Carla's Explanation of All

[Shin'Ar]

On Carla's show Friday night she had made a statement about The All and The One.

This is a paraphrase so I stand to be corrected.

Just because we are the creator at work, does not mean that we can turn that around to mean that we are the Creator.

This addresses a theme I see taking place here in our community often.


She also spoke to the process of being which I often point to.

Again paraphrasing, she basically said that at any time the universe,(and in this context she means The All, not some omiverse or sub logos,) could be pulled out from under us and we would no longer be walking on a path where our feet choose to tread, but we are instead dancing according to the very specific energies of the Divine design which is not in our control.

So basically I interpret that to mean that we are not the Creator, and there are forces beyond our abilities which lord over us at all times.


I would alter that somewhat by saying that rather dancing on uncontrolled pathways/energies, we are balancing extreme Mystery to whatever degree we are able so that we are not existing in any extreme circumstance throughout the course of our existence.

Yes, the power of creation is not ours in the sense of the All and Divine Design, BUT balancing and surviving the extremity of such Mystery is our creation.

Perfect balance is impossible because we are NOT the Creator and do not have such power. But when we achieve a semblance of balance which manifests as an environment in which we are not subjected to extremity, then we become the creators of THAT semblance.

And THIS is what some here are referring to when they speak of illusion and perceptions.

However, such is not actual illusion. It is perception.

And perception is individual based upon the understanding and ability of that individual.

This does not create The All, it adds to the All as individual experience via the Divine Design, and the Process of Being. Both of which were established far beyond our capabilities.

This 'dancing around the Divine energies' that Carla has pointed us to, clearly reveals that she understands the true process as being one established long before the dancer which engages it.

There is The Composer which establishes the Sound/Song, and the elements which partake in the process of moving with the song, resulting in the memorial Dance.

Creator-Process-Creation

We simply cannot turn that around to imply that our participation as dancers creating the dance, somehow now makes us The Composer.

What are your thoughts on Carla's wisdom? I did not hear the entirety of the show and hope that I did not miss something that would reconfigure what I thought she was expressing.

[Shin'Ar]

Strange after all the discussion around All is One, and the many efforts to suggest that it means we are the Creator, that now that Carla has made her understanding clear no one wants to tackle it further.

[AnthroHeart]

I understood that we are a spark of the Creator, and that we will one day merge back with Creator. Then, we become Creator. Isn't 7th density the gateway back to Creator.

[Sagittarius]

I think I get what your saying, how is it different to anything that has been commonly talked about on this forum?

[Monica]

Here is the Q'uote:

Q’uo,
September 25, 2010:

You, my friends, are deep-sea divers. You are not satisfied to skitter across the ocean of life like a dragonfly. You dive deep and you seek the highest and best truth you can find. And eventually you pierce the veil of otherness and begin to feel the threads of commonality that lie behind the shapes of judgment.
This unity is for all of you. And yet it does not keep you from being an individual. Every choice you have made in every incarnation goes into the personality you chose for this incarnation. My friends, it is as if you took a suitcase, not a large suitcase but an overnight bag—it’s a small stay, one incarnation, after all. You do not need much—a few gifts, a few relationships. You pack your bag.
You pack your limitations, you pack your challenges and you set out to plunge into a dark world, for the sun may shine upon the Earth but in terms of spiritual seeking, all is in darkness. Nothing can be seen. Nothing can be known or proved, and it is up to you to disengage yourself from your culture, your parenting, your hard-learned lessons of fitting in, to become, as this instrument was saying, a witness to yourself.
It is not that you are a witness. You are you. It is that when you witness your own life, it gives you a sense of proportion. This instrument often, in challenging circumstances, creates a cartoon in her mind and then busies herself by putting the right caption under it to make herself laugh. The more ways that you have of lifting yourself away from the impulsivity of quick emotion, and touching into that Balm of Gilead which is the underlying self that is one with the Creator, the more riches your incarnation shall have for you.
Unity is the deepest and most profound truth that we know. You are all the Creator. Do not turn it around and try to say that the Creator is all of you, for the Creator is infinite. If the Creator was not infinite the Creation would not be one.

