Archetype Classifications Defined

[JustLikeYou]

Before I begin, I want to emphasize that I do not consider myself a master of the Archetypical Mind. I have spent time with these concept complexes, examining Ra's descriptions for clarity and in some cases expanding them in ways I find useful and intriguing. I don't expect to offer anything particularly unique, but I wanted to share my perspective with Bring4th, hoping to help the baffled and learn from the adept.

I've decided that there is too much to say about the specific cards in the Mind Cycle to include these comments in a thread which elaborates the definitions of the classification names. I've split them up accordingly.

I'm going to assume that the reader has read through Book IV at least once and is familiar with the pictures on the cards. If there’s interest, I’ll put pictures in the threads. The deck I use is the Brotherhood of Light deck (it's beautiful, though I would have chosen many of the colors differently for reasons that would be obvious to any follower of Ra’s).

Granted that everyone reading has a decent grasp of the first seven cards, I'd like to bring out the definitions of the classifications in order to comprehend words like "Significator" and "Potentiator" more clearly.

Ra: I am Ra. At the beginning of this creation or, as you may call it, octave there were those things known which were the harvest of the preceding octave. About the preceding creation, we know as little as we do of the octave to come. However, we are aware of those pieces of gathered concept which were the tools which the Creator had in the knowing of the self.

These tools were of three kinds. Firstly, there was an awareness of the efficiency for experience of mind, body, and spirit. Secondly, there was an awareness of the most efficacious nature or, if you will, significator of mind, body, and spirit. Thirdly, there was the awareness of two aspects of mind, of body, and of spirit that the significator could use to balance all catalyst. You may call these two the matrix and the potentiator.

So the Creator knew that the mind/body/spirit means of experience would bring plenty of knowledge to the Creator about itself and it therefore split itself into three parts for this experience. A "most efficacious nature" is another way of saying two things: first, the Significator names the "nature" of the mind, body and/or spirit; second, the particular nature (or Significator) is the most efficient of the possibilities known to the Creator. We therefore know that the Significator cards name the natures of mind, body and spirit. These natures have a specific architecture which relates them to each other (and happens to be the “most efficacious” of the architectures). By way of speaking what this relationship between mind, body and spirit is, we already know from reading the Law of One that the mind creates body, the spirit connects mind to infinity. It is a beautifully simple way to individualize the infinite in order to experience finitude: each mind is individual and each body reflects this, yet each mind is only individual because each spirit channels infinity (which is unified) to that mind uniquely. These basic features can be seen in the Significator cards themselves.

The Significators therefore depict each of the mind, body and spirit as a whole and post-veil the Significators depict the mind complex, body complex and spirit complex, each as a whole. The most accurate analogy I can provide for the Significator's importance in the context of the cycle of which it is a part is that this card represents the complex itself which is present to all of these experiences.

The Creator also knew that within this Significator (or nature), there were two concepts which would bring the Creator experience: the Potentiator which gives of itself to the Matrix. So the One chose to split its experience into Three (mind, body, spirit) in order to know itself as many. It also knew that each of the three needed to split into three (Significator, Matrix, Potentiator) in order for the experience to happen at all (the mind, body and spirit must each have three parts in order for each to experience itself flowing into itself). This is the origin of the original nine archetypes.

So the Matrix is that part of the Significator which receives the imprint of the Potentiator. The Potentiator is that part of the Significator which projects that which is to be experienced upon the Matrix. The Matrix is the screen, the Potentiator is the signal, the Significator is the eye.

Ra: I am Ra. You have been most interested in the Significator which must needs become complex. The Hierophant is the original archetype of mind which has been made complex through the subtile movements of the conscious and unconscious. The complexities of mind were evolved rather than the simple melding of experience from Potentiator to Matrix.

The mind itself became an actor possessed of free will and, more especially, will. As the Significator of the mind, the Hierophant has the will to know, but what shall it do with its knowledge, and for what reasons does it seek? The potentials of a complex significator are manifold.

