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    05-20-2012, 02:27 AM (This post was last modified: 05-20-2012, 02:30 AM by Confused.)
    (05-14-2012, 08:27 AM)Valtor Wrote: Just FYI, the Aurore story you linked to comes from this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurore_Gagnon. This tragedy happened here in Québec. Not pretty.

    Hi, Valtor, thanks for pointing it out, my friend.

    It certainly is not pretty. Even though all is one, it would have been good if there was some transparent justice operating in the world.
    (05-19-2012, 02:05 PM)Meerie Wrote:

    C, you might be interested in this... Rupert Sheldrake talks about NDEs, telepathy, etc.
    Hope you are doing fine, have not seen you around
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    Hello, Meerie, thanks for the video. If you have flagged it up to my attention, then it must contain something that I normally research upon. I am going to find out what that spiritual message is!
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    05-20-2012, 02:24 PM (This post was last modified: 05-20-2012, 06:49 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    Wow Confused, I just went through an intense experience these last couple of weeks. A spiritual/religious crisis it was. I had to find the truth of what I truly believe. I've been as high as an angel ascending into heaven, and as low as a lost soul being pulled into a black hole of sin for eternal sepration from God, and many things in between. I fought with everything I had till I was weary, and only Love pulled me through.

    Now, as I write, there is a whole nother degree of peace and calm about me. Things seem to go right, the world just feels right. I just don't know if I'm dead or alive, is the feeling I get. It's a strange feeling. Though I intuitively know I'm still alive. I am living now based on how I feel. I had a crisis around Jesus and the cross before setting now more on zen buddhism which I am wanting to learn. There are some catalyst as well, such as I was carrying a desk with someone that just fell apart on me and popped me in the head.

    My life sort of now is like that last line of the Tale of Desperaux. "We could say that it was happily ever after, but where's the fun in that?"

    I feel like a kid again, like as if I were 14 years old. It's an amazing feeling. I went hiking with another family, probably around 5 miles and I wasn't even worn out. I played with the other children at the jungle gym they had there. I climbed up, slid down the slide like a child. I've probably spent a few hours on the swings too. It's such an amazing and freeing feeling. The more I let go of my beliefs, the more synchronistic becomes my life. There's still that mystery about whether I'm alive or not, since I did "experience" a death. If this is 4D, I can certainly say it's 100X more harmonious like Ra said. But I really don't use that name anymore.

    The stress of everyday life has dropped to zero pretty much and I don't worry really anymore. I told God the other day "I love God so much" and I shed a slow tear. God is the One Infinite Creator, but the name God to me seems much more fatherly. Though I think I'm coming down from my spiritual high.

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    05-21-2012, 01:03 AM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2012, 01:46 AM by Confused.)
    (05-20-2012, 02:24 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I had a crisis around Jesus and the cross before setting now more on zen buddhism which I am wanting to learn.

    Can you help me understand this better, GW? What is the crisis around the holy symbol of the Cross that you are referring to here?

    (05-20-2012, 02:24 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I feel like a kid again, like as if I were 14 years old. It's an amazing feeling. I went hiking with another family, probably around 5 miles and I wasn't even worn out. I played with the other children at the jungle gym they had there. I climbed up, slid down the slide like a child. I've probably spent a few hours on the swings too. It's such an amazing and freeing feeling. The more I let go of my beliefs, the more synchronistic becomes my life. There's still that mystery about whether I'm alive or not, since I did "experience" a death. If this is 4D, I can certainly say it's 100X more harmonious like Ra said. But I really don't use that name anymore.

    Now, now, you are making me jealous with all that fun. You should invite me to your jungle farmhouse now! BigSmile

    GW, I thank you for taking the time to personally address me and tell me your wonderful experiences. I want this thread to turn into a rest house for those weary of their life experiences, for that was what I am doing. If people can come here and freely discuss the pains and sorrows of their life and balance that with the joys and the uplifting promises of the purposeful service-to-others spiritual life, then I would consider that the thread has served a great purpose.