[βαθμιαίος]

Just because we are the creator at work, does not mean that we can turn that around to mean that we are the Creator.

Unity is the deepest and most profound truth that we know. You are all the Creator. Do not turn it around and try to say that the Creator is all of you, for the Creator is infinite. If the Creator was not infinite the Creation would not be one.

These two statements are not identical. As I understand the Q'uote, it's saying that the Creator is infinite, not many. It doesn't contradict Ra's statement that "[i]n each infinitesimal part of your self resides the One in all of Its power."

[anagogy]

I think the key thing of importance is to realize that our individuated personality -- our ego -- is merely a portion or facet of the creator. It is merely a lens the creator is looking at the world through. In truth, there are no individuated egos, as this is the illusion. Separation cannot actually be true, only unity can. Therefore, it is the solipsism that is to be avoided, as it is a negative concept which exalts the ego.

Even the definition of solipsism needs clarification which essentially is: the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist. In a certain sense, the self *IS* all that can be known to exist, but which self are we talking about? The self that is the creator is the macrocosmic Self, not the microcosmic reflection we identify as our personalities.

So, in summary if you say you are the creator, the correctness of that statement is variable and dependent on your understanding of the illusory nature of all separation. For all is one, and there is a "whole in every part" nature to the creation. One must understand that though they are the creator, they are no more creator than anyone or anything else.

[zenmaster]

"Ego" can work both ways - exhalt or deny. So one must understand that though they are the creator, they are no less creator than anyone or anything else.

[godwide_void]

To acknowledge oneself as being one with the One Infinite Creator, of sharing one's essence with the Source which generated it, of having as the deepest core identity of the self the Creator, as being a lower manifestation of the Creator, of being another form out of countless others which It has taken, is correct and is the base liberty which all beings who become aware of this truth are entitled to. All which has awareness is a conduit for It to accumulate experience with and exist through.

However, for a human being to declare oneself as the One Infinite Creator is, in Its total stature is, as you said Shin'Ar, the height of pompous arrogance and an impossible notion considering the implications such a statement holds. The human being is a temporary form; it is mortal, confined to physicality, subject to karmic retribution, imprisoned by fluctuating circumstances which oftentimes seemingly do not play out in one's favor. The human being is subject to disease, to momentary lapses of reason, of creating error through the venue of the ego, of being driven along by one's carnal impulses, appeasing the anatomy and adjusting to one's physical environment for the purpose of physical survival.

While it is the One Infinite Creator which experiences all of these, It in Its totality, Its ultimate form, is not enraptured or limited by these things. The One Infinite Creator does not require a bathroom break, nor does the sway of events pin the Creator down. It has not only manifested us all as the forms It uses to perform upon its microcosmic stage, It has constructed the very fabric of existence which we are embedded within. Not only would we not have computers to be accessing this forum or any sort of mental faculty to sustain our capacity to communicate with one another or possess any type of understanding to dwell within our mind, we would have no awareness to direct and no canvas of space to apply our awareness to if we were not woven into the quilt of consciousness which is the natural byproduct of Its beingness.

There is absolutely no individualized lower field of consciousness which is responsible for the generation of the entirety of the ground of consciousness, nor is there any one lower field of consciousness which possesses the attributes of omnipotence, omnipresence, omniscience, and omniawareness, for these are characteristics of the Source field and the Source field alone. The Creator prides the humble and humbles the proud; it would be wise for no puppet to mistake itself as being the puppet master.

As you pointed out Shin'Ar, irregardless of any advanced understanding any of us may possess or whether our individual consciousnesses have come so far in spiritual evolution as to retain a ranking within the existential hierarchy so high up as to have the conditions of their native spectrum of awareness as dwelling in the awareness of the One Infinite Creator, as we currently exist in these incarnated forms, we are but mere extensions of higher existence and as such are subject to the dominion of forces beyond our control or grasp.