The veil is the act of granting the Significator complexity. It is important that Ra only says that the mind "became an actor possessed of free will," because this suggest that free will does not extend to body and spirit (though I would say that the Choice does extend to them, but it does not take the form of will). Strictly speaking, this seems fairly obvious because the mind is what has will -- by definition. Prior to the veiling, the will of the mind conformed to the will of the individual portion of the Creator tapped by Intelligent Infinity, which (as I understand him), Ra names an "entity", which seems to encompass all of the incarnations and disincarnations that this particular portion of the Creator experiences. I believe this is what Ra means when he says that the Logos viewed itself as offering free will to its Creation: each individual part of the Creator, each entity, has its own free will...but within these entities, there is a particular kind of experience called veiled 3-D, and in this experience, the individual incarnation has free will apart from the will of the entity that that incarnation represents! This fact is supported by the danger of incarnating as a Wanderer: you can lose your polarity because the choice is left up to the Significator of the Mind in that particular incarnation. You might just undergo the Remembering only to discover that your Significator switched polarities on you!

So the complexity of the Significator of the Mind arises through the free will of the Significator. This complexity is depicted quite directly in the Transformation card. It is worth noting that a thing which transforms is necessarily complex. The mind can only transform from one state to another if there is complexity within that mind, if there is separation from itself. In the space of this separation from itself (the veil), the mind (Significator) begins as a thing (Matrix) which does not know itself (Potentiator). In order for information within the mind (Significator) to transfer from itself (Potentiator) to itself (Matrix), it (Matrix) must be capable of knowing something about itself (Potentiator): The knower (Significator) must be both ignorant (Matrix) and informed (Experience). The known (Significator) must be both hidden (Potentiator) and revealed (Catalyst). In each cycle, these four cards depict the movements which are involved in the act of potentiating the matrix, for each cycle has a veil between its potentiator and matrix, necessitating the Catalyst and Experience which are the flip-side of the Potentiator and Matrix.

This quotation supports the notion that the first four classifications do, indeed, fall under the rubric of the fifth:

92.15 Questioner: Then, the dynamic process between the Matrix, Potentiator, Catalyst, and Experience of the Mind forms the nature of the mind or the Significator of the Mind. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. As our previous response suggests, the Significator of the Mind is both actor and acted upon. With this exception the statement is largely correct.

Whereas the Matrix, Potentiator, Catalyst and Experience cards depict the ongoing process of the matrix receiving a potentiator which is hidden from it, the Transformation card depicts the transformation, the quantum shift, the upgrade, the level up, the graduation, the next kind of experience which is available when one has learned enough about oneself.

The mind's transformation is a releasing of a contradictory attitude toward itself: the conscious mind (Matrix/Experience) may either appreciate, woo and gradually court that which is in the unconscious (Potentiator/Catalyst) as it decides to reveal itself...or it may demand, enforce, and plunder at will that which is in the unconscious. Until a choice is made, the mind will not enter a new kind of experience, but will remain in the same form until it has learned enough about itself to will to make this choice.

Finally, the Great Way is the card which depicts the cycle as a whole. Whereas the Significator depicts the complex, the Great Way depicts the entire cycle which brings the Significator experience. Thus, one may think of the cycle and the Great Way as being analogous to the mathematical set (cycle) that contains itself (Great Way). So the Significator can be viewed as the Complex without any vision of the process of evolution occuring, whereas the Great Way depicts the Complex within the context of the process of evolution. Each transformation brings the Significator into closer and closer approximation of the Great Way card which depicts the goal within itself. What is perhaps most interesting about comparing the Significator cards to the Great Way cards is that the Significator can be either naive or wise and would still look the same to an outside viewer; whereas, the Great Way depicts the Significator glorified and removed of all naivete.

Simple definitions:

Although the material I have drawn from in grasping the names of the classifications relates primarily to the Mind Cycle, my examination of all 22 cards suggests to me that these simple definitions bear a great deal of staying power:

Matrix - Significator Uninformed
Potentiator - Significator Hidden
Catalyst - Significator Revealed
Experience - Significator Informed
Significator - The Complex Itself
Transformation - Significator Focused enough to Choose
Great Way - Environment in which the Significator explores itself

Summary:

If the Great Way is the Path, the Significator is the one who walks, the Matrix, Potentiator, Catalyst and Experience are the gears that turn within the Significator to translate the decision to walk into the movement of the feet, and the Transformation is the jet pack that can be switched on only by pursuing the path with awareness and mindfulness.

