child molesters

[Shemaya]

I've spent a decade wondering what to do to the person that molested me, and this thread seems to be full of people still wondering.


I'm wondering about how most people could have the experience bandwith of sexuality introduced to their existence with the least amount of pain.

What I have found helpful when I desired to forgive a harm done to me in the past was to write it out. Write your thoughts and feelings about how this affected you and what the person did that harmed you. How the events that transpired affected your life. You could send a letter to the person if you feel right about it, if it comes from a place of empowerment(taking your power back) but not with vengeance. If you are clear about your feelings and intentions it could lead to the person taking responsibility and full forgiveness. Forgiveness is a process, and sometimes the offender doesn't reach the place of being responsible for their actions. So I would work on processing my own thoughts/feelings and ask for guidance from Spirit before approaching the offender. A true act of forgiveness is very powerful, when offender and offended come together.

I am sorry that your initial experience of sexuality harmed you, I grieve for these imbalances, and I am sure that you can heal and discover a wonderful and beautiful sexual relationship with someone you love.

I feel very strongly that child molesters should be helped to get rid of the molestation / power illusion relating to their interactions. The age at the interaction is irrelevant, the power disparity between the two is what is relevant.

A psychopathic abusive relationship is a psychopathic abusive relationship no matter if one partner is 11 or 91. And that is what we should, in my opinion focus on.

I agree, Cyan, that we as a society should place the healing of mental/spiritual pathologies high on our priorities. These things were kept in the dark in the past and now it is coming into the light and being revealed. Often it is a pattern where the cycle repeats generationally. That is stopping now because it is time, and brilliant souls like yourself took this on to heal and transmute the pattern. It's time for the abuse of children to stop.

And it's time for our sexuality to be green ray, no more taking from others, or having power over another, most especially children. Sexual energy is such powerful, life force energy and when it is misused it stunts our life-force.

If two people make an informed decision to do something together then the state or the group consciousness should not be given the right to say that one of them is lying. So, as long as one of the people involved doesnt press charges, it doesnt belong to anyone else. The cut-off should be when the person is considered adult enough to make personal choices. What ever you happen to believe such a state of transition into adulthood is personal.

It is personal, but society still needs to come into agreement about it and make appropriate laws. I agree that those in a consensual sexual relationship need to be adults in order to make a responsible choice. By adult I mean being responsible for all the consequences that could happen as a result of sex. (ie. pregnancy) If someone isn't ready to care for a child, then imo they are not ready for a sexual relationship. I realize that my views are pretty conservative, but that is what I tell my kids because we are coming from a repressive religious structure and I prefer to have them think of the consequences rather than feeling guilt about "sin".


In the US someone is a minor until age 18, and that is the age of consent, I think.

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Another thought about healing, I think that now, since the 4D light is stronger, healing can happen much faster than in the past when people I love were healing from this. Things are happening faster now, energy is shifting, lots of good stuff is happeneing on our planet. If we can add our light to the brightness, how much brighter it will be

[norral]

dear cyan

i am really sorry that u were sexually abused. i wasnt and i find it impossible to forgive those who violate children. thats the way i am. so we disagree on that. my sympathies are totally with the victims. but regardless of whether we disagree on how molesters should be handled i feel your pain dear fellow traveler on this earth. i wasnt sexually violated but i grew up in a household where there was alcoholism and arguing and basically a state of insanity that existed at times that my mother and i had to tolerate. so i understand abuse and one day i slugged my dad in the mouth because i couldnt freaking take it anymore. and the whole room just stopped. and it is not an easy thing for a 16 year old to slug their own father. your father is supposed to be your hero and my dad wasnt my hero. i wanted him to be but he didnt have it in him. and i didnt hate him but i hated the way he acted. so after our confrontation the abuse stopped. there was no more arguing no more drama my mom and i were left alone. so that solution worked for me and that is the way i view things today as far as abusers go. i do want to confront them . that is my method and that is my reason for being the way i am

norral

our kids have never ever seen my wife and i argue. i promised myself growing up that if i had kids i would never ever put them thru that crap and i kept that promise. they all grew up secure in the knowledge that mom and dad loved one another.

[AnthroHeart]

I was going to post something, but it might spread fear. So decided against it.

[Cyan]

Ignore what i said.

EDIT: Had a point about but decided to instead avoid this whole thread but cant delete post.

[BlatzAdict]

I have compassion for them, but not their actions. Ending their current incarnation early is not a task I would wish on myself or anyone else, nor would I wish it even for them. As co-creators, I feel they have every right to be here too.

i hope you're not talking about child molestors.

if you are.. you are a horrible human being. do you understand the necessity of consequences or law?

people who justify child molestors, GO BACK AND REDO THIRD DENSITY, maldek soul.

[BlatzAdict]

I am so glad the veil is lifting and showing everyone's true polarity. Ya'll won't even lift a finger to assist those children who have no free will.

Easy for you to say you have compassion for an abuser, without lifting so much as a finger. Keep doing nothing, keep saying nothing, keep caring about how others will perceive you. Ya'll are service to self for caring more about how people will perceive you than to speak your hearts truth.

Child Molestation is a horrible plague, you have no right to call yourselves Service To Others, when I see no service to assist the victims of these crimes. No intention to assist to uncover and expose these molestors. You're all maldek souls!

In your hesitation to "not spread fear" all you are doing is not trying to spread love, to the very darkest dim lit parts of your own soul. How dare any of you call yourselves Law of One students.

I don't desire harm to come to child molestors, I desire justice, I desire JAIL AND DUE PROCESS. I DESIRE CLEAR AND CONCISE CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WHO WOULD MANIPULATE SOMEONE WHO IS WEAKER WHOSE FREE WILL IS BEING VIOLATED.