    I think this is a very useful piece from the LOO, in terms of understanding the nature of space/time and time/space

    Quote:57.33 Questioner: Thank you. I want to go on with more questioning on the pyramid, but I want to ask a question that (name) has here. I’ll throw it in at this point. Could you please expand on the concept of space/time and time/space and how to get past this concept and what density level do these concepts no longer affect the individual?

    Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working. This instrument has some vital energy left. However, we become concerned with the increasing distortions of the body complex towards pain.

    The space/time and time/space concepts are those concepts describing as mathematically as possible the relationships of your illusion, that which is seen to that which is unseen. These descriptive terms are clumsy. They, however, suffice for this work.

    In the experiences of the mystical search for unity, these need never be considered, for they are but part of an illusory system. The seeker seeks the One. This One is to be sought, as we have said, by the balanced and self-accepting self, aware both of its apparent distortions and its total perfection. Resting in this balanced awareness, the entity then opens the self to the universe which it is. The light energy of all things may then be attracted by this intense seeking, and wherever the inner seeking meets the attracted cosmic prana, realization of the One takes place.

    The purpose of clearing each energy center is to allow that meeting place to occur at the indigo-ray vibration, thus making contact with intelligent infinity and dissolving all illusions. Service-to-others is automatic at the released energy generated by this state of consciousness.

    The space/time and time/space distinctions, as you understand them, do not hold sway except in third density. However, fourth, fifth, and to some extent, sixth, work within some system of polarized space/time and time/space.

    The calculations necessary to move from one system to another through the dimensions are somewhat difficult. Therefore, we have the most difficulty sharing numerical concepts with you and take this opportunity to repeat our request that you monitor our numbers and query any that seem questionable.

    Is there a brief query that we may answer before we leave this instrument?

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    05-21-2012, 02:22 AM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2012, 02:28 AM by Confused.)
    Quote:10.9 Questioner: When graduation occurs at the end of a cycle, and entities are moved from one planet to another, by what means do they go to a new planet?

    Ra: I am Ra. In the scheme of the Creator, the first step of the mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness is to place its mind/body/spirit complex distortion in the proper place of love/light. This is done to ensure proper healing of the complex and eventual attunement with the totality/beingness complex. This takes a very variable length of your time/space. After this is accomplished the experience of the cycle is dissolved and filtered until only the distillation of distortions in its pure form remains. At this time, the harvested mind/body/spirit/totality/beingness evaluates the density needs of its beingness and chooses the more appropriate new environment for either a repetition of the cycle or a moving forward into the next cycle. This is the manner of the harvesting, guarded and watched over by many.
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    (05-21-2012, 01:03 AM)Confused Wrote: GW, I thank you for taking the time to personally address me and tell me your wonderful experiences. I want this thread to turn into a rest house for those weary of their life experiences, for that was what I am doing. If people can come here and freely discuss the pains and sorrows of their life and balance that with the joys and the uplifting promises of the purposeful service-to-others spiritual life, then I would consider that the thread has served a great purpose.

    Awwww that is so lovely!
    THANK YOU !
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    05-21-2012, 11:33 AM (This post was last modified: 05-21-2012, 11:54 AM by Confused.)
    (05-21-2012, 02:40 AM)Meerie Wrote:
    (05-21-2012, 01:03 AM)Confused Wrote: GW, I thank you for taking the time to personally address me and tell me your wonderful experiences. I want this thread to turn into a rest house for those weary of their life experiences, for that was what I am doing. If people can come here and freely discuss the pains and sorrows of their life and balance that with the joys and the uplifting promises of the purposeful service-to-others spiritual life, then I would consider that the thread has served a great purpose.

    Awwww that is so lovely!
    THANK YOU !
    Heart Smile

    Thank you, Meerie. Are you going to the Homecoming?

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    05-22-2012, 05:23 PM (This post was last modified: 05-22-2012, 05:37 PM by AnthroHeart.)
    (05-21-2012, 01:03 AM)Confused Wrote: Can you help me understand this better, GW? What is the crisis around the holy symbol of the Cross that you are referring to here?