For those familiar with science, I think of the process of catalyzing the matrix as represented by cards 1-4 as the process of filling in the various details within the context of a scientific theory. We can liken this to exploring the boundaries of the belief system that motivates all of one’s actions. Conversely, I think of the process of transformation as the process of overthrowing an old scientific theory in favor of a new one. We can liken this to a basic revision of the belief system. So if I love music and want to be a musician, I will experiment with different instruments to see what I like best. This is the process of catalyzing the matrix. But if I found out that I was far more proficient at production of music than playing an instrument, I will undergo a complete revision of my notions of what it is that I want, thereby allowing for an entirely new system within which to undergo matrix potentiation through processing of catalyst. This is the process of transformation. The key to transforming is that you are aware of the process and choose accelerate the change via a complete overhaul rather than a small tweak.

Please comment. I am very interested in discussing all of these things further, and if any of you want to bring in relevant quotations from Ra or other L/L contacts, please do so.

Joseph

[Oldern]

Wow, a well-written post, Joseph. I wish I could make some good points regarding this, but I am not sure if I am able to.
*goes back to read Book IV*

[AnthroHeart]

I'd be curious to know from your view, the most efficient manner of polarizing.

[JustLikeYou]

Thank you Oldern. There are more to come. I've got a few drafted already.

Gemini Wolf, I think the basic means of polarizing are hard-wired into our minds, so to speak. That hard-wiring is, of course, Archetypical Mind. Thus, the most efficient manner would be to become conscious of the structure of evolution, recognize its appearance in your daily life, and encourage it at each step. In this way, you can recognize the catalyst, you know how to process it, you know what you must do to transform, and you know where the path leads. This is the method that I use and it is the very reason why I have spent so much time with the Archetypes in the first place.

[AnthroHeart]

I've realized there's danger in polarizing too quickly for one's level of development. Higher density catalyst can be overwhelming.

[JustLikeYou]

I'm not sure I understand. The impression I have is that higher density catalyst is not available without a higher density body designed to perceive that catalyst. I also do not understand the distinction between "level of development" and polarity.

In my study, these Archetypes have revealed themselves to contain information about balancing each of the energy centers. Following the course of the Archetypes themselves is a good way to prevent being overwhelmed. Ra says that the mind must be initiated before the body. One may here infer that the body must be initiated before the spirit. Although the heart of the Choice is polarizing, the process of evolving the mind/body/spirit complex is broader than just polarizing.

I should also mention that the simplest method for polarizing is essentially the Disciplines of Mind as Ra describes them. This process actually has another name in metaphysical/spiritual culture: "Ho'oponopono". If you want to polarize rapidly, this is the quickest route that I know of.

[AnthroHeart]

I should have been clearer, I meant higher sub-density catalyst within 3D.

I am a strong clairsentient, and build polarity by feeling the catalyst directly and how it vibrates my field.
When I allow the catalyst to work, and thus it stills down, I find I rise up to where these catalyst vibrations
become denser and harder. This can get tiring, and produce dizziness and the sensation of being unbalanced
and lots of pressure in the 3rd eye.

My level of development is one where I can comfortably manage the catalyst vibrations. Though they
tend to become denser than I am comfortable with.

[JustLikeYou]

Each has a different experience. I can attempt to diagnose what kind of catalyst you are experiencing, but really only you can make this judgment accurately. My experience of danger has been precisely this: where there is danger, there is imbalance. To walk with perfect balance is to be perfectly safe. Therefore, if the world cuts me unnecessarily, it is because I cut some part of the world unnecessarily. If it blinds me, its because I was looking too long at the light without appreciating the darkness. If it hurts my feelings, it's because I've been to harsh in handling it. Every catalyst can be seen as a hint that the world is giving you about your own imbalances, like a coach who stands next to you while you are standing only on your left toe and touches you where you are starting to tip over.