As we are one in essence with the Creator, we may come to develop a conscious relationship and maintain a connection with those forces which are tasked with guiding us and programming our incarnations. We may learn to access and commence a dialogue with our higher dimensional individual selves as well as forge a connection with the Source itself, but despite the fact that any may generate and maintain such a connection, one will always be subject to the obscurity of what lies around each corner as we wade through life. Simply because we may have come to activate our potentials to the point where we may influence the daily circumstances of our incarnations to a great degree through any means of conscious metaphysical configuration, this does not mean that we are in complete control of our realities, as there are dozens of other forces and factors at work which will determine how our existence will unfold.

If someone were to say they were were not subject to forces beyond their control and were indeed able to program the entirety of reality as they saw fit without any repercussions or difficulty, then this would mean that they would be able to directly script every experience which befell them and have all circumstances at their behest, commanding every individual autonomous being to do as they desired, and this would also mean that they would be able to subside the factors of past karmic ripples affecting the present, not be subject to their subconscious distortions actively outputting vibrations which are playing a hand in creating their experiences, and would be overriding the necessity and desire for the experiencing of the pre-programmed lessons that their higher aspect which has imbued a portion of themselves as has planned.

None of us knows how each following day will unfold. We do not know what the weather conditions will be like each moment of the next day. We do not know what fellow characters in consciousness we will encounter, nor how they will interact with us, or us them. We do not know what thoughts we will have the next day, or what ideas will suddenly spring up in our minds at any given time. We do not know what events will arise that we will observe or participate in. We are not aware of the ultimate purpose of our incarnation, why it is and has played out the way it has, and what is pulling our strings and causing us to waltz the way we are. We do not know how long the health of our physical vehicles will last or when we will get a cold. We do not know how long we will sleep or what dreams we have. We do not know the exact time we will awaken in the morning without an alarm clock to wake us.

We do not know the deliberations of our "true" higher dimensional selves prior to incarnation regarding the blueprint of our particular lives, the very specific metaphysical reasons why each of us has come to live, and we do not know when or how we will die. Life is but a journey to the grave, and we are all delivered to the same exact "end". We are subject to birth, to leading a human existence, and we are ultimately subject to physical obliteration, even if the essence which comprises us is eternal and has existed prior to and following our births and deaths respectively, we in this temporary form are subject to these forces and processes which we have no conscious control over, and the best we can do is adjust and work with what we have however we are able to.

It is for these reasons which supplement why no human being can ever declare themselves as THE One Infinite Creator except in the acknowledgement that the Creation is indistinguishable from the Creator. However, no human being alive is aware of the thoughts and experiences of billions of other humans, let alone every single life-form in the entire cosmos. No human being can prevent a meteor shower from crashing into the planet, nor can no human being create new planets or cosmic space in which these events may occur in. Each human being may be in control of their universe to an extent, but no single human being has the capacity to hold dominion over the entire megacosm.

The Void is all which has form.

However, that which has form cannot be the Void, even if what has form knows that, at its core, it is the Void.

[Cyan]

Why not be "The One Infinite Creator". Just dont be all of it.

[Patrick]

Strange after all the discussion around All is One, and the many efforts to suggest that it means we are the Creator, that now that Carla has made her understanding clear no one wants to tackle it further.

I like giving my opinion. But lately, I started refraining from doing so when I do not agree. "What good will my opinion do if I do not agree?" I told myself.

