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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Processing Catalyst & Life Span

    Thread: Processing Catalyst & Life Span


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    08-20-2011, 01:35 PM (This post was last modified: 09-20-2011, 03:13 PM by native.)
    It seems that lifespan and the ability to process catalyst is most responsible for the slow growth on this planet. Sessions 20 and 22 discuss this.

    I generally have this sense of a mass amount of information coming at me (not personal catalyst), or rather, I feel in a real sense I guess what you would call the planetary/social mind and its catalyst that needs attention. I feel it as a type of energy or personal quality that is all around. It gives the feeling that you are moving through a space or experience at a very fast rate, as described below.

    Before having come across this material, and having only been exposed to the star seed concept, I had always felt that the rate of experience here is not what I was used to elsewhere. When the day is winding down, it seems as though I have only been in the waking state half as long as I'd like, and I could continue for another day with my thoughts. Some of this is the result of specific catalyst I've been letting build up, but generally speaking I feel the experience here very much seems to be pushing you along.

    I don't intend to paint the picture of being pressured or not centered, but I'm simply saying that the rate of experience here can be felt as a real effect. 'Time' moves too fast. What it seems to do, for me personally, is to cause one to remain stagnant as you resist the experience in a way by entering into a walking meditative state, as you attempt to live in the present moment. I'm really beginning to feel the call of obligation or responsibility, as it seems the natural way of side-stepping outside of this pace would be to become ingrained with what one came here to do, to drop out of time in a way and focus on something specific.

    What are your experiences?

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    20.23 Questioner: Can you tell me why nine hundred years is the optimum life span?

    Ra: I am Ra. The mind/body/spirit complex of third density has perhaps one hundred times as intensive a program of catalytic action from which to distill distortions and learn/teachings than any other of the densities. Thus the learn/teachings are most confusing to the mind/body/spirit complex which is, shall we say, inundated by the ocean of experience.

    During the first, shall we say, perhaps 150 to 200 of your years as you measure time, a mind/body/spirit complex is going through the process of a spiritual childhood. The mind and the body are not enough in a disciplined configuration to lend clarity to the spiritual influxes. Thus, the remaining time span is given to optimize the understandings which result from experience itself.

    20.24 Questioner: Then at present it would seem that our current life span is much too short for those who are new to third-density lessons. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Those entities which have, in some way, learned/taught themselves the appropriate distortions for rapid growth can now work within the confines of the shorter life span. However, the greater preponderance of your entities find themselves in what may be considered a perpetual childhood.


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    08-20-2011, 01:47 PM
    It takes time to do what we do. Sometimes there is much on our plate, sometimes things are very simple. There will come a time when I experience catalyst of being a grandfather. That time can not be now. Or, there may be time of great tragedy in my life, but that time is not now. Time appears to move quickly by for different reasons.

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    08-20-2011, 02:11 PM
    That's true. I still feel the rate of experience though as something independent of myself (a quality or influx of information being received) even when centered.

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    08-20-2011, 03:13 PM (This post was last modified: 08-20-2011, 03:14 PM by zenmaster.)
    (08-20-2011, 01:35 PM)Icaro Wrote: but I'm simply saying that the rate of experience here can be felt as a real effect. 'Time' moves too fast.
    Real but entirely incidental. Since it's a collective thing, one can imagine one's mind as being as a current in a larger current of some greater mind.

    Subjectively, all of our sense impressions arise from the unconscious, which is temporal based. That is, they are impressed upon us from a background of unconsciousness. That which beckons one's attention out of this background of unconsciousness is an 'event'. More events with perceived proximal relationship create the illusion of shorter periods of duration, which is where we get 'time' (its durational component) speeding up (lessening). While our own abilities to adapt to process the catalyst and or notion of historical pace of catalyst is relative, many people have noticed 'the speed up' for over 15 years now I guess.

    One theory is that we (consciousness) are simply moving closer to the unconscious, or that it is becoming more evident and involved in our thoughts. In other words, the milieu is being limned. As far as I can tell, this quickening is the subjective experience of a balancing of time/space to space/time - whereas it was necessarily imbalanced due to the need to conceal the unconscious.