In fact, in my experience your concern of intense catalyst in high polarity is somewhat ironic: the more balanced I become, the lighter and less daunting my catalyst is. The world seems to have become gentler with me because I have become gentler with it.

[AnthroHeart]

In fact, in my experience your concern of intense catalyst in high polarity is somewhat ironic: the more balanced I become, the lighter and less daunting my catalyst is. The world seems to have become gentler with me because I have become gentler with it.

You're right that we experience things differently. Mine as I see it now, is about uncovering ever-deeper emotional imbalances. I become more sensitive.

Catalyst before was hitting me in rapid short-fire bursts. Now, it's a smooth wave perhaps with a period of 10-20 seconds, which allows me to ease into it. But it's a dense wave that does a lot more shifting than what the former shortfire catalyst waves would do.

I'm centered and comfortable much of the time, but I tend to get a bit too eager in my seeking and push myself, causing me to encounter denser catalyst. The lighter catalyst has mostly been stilled in me, as in there isn't the automatic emotional response that I had to the same things as before. For me, this is about knowing myself. I am learning that below emotions there are other emotions, and others still finer.

So to me, feeling compressed in the Light is comfortable.

[βαθμιαίος]

JustLikeYou, thank you for starting this thread and for your interesting posts in it. I think what you say makes a lot of sense, but I do have a question. Several times Ra reminded Don, when he said things like "[t]his produces Experience which then leads to the Transformation and produces the Great Way" (88.17) that each archetype is a complex in itself and that he should not confuse the incarnation with the archetypical mind. Could you address Don's (and my) confusion on this question, and explain how your approach differs from Don's? I'm thinking, for example, of what you wrote here: "[w]hereas the Matrix, Potentiator, Catalyst and Experience cards depict the ongoing process of the matrix receiving a potentiator which is hidden from it, the Transformation card depicts the transformation, the quantum shift, the upgrade, the level up, the graduation, the next kind of experience which is available when one has learned enough about oneself."

[βαθμιαίος]

In my study, these Archetypes have revealed themselves to contain information about balancing each of the energy centers.

Could you say more about this? It sounds interesting.

[JustLikeYou]

Sure. The information that I see in the cards is not as precise as Ra's descriptions of balancing the energy centers, but it's nevertheless there.

For the sake of simplicity, I'm just going to talk about the STO perspective.

In Archetypes 3 and 4, the unconscious mind is revealed to the conscious mind, offering an opportunity to accept and love the unconscious mind. Here we can find information about the first three energy centers. Because all things can be found within the mind, it is evident that imbalances in the red ray center, for example, will show themselves to you in two ways: over-concern for your survival simultaneous with disregard for your survival. Consider a person who is always afraid of being attacked. This person will have locks all over his house, demonstrating over-concern for survival. Yet, this person is also likely to have a hair-trigger in response to threats, demonstrating a disregard for survival. When this person is capable of seeing the presence of both of these within himself, and accept and love these things, the red ray will be come more balanced. Such is the case for all chakras red through yellow.

Everything changes with green ray, though (as we know). Here, the balance happens differently: you must commit yourself either to unconditional love or to unconditional control. While the Choice which begins the act of balancing happens in the 22nd Archetype, the elaboration of this choice reveals itself to me in Archetypes 9, 10 and 11. The real test of love is your experiences in the real world, not what you find in meditation. If you find that you acted unwisely and that your actions came from an imbalance within yourself, this imbalance will fling itself back at you on the wheel as catalyst. In order to process this catalyst, you must approach that which you no longer want in your experience (the angry lion) with the water vessel balanced upon your head. This is the light touch, the gentle handling of your experience within which lies great power. This act of processing can reflect upon all of the energy centers as a means of balancing them, but it is most prominent in the green and blue rays. If you consistently act out of love, the world will respond with love. However, if you give a measure of love which is not balanced with wisdom, love which is more than was necessary to be helpful, you attract vultures. Love without wisdom can be seen as the act of holding the water upright upon your head. This water holds the unmanifest desires that you so wish to see occur in the world, but you must move slowly so you do not spill the water. Recall in Archetype 14 that the water must be poured from the silver vessel into the gold vessel without spillage. This Archetype shows how the spilling happens: you are overzealous or overcautious. Learn to channel your divine self with comfort, honesty, love and wisdom and you will be able to walk right up to the lion and gently close its mouth.