[Meerie]

I like giving my opinion. But lately, I started refraining from doing so when I do not agree. "What good will my opinion do if I do not agree?" I told myself.

that is the harmony trap, imo... disagreeing doesn't necessarily mean confrontation or arguments.
Your thoughts might inspire the person that you disagree with, to think outside the box of his own ideas.
It might inspire others reading it.
For example

[Patrick]

I like giving my opinion. But lately, I started refraining from doing so when I do not agree. "What good will my opinion do if I do not agree?" I told myself.

that is the harmony trap, imo... disagreeing doesn't necessarily mean confrontation or arguments.
Your thoughts might inspire the person that you disagree with, to think outside the box of his own ideas.
It might inspire others reading it.
For example

Thank you my friend, you are right of course. In such cases I listen to my intuition and give my opposing views. It's just that lately my intuition is triggered much less in such circumstances. I take it to mean that others needs the floor and that opposing views will be represented anyway.

[Shin'Ar]

Just because we are the creator at work, does not mean that we can turn that around to mean that we are the Creator.

Unity is the deepest and most profound truth that we know. You are all the Creator. Do not turn it around and try to say that the Creator is all of you, for the Creator is infinite. If the Creator was not infinite the Creation would not be one.

These two statements are not identical. As I understand the Q'uote, it's saying that the Creator is infinite, not many. It doesn't contradict Ra's statement that "[i]n each infinitesimal part of your self resides the One in all of Its power."

It specifically states that the Creator is not all of us. While it states that we are all the Creator.

If you rearrange that we can say that we are all the creator, but we are not each the creator.

And I believe that is the point to be made given that many use such information to support their claims that they have the ability to make mountains in their backyards if they choose to do so.

There is a great difference between understanding the dynamic of The All being of One Manifestation, and the One manifestation being the Design of The One Consciousness, and deluding oneself into believing that must mean that they then are The One Creator.

We are the process of Being. The process at work. We are NOT the Source of that process. we ARE the Process. we are Its vibration.

[Confused]

From 27.4 of the LOO, we have this excerpt --

To define intelligent apart from infinity is difficult, for these two vibration complexes equal one concept. It is much like attempting to divide your sound vibration concept, faith, into two parts.

Just like it is futile to divide the sound vibration concept, faith, into two parts, I think it is futile to divide the concept complex, One Infinite Creator, into component parts. The three individual words in the phrase, One Infinite Creator, equals one concept, characterizing in terms of how Ra conceptualized Intelligent Infinity

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I understood that we are a spark of the Creator, and that we will one day merge back with Creator. Then, we become Creator. Isn't 7th density the gateway back to Creator.

Hi, GW, probably a quote that addresses what you are speaking about

16.22 Questioner: Thank you very much. In previous material, before we communicated with you, it was stated by the Confederation that there is actually no past or future … that all is present. Would this be a good analogy?

Ra: I am Ra. There is past, present, and future in third density. In an overview such as an entity may have, removed from the space/time continuum, it may be seen that in the cycle of completion there exists only the present. We, ourselves, seek to learn this understanding. At the seventh level or dimension, we shall, if our humble efforts are sufficient, become one with all, thus having no memory, no identity, no past or future, but existing in the all.

[βαθμιαίος]

If you rearrange that we can say that we are all the creator, but we are not each the creator.

I think you have that exactly backwards. We are each the creator (because "any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity"), but we are not all the creator (because if you add each of us together you only have many, not infinity).

Do you agree that we each contain the one infinite creator?

And I believe that is the point to be made given that many use such information to support their claims that they have the ability to make mountains in their backyards if they choose to do so.

Here's what Ra says about that:

3.10 ...In the first case only the one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. In the case of mass understanding of unity, each individual may contain an acceptable amount of distortion and yet the mass mind could move mountains.

[Tenet Nosce]

I haven't been around much on B4, so perhaps I have missed some heated discussions. But I'm not sure where there was a supposed contradiction in the first place.

A single cell in my body is still my body. Just not all of my body. It depends on what level one is perceiving, and there are at least seven major levels to perceive from.

If a single cell in my body were to gain sufficient awareness (re-activate all of its DNA), it would be able to exert an influence over the body as a whole. There are both negative and positive manners by which this could potentiate itself.

There only appears to be a contradiction when one is thinking with the "either/or" dualistic part of the brain. There is no contradiction when one is using higher mental faculties.

