03-12-2015, 01:55 PM
(03-12-2015, 07:19 AM)dreamliner Wrote:(03-12-2015, 05:01 AM)AngelofDeath Wrote: You seem to be pretty versed in negative tactics it seems, that's disconcerting. Of course, you will insist your explanation is correct...
It appears to me that you simply have a fear of being mislead. It seems you place the positive purely in the role of the victim, suggesting the individual would have no influence over the manifestation of their own life events.
It seems that you would be much more happy, if nobody has confronted your insubstantial "wisdom".
I can make reliable extrapolations with little or no past experience; so, one do not need to have a fear of anything to talk about the negative path.
No, I just place the negative in the role of lunatic/invader/aggressor/selfish etc. etc. To repeat, I say that the negative path tries to manipulate and deceive in order to have influence over the manifestation of other individuals' "life events", to service himself/herself in the grand scheme.
(03-12-2015, 05:01 AM)AngelofDeath Wrote: I associate free will with the fool. Sometimes the fool is misled. This isn't an atrocity, it is part of the fool learning wisdom and discernment. With no freedom to be misled, we would all be held by the hands and guided through every action. Some desire this, others don't. The freedom to mislead is a puzzle piece to the freedom to be misled. Without our fallibility, we would not expand and grow. Without our freedom to be infringed upon, we would never learn to protect ourselves, or the value of our free will. That is what the dynamic between negative and positive reveals - self-value and value of other selves.
That's another overinterpretation/misinterpretation/misrepresentation. There are visual aids or training aids for the fool/adept; movies, books, plays, games, meditation can all be regarded as visual/training aids. One need not to experience everything by intensely involving in.
Quote:47.6 Questioner: Well, what I was actually asking was if 50% is required for graduation from third to fourth in the positive sense, 95% is required for graduation in the negative sense, does this have to more closely approach 100% in both cases for graduation from fourth to fifth? Does an entity have to be 99% polarized for negative and maybe 80% polarized for positive graduation from fourth to fifth?
Ra: I am Ra. We perceive the query now.
To give this in your terms is misleading for there are, shall we say, visual aids or training aids available in fourth density which automatically aid the entity in polarization while cutting down extremely upon the quick effect of catalyst. Thus the density above yours must take up more space/time.
The percentage of service to others of positively oriented entities will harmoniously approach 98% in intention. The qualifications for fifth density, however, involve understanding. This then, becomes the primary qualification for graduation from fourth to fifth density. To achieve this graduation the entity must be able to understand the actions, the movements, and the dance. There is no percentage describable which measures this understanding. It is a measure of efficiency of perception. It may be measured by light. The ability to love, accept, and use a certain intensity of light thus creates the requirement for both positive and negative fourth to fifth harvesting.
Pretty much all you've said here is "I'm right, you're wrong." Great argument, bud. You've got all the wisdom, to be sure. You're basically just saying your interpretation is correct because it's correct. Those quotes don't in any way support your argument... just kinda being dogmatic. Actually, if I look at the words of Ra, I don't see Ra anywhere labeling and slandering the negative path, so clearly we have a different approach to this whole subject.
Yes, so there are visual aids? And? So that's the path for all? Only one way, right? You don't think visual aids can be misleading too? You don't think there is any foolishness in learning beyond 3D? Not really sure how this suggestion encompasses the thought I have put out.
Go ahead, confront away. Just because you say, "this is the way it is" doesn't at all mean you are right. I have nothing to defend, I just don't think it's fair for one person to lord around saying "this is the way it is".