The indigo ray is, to me, the domain of the spirit. The balancing of this ray can be seen in Archetypes 17 and 18. When you find yourself faced with a catastrophe which releases all the emotions and attachments you had locked up inside (as your pour out all the water), you have the opportunity to see either hope or fear in the situation. To choose fear is to deny your divinity, to believe that you are not worthy to walk in the light. To choose love and hope is to release the light within in confidence of your divine worthiness as you navigate even the darkest situations with the optimism of a Christ, a Krishna, a Buddha. Do this consistently and the way will open for you to experience Archetype 20: the transformation of the world around you into a sacred space. This card shows me the opening of the crown chakra, the sacramental nature of all experience.

While I may have perhaps described these correlations as cut and dry, I should emphasize that I see aspects of each of the different chakras in each of the different Archetypes. It is worth mentioning that I have divided the domain of the Archetypes into three different body-groups. The Mind Cycle is the domain of the Green Ray and Blue Ray bodies; the Body Cycle is the domain of the Red Ray, Orange Ray, and Yellow Ray bodies; the Spirit Cycle is the domain of the Indigo and Violet Ray bodies. Each body has within itself all seven chakras, so each has information about balancing any given chakra. However, some chakras are more prominent than others in the experiences relating to any given Cycle.

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Just saw your first question, βαθμιαίος. I think that Ra was being careful with Don's words because Don was imagining that the Archetypes themselves are generated in the experience. Statements such as "the Transformation produces the Great Way" do not appreciate that the Transformation and the Great Way are both part of the Archetypical Mind and therefore are not produced. Your experience of Transformation can lead to an experience of the Great Way, but that does not involve the Archetypes as things in their own right. Rather, it involves your perception of them.

Conversely, my descriptions of the classifications within Archetypical Mind are designed to appreciate this distinction. So when I say that the Matrix, Potentiator, Catalyst and Experience are the mechanism by which the Significator first separates itself from itself and then comes to know itself, I do not mean that these kinds of experience in my life literally are the Archetypes or that any kind of experience affects those archetypes. Rather, what I am trying to say is that these are the relationships the Archetypes have to each other and attention to my own experience has reinforced these notions. What I think Ra wanted to emphasize is that the Archetypes do not arise out of your experience; rather, your experience arises out of the Archetypes. As always, the principle As Above, So Below is at work, so it is relevant to examine your experience as it personifies and portrays to you the Archetypes in their operations; yet, it is critical to remember that your incarnational experience is the Below and Archetypical Mind is the Above.

[βαθμιαίος]

Thanks, that's interesting. I have some thoughts/questions about some of the cards you mentioned in discussing energy centers, but maybe I should wait until you get to those cards.

[nwthomas]

You say that the Significator is the unity of all of the previous archetypes. I think this is a piece of the puzzle, but I think it's also probably not the whole picture, because I'm under the impression that the Significator is not only the unity of Matrix and Potentiator, but also a product of the evolutionary process kicked off by the interaction between the Matrix and the Potentiator. More generally, I think the Significator has to be something above and beyond the sum of the preceding archetypes; otherwise it would not be a distinct concept, and there would be no need to include it. The same comment would apply to your interpretation of the Great Way.

"In the space of this separation from itself (the veil), the mind (Significator) begins as a thing (Matrix) which does not know itself (Potentiator). In order for information within the mind (Significator) to transfer from itself (Potentiator) to itself (Matrix), it (Matrix) must be capable of knowing something about itself (Potentiator): The knower (Significator) must be both ignorant (Matrix) and informed (Experience). The known (Significator) must be both hidden (Potentiator) and revealed (Catalyst). In each cycle, these four cards depict the movements which are involved in the act of potentiating the matrix, for each cycle has a veil between its potentiator and matrix, necessitating the Catalyst and Experience which are the flip-side of the Potentiator and Matrix."