IMO- this whole "debate" goes back to the conflict over whether God is either immanent in the world or transcendent from it. I say: bad way to frame the question. The answer is both.

According to some perspectives, to say "I am God" or "I am the Creator" is the ultimate blasphemy because there is a mindset which says that God/Creator made the world and "Lords" over it from some point outside of it. Therefore to say "I am God/Creator" is to set oneself above the rest of creation.

The problem with this perspective is that is requires something "Other" from which God/Creator created the Universe. But there is no "Other". There is only God/Creator. Therefore if God/Creator made matter, it must have made it out of itself.

A different perspective sees words like "God" more as a verb, than a noun. God is not some "thing" that sits up on a celestial cloud somewhere, but a process which is always and everywhere occurring.

As with many other clashes of opinion, this particular one occurs when Person A is attempting to interpret Person B's comment in their own contextual frame. The proper light by which to interpret Person B's comments is offered by Person B's contextual frame. Not Person A's contextual frame.

The contextual frame of the L/L Research Material offers that reality is a hologram. Thus, every part is identical to the whole.

IMHO- this is the "Great Mystery" to which all the mystery schools and traditions point to. Some of them just appear to have forgotten their own mysteries. The reason it is a mystery is because the full comprehension of this lies just outside the normal reach of our minds.

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There is a great difference between understanding the dynamic of The All being of One Manifestation, and the One manifestation being the Design of The One Consciousness, and deluding oneself into believing that must mean that they then are The One Creator.

Yes. The difference between these perspectives is exactly what the material refers to as the two paths. What you are referring to as a "delusion" is the negative, or STS, path. It isn't a delusion in the strict sense of the word. However, this particular perspective comes with certain "difficulties" which are not apparent on the positive path.

We are the process of Being. The process at work.

Yes, exactly.

We are NOT the Source of that process. we ARE the Process. we are Its vibration.

I would submit that the apparent separation between the Process and its Source is yet another illusion. To resolve this illusion or paradox would result in a consciousness moving beyond this Octave of Densities.

[Bring4th_Austin]

It specifically states that the Creator is not all of us. While it states that we are all the Creator.

If you rearrange that we can say that we are all the creator, but we are not each the creator.

It seems obvious to me that the particular quote you have hinged this discussion on is simply a commentary on the infinite nature of the Creator, and how infinity cannot many, because many-ness is a finite concept. I believe it is simply a misunderstanding of the semantics.

However, I don't think that this deters from the fruitfulness of this particular discussion. I think it is important to examine the "illusion" that the song we are dancing to is written for us and our participation in creation follows the creation itself. It seems obvious that "there are forces beyond our abilities which lord over us at all times." Yet when we come across information or knowledge that tells us that we are the Creator, and this lights a flame inside of us which sends us on our seeking path, we might get carried away with this concept which we automatically accept as truth.

It is easy to say "All is One, All is the Creator, and thus all is well." If we brush aside and ignore the aspects of our life in which we do not feel like the Creator, I believe we are ignoring the lessons of this density.

If I am the Creator, then what is all of this I am experiencing which I have no knowledge of creating?

Ra said that understanding the Law of One is not of this density, and in fact an entity must realize that it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. I think that what you said here, "we are balancing extreme Mystery to whatever degree we are able so that we are not existing in any extreme circumstance throughout the course of our existence," is a great fraction of our role within this particular reality. If we fool ourselves in removing the factor of Mystery, we may very well be hindering our evolution.

[Shin'Ar]

I think that both Tenet and Austin make my point very clearly where they say this:

TN- “this is the "Great Mystery" to which all the mystery schools and traditions point to. Some of them just appear to have forgotten their own mysteries. The reason it is a mystery is because the full comprehension of this lies just outside the normal reach of our minds.”

Austin- “Ra said that understanding the Law of One is not of this density, and in fact an entity must realize that it does not understand in order for it to be harvestable. I think that what you said here, "we are balancing extreme Mystery to whatever degree we are able so that we are not existing in any extreme circumstance throughout the course of our existence," is a great fraction of our role within this particular reality. If we fool ourselves in removing the factor of Mystery, we may very well be hindering our evolution.”