    In order to face the unconscious and abide in that realm, one must have a sufficient grounding in self-awareness (self-consciousness), otherwise the currents of unconscious mind will tend to 'sweep one away' like tidal forces. That's basically the 3D 'harvest'. The supporting environment for the veil or imbalance of time/space to space/time is diminishing to a point where useful catalyst for 3D evolution is not available or where more useful catalyst would be found somewhere else.
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    08-20-2011, 03:59 PM
    I can understand how the revelation of the unconscious, this balancing effect, would create the sense of faster movement. It's as if pressure has been building up in the unconscious through willful ignorance and it is now opening up and being released.

    By useful 3D catalyst not being available though are you referring to those that will feel the new energies and choose to reject it, reverting once again to focusing on the self? In my mind as 3D goes into potentiation I see our social differences becoming more pronounced, so the ability to have a more agreed upon social structure (3D experience) will be hard to negotiate. So there will be those that make the leap of unification and those that don't.

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    08-20-2011, 04:17 PM
    (08-20-2011, 03:59 PM)Icaro Wrote: I can understand how the revelation of the unconscious, this balancing effect, would create the sense of faster movement. It's as if pressure has been building up in the unconscious through willful ignorance and it is now opening up and being released.

    By useful 3D catalyst not being available though are you referring to those that will feel the new energies and choose to reject it, reverting once again to focusing on the self? In my mind as 3D goes into potentiation I see our social differences becoming more pronounced, so the ability to have a more agreed upon social structure (3D experience) will be hard to negotiate. So there will be those that make the leap of unification and those that don't.
    The ones that have the information that underlies thought itself, that sees into the nature of things ('noumenal realm)' will be those that do not reject the new energies. That's an understanding that is capable of resolving disparities in social structure, for example. It is a balance- or needs-aware, problem-solving understanding ('new breed') and one capable of providing a way which is acceptable for the reverted focus.

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    08-20-2011, 04:37 PM (This post was last modified: 08-20-2011, 04:38 PM by native.)
    Which is why groundwork must be laid in regards to consciousness. Those of the opinion that you simply have to reveal truth and the people will understand, ignore that you have first have to be coming from a place within yourself that has already processed a sufficient amount of understanding to truly perceive what is being said.

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    08-20-2011, 05:50 PM
    This may sound a bit tangential, but I recently came across the "Book of Aquarius" which gives plain English instructions for making the Philosopher's Stone.

    According to the Author, physical creation of the stone is simply an acceleration of natural processes that would occur in their own time. Moreover, once created, the stone acts as a catalyst on other things it comes in contact to. This is responsible for the ability to turn a base metal into gold, or to confer longevity on a person. But there also seem to be some accelerating effects on the way that person processes spiritual catalyst.

    Now whether or not the Philosopher's Stone is real, this brings up an interesting thing to ponder which gets back to your first post... because it does also seem to me that the rate of incoming catalyst seems to have been increasing. Throughout my life I observe a series of quickenings, which themselves are getting closer together. It seems similar to the contraction waves of childbirth, and I can only assume that at this rate the birth is very close.

    Though I also assume there are many others like me processing as much as they reasonably can, there are many more (probably the majority) who continue to process catalyst at painstakingly slow rates. This creates an overflow of catalyst to be processed by those who are already at capacity.

    So we CAN increase the capacity in those who are conscious, but I personally feel like the more catalyst one is processing, the more downtime and rest is necessary. So this is nearly impossible to do in a normal life situation, with spouses, kids, nine to fives, and whatnot. It is possible, but requires one to become more of a recluse. So each of us needs to choose for ourselves where to draw that line and say OK we've had enough. We've come what we came here to do, and we've held out as long as we could, and now it is time for the rest of humanity to SEE what they've been in DENIAL of this whole time, i.e. the unprocessed catalyst.

    Now another way to increase the capacity to process catalyst is to increase the life span of the physical vehicle. Yet, is this really advisable? The irony of the Philosopher's Stone is that it could theoretically allow one to live forever... but who would really want to? An even bigger cosmic joke is played if the Stone actually speeds up processing of catalyst. Imagine, having learned all your "lessons" within the first year of using the stone, but then being left to figure out what you are going to do with your life for the next 500 years!

    I suppose it all depends on where one is in the process whether this is the time to "step forward" or to "step back". Personally, I tend to be skeptical about any "Call of Duty" that I feel tugging at me. It's too easy to get caught up in the whirlwind, and if indeed we are on the precipice of some type of cosmic event, what would be the point? Why would I suddenly be required to shift gears right before the end? And who is doing the requiring, anyway? So these are just the thoughts that go through my mind.