    Well, there was something still in me that since I hadn't followed the cross of Christ and that religion, that I was being judged by God having died. I experienced moments of hell, that were created by a part of me. It was a little scary when I felt like I was being strangled by an unseen force, and also had the smell of poo in the air that sort of gagged me. But it was my own self that brought these on. Not like I tried to produce them, but afterwards it made sense why this hell part of me came about. It was the part of me that thought himself unworthy.

    Then there were other positive experiences such as seeing the trees come alive. Their leaves and branches very distinctly appeared to mimic certain animals, and there were faces in the trees that smiled at me. The wind blew the trees and it was a very relaxing time. Very peaceful. The trees were telling me stories through the characters that were portrayed in their branches. This was my favorite part of the whole experience. One tree could have 20 or more animal characters formed from the branches/leaves, and sometimes they talked but there was no sound yet.

    Being a kid was fun. It's I think what happens when you begin to peek through the veil. I'm not sure really though. But in this state I was just who I am, with no real direction, so I needed guidance from other adults. In fact I took guidance from other kids as well because I felt so innocent that I couldn't make my own decisions. I still have somewhat of the feeling of being in heaven, but it's fading, and I'm returning to normal life. I'm sad to see the feeling go.

    It gave me a taste of what 4D could be like, where the trees even talk to us like telling us stories. The shadows of trees on the outdoor wall also morphed and formed images of animal characters. It demonstrated to me what I'm passionate about. There were even cartoon characters in the rocks, and the plants on the ground. The whole world around me was full of life.

    Honestly though, words fail me with how amazing it is to feel the oneness with all the life around you as it responds to you, and wants to show you many things. If only I could reach that state without having the negative stuff. But I guess negative greetings come with it. I'm not sure how all that works. But how equally amazing was the good experience, were the horrors of the negativity. They sort of balanced themselves out.

    (05-21-2012, 01:03 AM)Confused Wrote: Now, now, you are making me jealous with all that fun. You should invite me to your jungle farmhouse now! BigSmile

    GW, I thank you for taking the time to personally address me and tell me your wonderful experiences. I want this thread to turn into a rest house for those weary of their life experiences, for that was what I am doing. If people can come here and freely discuss the pains and sorrows of their life and balance that with the joys and the uplifting promises of the purposeful service-to-others spiritual life, then I would consider that the thread has served a great purpose.

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    (05-22-2012, 05:23 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The whole world around me was full of life.

    That pretty much sums up the LOO very beautifully, I think Smile Wonderful to read your experiences, GW. May you live well and long to inspire others on the spiritual path!
    Quote:61.3 Questioner: Can you expand on what you meant by the “cycling in-streamings of energy”?

    Ra: I am Ra. There are four types of cycles which are those given in the moment of entry into incarnation. There are in addition more cosmic and less regularized in-pourings which, from time to time, affect a sensitized mind/body/spirit complex. The four rhythms are, to some extent, known among your peoples and are called bio-rhythms.

    There is a fourth cycle which we may call the cycle of gateway of magic of the adept or of the spirit. This is a cycle which is completed in approximately eighteen of your diurnal cycles.

    The cosmic patterns are also a function of the moment of incarnative entrance and have to do with your satellite you call the moon, your planets of this galaxy, the galactic sun, and in some cases the in-streamings from the major galactic points of energy flow.


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    The song of the Butterfly -- play with your heart and not your fingers
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    This has some very good points to ponder over, though it seems to have been done facetiously
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    Most excellent.
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    The Message from Mother Earth drumming is quite interesting to me. I frequently hear/feel a similar drumming sound (though not as pronounced as in this vid) while working in the garden or sitting under my trees.

    Thank you, again, Confused!
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    (06-06-2012, 11:36 AM)Ruth Wrote: I frequently hear/feel a similar drumming sound (though not as pronounced as in this vid) while working in the garden or sitting under my trees

    May be mother Earth is reaching out to one of her dear daughters, so that she can remember her mission! Smile


    Quote:57.24 Questioner: By saying that the Queen’s Chamber was the initiatory place, could you tell me what you mean by that?

    Ra: I am Ra. This question is a large one. We cannot describe initiation in its specific sense due to our distortion towards the belief/understanding that the process which we offered so many of your years ago was not a balanced one.