This is what we seem to keep forgetting in many regards. This aspect of considering ourselves The Creator is just one issue of many where we forget that The One, The All, the Fragment, The Consciousness, and even intelligence, is all Mystery.

The Mystery has not, and will not be solved by enlightened minds claiming their divinity in such a way that they declare themselves to be The Creator.

Tenet spoke of the cell in his body being able to adopt individuality in a sense because all is one.

And this is absolutely true. It is actually manifested often enough as cancer.

But can we expand that thinking to delve a little deeper and consider the ‘process’ or the actual ‘force’ which enables cells to have a mind of their own so to speak. That very thinking should cause us to ask further questions about the powers behind the very Design and Process.
Yes we are all one. But not one Entity; One process. At what point does a process assume an identity?

The only identity we ever really have is that we are The Creator or we are the temporary form, depending on our degree of evolved understanding. the only true identity which ever exists is the One.
But shall the thought process of The One declare itself to be The One from which it proceeds?

This all remains Mystery.

Whether God or man, the answer remains unknown Mystery.

And by that understanding alone, regardless of density, experience or evolved status, no thought process, vibration, fragmented awareness, can declare itself The Creator without denying The Mystery and/or claiming to have solved it.

This is the point I have always been adamant about making. It is not a matter of believing in a God that lords over man, or thinking of God as a hologram of which we are one aspect.

It is simply a matter of Mystery, and whether or not we should assume the arrogant stand of denying it.

[βαθμιαίος]

To me, it's quite a mystery how the whole can reside in the part. "In each infinitesimal part of your self resides the One in all of Its power." How can that be?

Ra said that the understandings they have to share begin and end in mystery, and I certainly agree.

[Shin'Ar]

To me, it's quite a mystery how the whole can reside in the part. "In each infinitesimal part of your self resides the One in all of Its power." How can that be?

Ra said that the understandings they have to share begin and end in mystery, and I certainly agree.

Yes, exactly! Each infinitesimal part, none of which have the identity that you think you have. The infinitesimal all the way down to the Sacred Flame of your being.

The true being is the burning flame of The Source.

[βαθμιαίος]

So is what you're concerned about that people are going to identify their illusory self ("ego") with the Creator?

[Shin'Ar]

So is what you're concerned about that people are going to identify their illusory self ("ego") with the Creator?

Precisely!

In that is one trapped in the cycle of darkness.

[βαθμιαίος]

I think when most people here identify with the Creator it is with a sense of awe, wonder, and humility. I understand your concern, but I think to some extent it may be misplaced. Ra assures us that we are beings of infinite worth, but I don't get the sense that most of those here use that as an excuse to gratify petty whims.

"The indigo ray is opened only through considerable discipline and practice largely having to do with acceptance of self, not only as the polarized and balanced self but as the Creator, as an entity of infinite worth."

Ra call themselves "humble messengers," and I think most of us also feel humble when we consider "the glory, the might, the majesty, the mystery, and the peace of oneness."

[Patrick]

Thinking that I am the Creator is the most humble of experiences indeed.

[Monica]

To me, it's quite a mystery how the whole can reside in the part

Nassim Haramein!

[Diana]

Strange after all the discussion around All is One, and the many efforts to suggest that it means we are the Creator, that now that Carla has made her understanding clear no one wants to tackle it further.

I like giving my opinion. But lately, I started refraining from doing so when I do not agree. "What good will my opinion do if I do not agree?" I told myself.

I have not heard the radio show as yet. Sounds interesting.

My feeling on this issue (original source and us) is that we could think of it as fractal geometry, or as a holographic plate.

If you cut a holographic plate in 2, the entire image is still on each piece. You can cut it again and again, and the entire image is still on the cut piece no matter how small it gets. Yet as the piece is divided, the image becomes more indistinct. In this way, we are part of the original source, and the original source.