This is insightful; thank you. I'm liking the idea that each of the archetypes is the self, in a different functional role of the self's relationship with itself.

"Whereas the Matrix, Potentiator, Catalyst and Experience cards depict the ongoing process of the matrix receiving a potentiator which is hidden from it, the Transformation card depicts the transformation, the quantum shift, the upgrade, the level up, the graduation, the next kind of experience which is available when one has learned enough about oneself."

I like this description. I've been getting the impression lately that spiritual evolution occurs in quantum shifts to different levels of vibration. For example, there is a quantum shift from third density to fourth density. Of course, since each density has an infinite number of sub-densities, the quantum shift from one color to another involves seven quantum shifts through each of its sub-colors, and each of those quantum shifts involves seven smaller quantum shifts, and so forth unto infinity. So the net effect is that spiritual evolution occurs in quantum shifts which are effectively a continuous spectrum, due to an appeal to infinity. All of that to say that I appreciate your description of the Transformation as a quantum shift.

I'm not really convinced by your description of the Great Way, but I don't have a clear idea myself of what this card is about, so I'll be agnostic for now.

[JustLikeYou]

I'd like to introduce all of you to one of my major sources of inspiration in my quest for mastery over Archetypical Mind. nwthomas, whom I know as Nick, has been a friend and interlocutor for many months now, and I find he is very effective at keeping me honest in my inquiries. Thank you for the response, Nick!

You say that the Significator is the unity of all of the previous archetypes. I think this is a piece of the puzzle, but I think it's also probably not the whole picture, because I'm under the impression that the Significator is not only the unity of Matrix and Potentiator, but also a product of the evolutionary process kicked off by the interaction between the Matrix and the Potentiator.

In 79.36, Ra says

The Hierophant is the Significator of the Body* complex, its very nature... The heart of the mind complex is that dynamic entity which absorbs, seeks, and attempts to learn.

Ra's short description captures the movements involved in the interplay between the conscious and unconscious mind, suggesting that it does, indeed, depict that which is described individually in the preceding four cards. The conscious mind (Matrix/Experience) can only absorb what the unconscious mind (Potentiator/Catalyst) brings it. The unconscious mind (Potentiator) only brings forth what the conscious mind (Matrix) seeks. Experience is only had when the conscious mind (Experience) chooses to learn what the unconscious mind (Catalyst) is teaching. However, I should remind you that, as Ra says in a different context, "The whole is greater than the sum of the parts." The interaction between the four previous cards by its very nature goes above and beyond what is depicted individually.

The second part of your statement I disagree with. Each Archetype is distinct from all the others and none of them begets another: they are all begotten directly from the Logos of our galaxy. In your experience, however, the Catalyst is the product of the Matrix once Potentiated. Beyond this one aspect of production, I have not yet found further parent-child type relationships within the Archetypes. And if, as I have suggested, the Significator is a greater picture of the nature of the mind in its evolutionary movements, it would not make sense for it to be produced by one of its own moving parts.

The same comment would apply to your interpretation of the Great Way.

In 92.17 , Ra says:

While studying the archetypical mind we may suggest that the student look at the Great Way of the Mind, not as that which is attained after contact with intelligent infinity, but rather as that portion of the archetypical mind which denotes and configures the particular framework within which the Mind, the Body, or the Spirit archetypes move.

in 100.5 :

The Great Way of Mind, Body, or Spirit is intended to limn the milieu within which the work of mind, body, or spirit shall be placed.

and in 100.9 :

[W]e ask that the student consider the Great Way not as the culmination of a series of seven activities or functions but as a far more clearly delineated image of the environment within which the mind, body, or spirit shall function.

This is the environment in which the Mind evolves. As such, it can be expected, in each of the three Cycles, to be more similar to the Significator than any other archetype. However, the major difference is that the context of the Significator is depicted in the Great Way card.

[Namaste]

I intend to study your ideas JLY, time permitting. Thank you for your (great) efforts here.