    As for increased life span, if I had the Philosopher's Stone I honestly don't know if I would use it without also having the knowledge about how to die at will. Knowing the secret of life without knowing the secret of death seems a dubious proposition to me.








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    08-20-2011, 07:04 PM (This post was last modified: 08-20-2011, 09:21 PM by native.)
    (08-20-2011, 05:50 PM)Tenet Nosce Wrote: So we CAN increase the capacity in those who are conscious, but I personally feel like the more catalyst one is processing, the more downtime and rest is necessary. So this is nearly impossible to do in a normal life situation, with spouses, kids, nine to fives, and whatnot. It is possible, but requires one to become more of a recluse. So each of us needs to choose for ourselves where to draw that line and say OK we've had enough. We've come what we came here to do, and we've held out as long as we could, and now it is time for the rest of humanity to SEE what they've been in DENIAL of this whole time, i.e. the unprocessed catalyst.

    Getting caught up in the daily aspects of living is one aspect of not advancing consciousness, and to break free from that requires effort from the seeker. It can't be forced. Nor can we just show them their problems and provide the answers with the people saying "Oh I get it now". In actuality reasonable answers exist that await contemplation. Everything is available for the people to see/consider, and so our current environment is the result of inaction. The only thing that can be done is to live by example and provide inspiration.

    I sympathize with your viewpoint, but what I think that is often overlooked is that we are simply seeing the indecisive aspect (or lack of motivation) of the Creator within the individual when put in these conditions. In other words, its self-centered aspect. It's not so much anyone's fault, or, "Why can't they get it?" or "If we just do this or if they would just do that they would understand." Rather, we are simply witness to lessons learned..which is the whole point of creation. Experimentation and learning. So there is no grand answer or solution in the meantime, but simply to learn from it. We can't provide the change within the individual. The only thing we can do is promote the ways of love and be living examples.
    Quote:Now another way to increase the capacity to process catalyst is to increase the life span of the physical vehicle.

    If you read sessions 20 and 22, the decrease in life span is the result of not perpetuating lessons learned. So it would be nice to increase life span but it requires one to demonstrate their understandings.
    Quote:22.5 By the end of the second cycle, the Law of Responsibility had begun to be effectuated by the increasing ability of entities to grasp those lessons which there are to be learned in this density. Thus, entities had discovered many ways to indicate a bellicose nature, not only as tribes or what you call nations but in personal relationships, each with the other, the concept of barter having given way to the concept of money; also, the concept of ownership having won ascendancy over the concept of nonownership on an individual or group basis.

    Each entity then was offered many more subtle ways of demonstrating either service toward others or service to self with the distortion of the manipulation of others. As each lesson was understood, those lessons of sharing, of giving, of receiving in free gratitude—each lesson could be rejected in practice.

    Without demonstrating the fruits of such learn/teaching the life span became greatly reduced, for the ways of honor/duty were not being accepted.

    Quote:Personally, I tend to be skeptical about any "Call of Duty" that I feel tugging at me.

    This was simply a comment on a wanderer's purpose. That if a wanderer focuses more on what they came to do, their day to day experience may not feel rushed.

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    08-21-2011, 01:03 AM (This post was last modified: 08-21-2011, 01:04 AM by zenmaster.)
    (08-20-2011, 04:37 PM)Icaro Wrote: Which is why groundwork must be laid in regards to consciousness. Those of the opinion that you simply have to reveal truth and the people will understand, ignore that you have first have to be coming from a place within yourself that has already processed a sufficient amount of understanding to truly perceive what is being said.
    It's not truth absolute, but truth relative. As I was saying, there is a level that appreciates each stage of learning and can deliver that 'truth' which is acceptable to the consciousness of a particular stage. This is a 'bridge' of understanding. It has already been identified as the 2nd tier of Spiral Dynamics.


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    08-21-2011, 10:37 AM
    Sure..we each are coming from different angles in our seeking.

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    07-20-2014, 06:36 PM (This post was last modified: 07-20-2014, 06:37 PM by Adonai One.)
    In contrast, I've felt time move slower and slower as I've begun to appreciate the moments of life more and more. It is only fast if what is seen is not desired. Complete acceptance of all catalyst, in my view, will lead to timelessness, infinite appreciation of the present moment as infinity.

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    07-20-2014, 06:59 PM
    The feeling that I described doesn't really seem to be there anymore, but time flies as I've been more active these days. I miss 3DMonkey Sad
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