Fractals are similar: if you look at broccoli, you will find the entire stalk is repeated pattern-wise in each flowerette, and within the flowerette you will see tiny flowerettes of the exact same pattern; and this repeats and repeats. Inversely, this is how the broccoli grows, in this fractal way, which is related mathematically to the fibonacci sequence.

[Patrick]

Strange after all the discussion around All is One, and the many efforts to suggest that it means we are the Creator, that now that Carla has made her understanding clear no one wants to tackle it further.

I like giving my opinion. But lately, I started refraining from doing so when I do not agree. "What good will my opinion do if I do not agree?" I told myself.

I have not heard the radio show as yet. Sounds interesting.

My feeling on this issue (original source and us) is that we could think of it as fractal geometry, or as a holographic plate.

If you cut a holographic plate in 2, the entire image is still on each piece. You can cut it again and again, and the entire image is still on the cut piece no matter how small it gets. Yet as the piece is divided, the image becomes more indistinct. In this way, we are part of the original source, and the original source.

Fractals are similar: if you look at broccoli, you will find the entire stalk is repeated pattern-wise in each flowerette, and within the flowerette you will see tiny flowerettes of the exact same pattern; and this repeats and repeats. Inversely, this is how the broccoli grows, in this fractal way, which is related mathematically to the fibonacci sequence.

Indeed.

"Each piece of a hologram contains a particular perspective of the image, but it includes the entire object."

At the University of Paris, a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and forth, but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.

[godwide_void]

To me, it's quite a mystery how the whole can reside in the part. "In each infinitesimal part of your self resides the One in all of Its power." How can that be?

Ra said that the understandings they have to share begin and end in mystery, and I certainly agree.

Yes, exactly! Each infinitesimal part, none of which have the identity that you think you have. The infinitesimal all the way down to the Sacred Flame of your being.

The true being is the burning flame of The Source.

Indeed, what glorious paradox it is that all things and beings dwell within the One and the One dwells within all things and beings! In our core essence we are congruent to the Creator and yet in terms of awareness, form and attributes we are not yet compatible with being entirely considered the quintessential Being for still we reside in such forms and are moreso as molecules within Its anatomy.

I am still curious what comes to the minds of all others who acknowledge themselves as or one with the Creator. What is envisioned when you give rise to such a concept in your perspectives? Do you imagine your awareness and observation as simply being linked to a formless wave of consciousness which pervades everything you see and don't see around you, that your formless nature is simply confined and guided along within a physical contraption?

Or do you envision the paradox that burrowed far deep within yourselves, in the seemingly small space in which your mind is contained, that deeply and distantly within lies the true infinite One directing, navigating and watching through your existence, experiencing your experiences and that you are no more than a mere "existence node" which has given rise to you as a chesspiece, a chesspiece with autonomous sentience that actually moves itself along a vast chessboard?

I'm especially curious as to what those who only have the concept of the Creator as an intellectually-devised reference point are all identifying with, or what visual image has been created using your musings within your imaginations as to what this Creator you're equating yourselves to actually is?

What, in your minds, is the original total hologram that you are proclaiming you are a fractal component of?

[AnthroHeart]

When I see myself as Creator, I try to express love and humility. I can't answer these larger questions about what it is we are part of. What fractal part of the whole am I really? Even without the veil I am not sure if we'd have the answer. There is always mystery. Even understanding myself is mystery. Creator is all things, so I am all things, we are all things. But this has been said over and over again on the forum. I am not saying anything new. Whatever we discover has been learned before.
I think we are limited by our consciousness. The greater our consciousness or awareness, the greater our realization of being that spark of Creator. I think as we approach Creator, we become more of it, while at the same time we are all of it. Therein lies the paradox. Paradoxes used to scare me. But the mystery keeps experience alive. It keeps us from breaking through the illusion, and able to experience something. Merging back with Creator as Infinity, we no longer experience.