[apeiron]

I am lacking a definition of the Archetypal Mind that allows me to connect it to the spirit complex. I can understand the connection of the Archetypal Mind with the mind complex and body complex but not with the spirit.

Also, do these archetypes also apply to 2d entities or 2d cycle?

What about 4d an above?

I remember Ra saying 22 was the maximum number of archetypes at this point tried for this octave.

[apeiron]

Some random thoughts here:

The matrix should be available in all densities of the present octave in at least space-time since is the "playground" or the base on which experiences can be had.

Potentiator and Significator seem to start in 2D, entity becoming aware (hopefully) of spirit complex in 3D continuing to 4D refining this, 4D becoming a bridge lets say, to higher densities. Catalysts becoming more refined as entity becomes aware of intention therefore able to change Matrix depending on experiences wanted. This not only pertaining to pre-incarnational arrangements, karma but while in incarnative state.

Obviously freedom over this Matrix and experiences increase with higher densities to the point of while in end of 6D entity is able to manipulate itself into Higher Self.

Feminine/Masculine principles part of archetypal mind seem to have octave wide influence until end on octave.

Seems 22 archetypes (maximum) is due to veil.

How many archetypes are possible in 4D and beyond?

[JustLikeYou]

Consider, apeiron, that the mind is that which knows. Now imagine the mind/body/spirit complex as a machine. The mind is that which contains the information about the machine, but it is only one of the three major parts. There is information about the body and the spirit, but since these parts of the machine do not process knowledge, they cannot know about themselves. Only the mind can know anything about them.

Ra says that the harvest of the previous octave was this: awareness of the efficiency of the mind/body/spirit construct for experience, and awareness of the further subdivision of these three into potentiator, matrix and significator as a process of evolutionary experience. This suggests to me that this basic structure of the Archetypical mind permeates the entire Octave and not just 3D. However, I would suggest that we cannot really guess the specifics of the Archetypical Mind of other densities since we are not currently experiencing them.

[Don't Panic!]

Firstly, thank you for taking the time for posting all these observations and for all the thoughtful replies.

I have some questions regarding the matrix and potentiater.

1.
For the matrix of the mind (masculine) ra says it is seen to reach out while the Potentiator of mind (feminine) is seen to await the reaching.

in 92.20 "In a more general sense, that which reaches may be seen as a male principle. That which awaits the reaching may be seen as a female principle."

Above you mention:
So the Matrix is that part of the Significator which receives the imprint of the Potentiator. The Potentiator is that part of the Significator which projects that which is to be experienced upon the Matrix. The Matrix is the screen, the Potentiator is the signal, the Significator is the eye.

I was under the impression the matrix of mind was more of an output so it wouldn't receive. and the potentiator would instead receive. Or is what your saying different in that you're referring to a part of the significator and not the matrix of mind on it's own? Any way to further articulate you thoughts here would be helpful.

2. We know that when Don asks about the differences of male and female. ra says "When the veiling process was accomplished, to the male polarity was attracted the Matrix of the Mind and to the female, the Potentiator of the Mind, to the male the Potentiator of the Body, to the female the Matrix of the Body."

So the sexual polarity of the matrix and potentiator of the mind and body are reversed. My question is what do you think the sexual polarity of the spirit archetypes of Matrix and potentiator would be? are they more unified or do you feel they still subscribe to male and female charateristics.

I would think the matrix of spirit would be Feminine based of what Ra says in:

78.11
"The Matrix of the Spirit is what you may call the Night of the Soul or Primeval Darkness. Again we have that which is not capable of movement or work. The potential power of this extremely receptive matrix is such that the potentiator may be seen as Lightning."

I only say this because i'm going off the nature of the matrix of spirit as that of being receptive rather than that of "reaching or doing."

Any thoughts?

Love and Light

Ken

[JustLikeYou]

Your question is very clear, Ken. Thank you for that. I am aware that my responses are often less than clear. Perhaps this is as it ought to be since each archetype must be viewed uniquely by each being.

First, just to be clear, I'll address the gender associations of the archetypes.