    However, you are aware of the concept of initiation and realize that it demands the centering of the being upon the seeking of the Creator. We have hoped to balance this understanding by enunciating the Law of One, that is, that all things are One Creator. Thus seeking the Creator is done not just in meditation and the work of an adept but in the experiential nexus of each moment.

    The initiation of Queen’s Chamber has to do with the abandoning of self to such desire to know the Creator in full that the purified in-streaming light is drawn in balanced fashion through all energy centers, meeting in indigo and opening the gate to intelligent infinity. Thus the entity experiences true life or, as your people call it, resurrection.

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    Smile Heart
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    Confused,

    Bashar talks about in one of his videos about becoming one with the One.

    "Even when you become one with the One, you will experience yourself as the One. You will still be you."

    I like that.

    From here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyRh_zgbF...re=related
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    (06-10-2012, 07:42 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Confused,

    Bashar talks about in one of his videos about becoming one with the One.

    "Even when you become one with the One, you will experience yourself as the One. You will still be you."

    I like that.

    From here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyRh_zgbF...re=related

    Yes, it is my understanding that your personality changes always and so you do not disappear, you simply become once again the One. But your Self does not loose the sense of Self ever. We just change into the One little by little.
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    I assume that after becoming the One, is the next Octave of mystery.

    BTW Meerie, that video on meditating has really helped me. I don't try to meditate now, I realize I AM meditation.
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    (06-10-2012, 12:56 PM)Meerie Wrote:

    Smile Heart

    Thank you for this beautiful video, Meerie. Thank you very much.

    On the subject of staying in the moment, I often feel that personally in my case, it is a case of the spirit being willing, but the flesh being weak. Probably that is why I find it difficult to meditate.

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    Yeah but she says it doesn't really matter... even if there are thoughts, don't push them away.
    Love them.
    It is more about letting go, than actually accomplishing something.
    These holy women that are depicted seem to be from India, do you recognize any of them?
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    (06-11-2012, 09:32 AM)Meerie Wrote: Yeah but she says it doesn't really matter... even if there are thoughts, don't push them away.
    Love them.
    It is more about letting go, than actually accomplishing something.
    These holy women that are depicted seem to be from India, do you recognize any of them?

    There were two people in that video, I guess, The two are --

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anandamayi_Ma

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Amritanandamayi
    (06-10-2012, 07:42 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Confused,

    Bashar talks about in one of his videos about becoming one with the One.

    "Even when you become one with the One, you will experience yourself as the One. You will still be you."

    I like that.

    From here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyRh_zgbF...re=related

    Wow, GW, this Bashar video is a treasure. So many great ideas in it, like imagining the singular point traveling at speeds of infinity, creating physical symbolic representations of our mental visions for reality, etc. A great video and wonderful nuggets of wisdom within. Thank you, GW.



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    Thanks for the info, I think a friend of mine had Darshan with Amma once and was very impressed. Will ask her
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    Freedom from suffering is every person's right.

    Love and light!
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    (06-18-2012, 12:39 PM)Ruth Wrote: Freedom from suffering is every person's right.

    Love and light!

    Equally importantly, it is also every individual's responsibility, as the presenter goes on to say. In Ra's parlance, it is a right/responsibility issue. Smile


    http://www.livescience.com/20753-quantum...-life.html
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    http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...ntum-world
    http://www.templeton.org/what-we-fund/gr...-free-will
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    06-20-2012, 09:24 PM
    This has all been said before, about reality being an illusion, but I thought it was a good collection of quotes.

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    http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/2012_3.html

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    This thread is like a lovely colorful kaleidoscope
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    (06-20-2012, 09:25 PM)Confused Wrote: http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/2012_3.html

    Interesting that you posted this today. I have been receiving "messages" from birds and other flying creatures this week. Crows, an owl, a hawk, bumblebees and dragonflies. I haven't quite been able to decipher the messages, but I believe the article you posted is related somehow and that it is right on target.

    Thank you, Confused, for your perception.

    Love and light!
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