single issue, then, by that logic, all other presidents who have ever participated in any wars, are also evil. It's not that simple. And the voting on the issues isn't that simple either. Voting records get twisted and motivations gets skewed, to further whichever agenda one wishes to further.

Or what is it? For the record I believe both Bush's are very evil

Well we agree on that!

as they most recently now are buying up as much water as possible for they refer to water these days as 'blue gold.'

Buying water??? Please elaborate. I am keenly interested in this.

I've really moved away from my political way of thinking b/c IMO all I can really control is the people in my life. I've tried for years to alert the masses of the wrongdoings of our country to no avail. The whole process is a joke. Just like the fake 'polls' they always cram down our throats which are really nothing more than propaganda machines.

Agreed! However, I do believe that, as people wake up, the establishments (whether govt., medical, religious, or whatever) will reflect that.

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This is timely; someone just posted this on Facebook.

Actual News Headlines Vs. Fox News Headlines

Who else is like Ron Paul? All the other Freemason's around the world how about?
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/...eemasonry/

IMO....all Ron Paul is, is a guy who will attract people like us who know the truth but in the end we'll be put in the 'conspiracy theorist' box.



As for the worst POTUS ever? Well, I guess we'd have to establish some sort of a test to apply to them. Until then, I'd go back to JFK or Lincoln to find a 'good' one.

And if you do not believe Obama is a puppet when he can't even speak in front of kids w/ out his teleprompter then I'm not sure he can do any wrong in your book coupled w/ the fact you can see past his live birth abortion stance which you are very wrong about.



As for your pro-life stance and bumper sticker, well why do lib's always think clever bumper stickers are the answer?



As for the water issue.........I believe the latest reservoir they bought was down in Brazil/Paraguay. Much like T. Boone Pickens owning nearly the entire Midwest's water reserve. Which is why they call water blue gold these days.


And I don't have time to check your link but I really do not need to. The fact is, is that the media is blatantly biased towards the left and it's not even up for debate. The dem's want to say Fox News leans the right but what about EVERY OTHER news outlet that is in the tank for the left? Does one channel equal all the other media outlets? Look at SNL on NBC and how biased they are. Look at Comedy Central which poses as a news outlet w/ the Daily Show and John Stewart aka John Lebowitz. Believe me in college I thought these guys knew it all and were hilarious but in reality they're just more drones for the left. Then you have Hollywood as well. You know guys like Sean Penn who praise Castro.

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so basically, ALL this, and in the end you are just too indulged in the right wing media to cause you to think that 'all media' is 'left leaning' ?

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apparently my assessment was correct.

Huh? Take away Fox news and then what? CNN who 'appears' to be in the middle only b/c the GE owned MSNBC is soooooo in the tank for the left. There isn't a paper in the country that doesn't lean left. Hell, even Newsweek and Time are to the left.

[unity100]

Huh? Take away Fox news and then what? CNN who 'appears' to be in the middle only b/c the GE owned MSNBC is soooooo in the tank for the left. There isn't a paper in the country that doesn't lean left. Hell, even Newsweek and Time are to the left.

leaving publications aside - since there are already a lot of right wing publications, even science publications - which of those news channels have the ratings of fox ?

[seejay21]

Huh? Take away Fox news and then what? CNN who 'appears' to be in the middle only b/c the GE owned MSNBC is soooooo in the tank for the left. There isn't a paper in the country that doesn't lean left. Hell, even Newsweek and Time are to the left.

leaving publications aside - since there are already a lot of right wing publications, even science publications - which of those news channels have the ratings of fox ?

Fox is about the only right wing news channel, and it has higher ratings because there are so many choices for the left.

It is interesting though, that whenever i'm traveling, the hotel will run fox news in the breakfast area. Always.

[unity100]

Fox is about the only right wing news channel, and it has higher ratings because there are so many choices for the left.

It is interesting though, that whenever i'm traveling, the hotel will run fox news in the breakfast area. Always.

maybe its more about the inflammatory, inciting, excessive attitude, than actual newsmaking ?

while other channels have been interpreting a lot of things, interactive channels and so on through the internet and other means, even delivering live reports from actual people in the middle of the events, live, fox news have been putting 3 pundits which were hurling one excessive, aggressive, outrageous accusation/hate speech over another.

at times, this even took the form of direct libel, defaming people. and one of the people defamed sued them, and fox news got out of the court case by arguing that they were NOT a news channel, but 'opinionated entertainment'.

[seejay21]

at times, this even took the form of direct libel, defaming people. and one of the people defamed sued them, and fox news got out of the court case by arguing that they were NOT a news channel, but 'opinionated entertainment'.

What about "Real Time with Bill Maher"? He defames someone every single time he's on, proably more insulting than Rush L in his wildest frenzy.