88.24 "When, at length, the student had mastered these visualizations and had considered each of the seven classifications of archetype, looking at the relationships between mind, body, and spirit, we then suggested consideration of archetypes in pairs: one and two; three and four; five; six and seven. You may continue in this form for the body and spirit archetypes. You will note that the consideration of the Significator was left unpaired, for the Significator shall be paired with Archetype Twenty-Two."

Therefore, I have taken the Significators and The Choice to be without a prevailing gender.

Mind
Matrix: Male
Potentiator: Female
Catalyst: Female
Experience: Male
Transformation: Female
Great Way: Male

Body
Matrix: Female
Potentiator: Male
Catalyst: Male
Experience: Female
Transformation: Female
Great Way: Male

(My mind can be swayed as regards the transformation and great way of the body because I am inclined to think that the Body Cycle ought to mirror the Mind Cycle. However, when I view these archetypes, I still see the transformation as female and the great way as male.)

Spirit
Matrix: Female
Potentiator: Male
Catalyst: Female
Experience: Male
Transformation: Male
Great Way: Female


With all of that said, you can now see that the only male matrix is the Magician and the only female potentiator is the High priestess. In general, the matrix has a somewhat female function and the potentiator a somewhat male function because a matrix is something which receives and a potentiator is something which gives. It is exactly this unique situation which led me to decide to create threads dedicated to Archetypes 1 and 2, rather than merely glossing over all of the first 7 archetypes in a single thread. My solution to this conundrum has been to imagine the sexual interplay between the Magician and High Priestess. The Magician is immobile and can be imagined as an "unmoved mover" to use a technical term which Ra endorses (though in a different context). The High Priestess is therefore that which moves, but she must move in response to the "reaching" of the Magician. It is the orb which I have viewed as the instrument of reaching; in fact, I have imagined that this orb is the phallus of the Magician and the High Priestess will only rest herself upon this phallus when the will of the Magician is set (and the orb is thus aglow).

You see, the Mind will have no new thought unless the unconscious mind grants it, for all that is new to the conscious mind comes from the unconscious mind in some way. Thus, although the Magician is that which receives information from the High Priestess, he will only receive what he reaches for. By extension, the Experience of the Mind, the Emperor, who is the Matrix now informed, will only acquire what he takes hold of.

I find that because these Archetypes are concept complexes, it is important to remember that the male and the female principles wind, flow and intermingle throughout all archetypes, regardless of the prevailing gender association. Just consider the Sun card (Significator of the Spirit). This card is rife with sexual symbolism and yet it has no prevailing gender.

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JustLikeYou --Thank you thank you. Wow. I read the classifications as I was having some trouble really understanding the Significator. I figured out a way to print this (yay!). I actually hate reading on the computer.

[JustLikeYou]

Glad to be of service! In fact, it is worth mentioning that I stopped writing Archetype threads when I had completed my thoughts for Archetype 12, the Significator of the Body. I was highly displeased with this writeup because I realized that there was a major aspect of this Archetype that I had not yet worked out and I did not want to create more confusion around it. This file is still sitting on my harddrive waiting to be looked at again.

This is the issue: Ra says that the veiling process was an act that made the Significator complex, which allowed the possibility of Creator vs. Creator. Later, Ra says that this process began as a veiling between the Matrix and Potentiator of the Mind. But it is immediately mentioned that making the Significator of the Mind complex rendered the Significators of Body and Spirit complex also. The purpose of separating the Mind was so that the mind could "become what it is not", which is the fundamental principle of Creatorhood. Consequently, the conundrum I was left with is this: Is the mind the only Significator which creates? Or do the other two Significators also create? The answer to this question will also answer the other question I have: In the experience of Creator vs. Creator, is it Mind vs. Body (or Spirit), or is it Mind vs. M/B/S complex as a unit (what Ra calls an "entity")? I do not want to get too deep into this question, but my contemplation leads me to believe that the mind is a creator in a way that the body and spirit alone are not. This act of creation we call the ego-self, and what it creates is a belief system. This belief system can be either true or false. If it is true, the ego-self returns the Creative powers to the entity as a whole. If it is false, the ego-self keeps its creative powers and explores them further.