[unity100]

at times, this even took the form of direct libel, defaming people. and one of the people defamed sued them, and fox news got out of the court case by arguing that they were NOT a news channel, but 'opinionated entertainment'.

What about "Real Time with Bill Maher"? He defames someone every single time he's on, proably more insulting than Rush L in his wildest frenzy.

'somebody' doing it versus 'a news network' doing it are two different things.

in case you didnt read into the piece of information i provided above ; fox news officially declared itself NOT to be a NEWS network, but 'opinionated entertainment' in a court of law.

this basically means, they accept that whatever they were sued for, is a company wide policy.

otherwise, they could just hurl the responsibility to whatever individual host was doing the libel, and get out of it.

but, they couldnt. that could mean a few things :

- they were doing libel in many of their shows/programs, so that they couldnt just blame one host
- the hosts would be a liability if they blamed him/her
- they wanted to keep the route open for more of the same policy

either of these says that this is their official policy.

[3DMonkey]

Some people just love to follow others. Some people take a single news personality and make whatever they say their own personal doctrine. It is entertaining for them, and difficult to communicate with them at the same time.

[Monica]

Who else is like Ron Paul? All the other Freemason's around the world how about?

The link you posted is to an article which speculates that Ron Paul might be a Freemason, so I prefer to not accept that as absolute. It was far from convincing. I've never heard anything about him being a Freemason, but whether he is or not, I tend to dislike anyone being lumped into any broad category. That's like saying, "like all the other Catholics in the world" or "like all the other Asians in the world."

At any rate, what I meant by my question was, are there any other politicians like Ron Paul? Aside from some local politicians I might not know about, the only other one I know of is Dennis Kucinich.

Regardless of your opinion about Ron Paul's views and policies (assuming you are familiar with them?), I don't think it could be argued that he is "like all the other politicians."

IMO....all Ron Paul is, is a guy who will attract people like us who know the truth but in the end we'll be put in the 'conspiracy theorist' box.

I wouldn't say that's "all" he is..

And if you do not believe Obama is a puppet

Perhaps you missed my earlier post?

Obama too is a puppet, though perhaps not as blatantly as Bush.

The difference is, in my opinion, that Obama didn't intend to be a puppet. Whereas, Bush was a puppet from the start. This is my opinion based on my own observation and is entirely subjective.

when he can't even speak in front of kids w/ out his teleprompter then I'm not sure he can do any wrong in your book coupled w/ the fact you can see past his live birth abortion stance which you are very wrong about.

"See past" it? Did you miss my earlier post:

For the record, I'm pro-life, and I disagree with Obama on this issue.

Or, are you saying that if someone disagrees with my views on, say, abortion, I should not see any good in them or try to understand them?

Isn't that the problem with politics? That people become polarized, divided, over differences of opinion? Isn't that why we have wars? Because people don't try to understand those with differing viewpoints, religions, or cultures?

I am assuming you aren't saying that all pro-choice people are evil...?

As for your pro-life stance and bumper sticker, well why do lib's always think clever bumper stickers are the answer?

Why are you assuming I'm a liberal? And, even if I were, why is that 'bad'? I have never understood why the right-wing Republicans fling the word liberal as though it were an insult. Can you enlighten me on that? I truly don't understand it!

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Daydreamin, I just realized that you are a new member and haven't yet been given a proper greeting! Welcome to Bring4th!

Please take a moment to review our forum guidelines.

Bring4th is an exceptional community, in that we welcome passionate discussion, as long as it's respectful towards other-selves and focuses on the spiritual aspect of the topic.

I'd like to remind everyone that there are plenty of other forums for debating politics. Let's not let this discussion be reduced to insulting any politician, even if we believe them to be STS. Remember, they too are other-selves.

We have in common our spiritual foundation of the Law of One. But beyond that, we have some very divergent views here in our community. Politics is a very volatile topic. Let's all work together to keep this discussion positive, and avoid any labeling of those who disagree with us.

And I don't have time to check your link but I really do not need to.

You certainly have the free will to avoid any information that might conflict with your beliefs.

The fact is, is that the media is blatantly biased towards the left and it's not even up for debate.

Actually, it is. Anything subjective is open for debate.

The dem's want to say Fox News leans the right but what about EVERY OTHER news outlet that is in the tank for the left?

My question is: Why are we even discussing political left and right? That's like discussing Baptists vs Catholics. It has no relevance from a Law of One perspective.

[3DMonkey]

My question is: Why are we even discussing political left and right? That's like discussing Baptists vs Catholics. It has no relevance from a Law of One perspective.

Snap! I've been trying to come up with a way to express this thought. I just couldn't articulate it. Thanks