I desire jail for all of you who are complicit, in your own ignorance. It was my displeasure to be of Service to you all, who would make excuses for rapists. The future will judge you as those who were no different than Nazi sympathizers.

[AnthroHeart]

If it happens in a dream does that make them a bad person as well?
I didn't have it happen with a child, but a dream with a handicapped person or a slave.
I find in dreams I often violate those who are weaker than I am.
But in dreams it's not about sex I've heard, but dominance and such.

[Patrick]

I have compassion for them, but not their actions. Ending their current incarnation early is not a task I would wish on myself or anyone else, nor would I wish it even for them. As co-creators, I feel they have every right to be here too.

i hope you're not talking about child molestors.

if you are.. you are a horrible human being. do you understand the necessity of consequences or law?

people who justify child molestors, GO BACK AND REDO THIRD DENSITY, maldek soul.

Well I agree with Josh. And there is no need to go back, we are still working with 3d at the moment.

[Cannon]

The Ra and Q'uo material both speak of the existence of Karma, so it may be easier to attempt to love child rapists knowing that there will be perfect justice for the victims whether or not the victimizer faces it in their lifetime. It may also help to know, while difficult for me to accept at least, that the children who were raped were not being stupid while programming their incarnations and certainly knew damn well what would happen to them, but carried on in order to experience the trauma for powerful catalyst, and thus gained far more for themselves in a single lifetime than the suffering they endured while in it. This does not excuse the rapist in any way whatsoever, obviously. Even knowing such people exist in the first place is a form of catalyst itself, in my opinion.

[Patrick]

I believe that what seems unforgivable also deserves forgiveness. It's not someone else doing these things. It's us doing it to ourselves. There is only One. I know for a fact that it is possible to forgive a child molester. And everyone involved is better for it afterwards.

[EvolvingPhoenix]

The idea thay the molesters deserve compassio for their mental illnrss without condoning their actions.

There is nothing STS about that.

To have the urge tomdo such a thing is mysterious and qould have to fyck withnanyone who has a conscious about it, which sadly, doesnt always stop them from acting it out.

I wouldnt want to have such urges and I feel sorry for people who do. I consisder it a mental illness.

But as for the ACTION,  well... having a mental illness does not justify spreading sickness and pain.

Nobody is condoning the actions,  just treating mental illness like what it is: being sick.

But whether you're mentally ill or not, you still have free will, and a responsibility to use your free will in a manner which does not infringe upon others.

I thought about this before, and I remember a Skyrim quote: "which is better? To be born good? Or to overcome your evil nature through great effort" This said by a dragon whomhad willingly allowed himself to be captured bynhumans and interrogated to be of service, even though dragons in the Elder SScrolls universe are beings of domination and violence. Their words are forms of attack. Their arguments are literal fights. Their entire language is violence.


Yet he sacrifixed all that in order to be of service to others.

Now you have some people who are pedophiles, but theyndedicate themselvrs to living a life which does not infringe upon others.

They are dedicated to not letting their mental illness cause them to spread auffering.

They are placing this selfish and horrific urge on the chopping block and sacrificing itnfor the well beign of others.

This sscrifice asserts the value of loving others and caring about their well being over the selfishness of dominanxe and lust at the expense of others.

The silver lining in the mental illness being their unique opportunity to make such an assertion.

To the pedophiles who live in dedication to making such an assertion through willing denial of such a choice, I applaud their courage and their sense of respect for the well  eing of others over their own selfish desires.

And I feel great compassion for their struggle.

To those who fail, I do not condone such actions, but I recognize their mental illness and at least have compassion for that.

I see no reason why throwing cruelty on top of cruelty would somehow make things better for anyone. It's just more cruelty.

Thats exactly the kind of s*** STS types want: Less compassion, and more judgement and cruelty.

Instead I respond with compassion and a desire for the cruelty and suffering to end.

This does not mean I even remotely condone such behaviours.Quite the opposite really, as I wamt to see them stopped.  

And if such individuals are discovered to have committed such actions,  it is my desire that they be kept AWAY from children, by force if necessarry.

And that the children be given the loving support and help they need.

That's whats really important here: the VICTIMS.

And they need the best healing they can get, which sadly, they often dont. Instead, many live their lives feeling confused, angry, broken, unloved and unlovable and it breaks my heart becausemthays what thenSTS elites want and have been successfully creating. Misery and suffering.

In such cases, I honestly feel more energy is spent being oitraged and vengeful towards the perpetrstors than loving and supportive to the victims...

The perpetrstors need to be kept away from children and gicen help for their mental illness, which, sadly, we as a society cannot adequately give because we have not adequately studied because we have not aequately applied courage and compassion and overcome the taboo enough to study such an illness. Afraid to even look at it. Now what does that tell us about ourselves as a society? Clearly, there are some inmer demons our society is afraid to look at or we would not be afraid to ask: WHY does somebody even feel the need to do that in the first place?

Maybe its because it seems so unfathomable and we fear what we cannot understand?

I dunno, but to heal it, one must understand it, so our society ahould probably start asking WHY such urges exist in the first place, or we may not find the means to heal such mental illness.

And while the pedos can get help formtheir mental illness, the victims can get the lovingnsupport and enxouragement they need to heal and move on, rather than living their lives in shambles, which they often do, because ket's face it: Whe  so eone ismthe victim of such horrific crimes, how often do we even pay enough attwntion to them to know?

How xould we know? We refuse to even THINK about such things. So how could we even tell? We're too cowardly to think about subjects which bring us discomfort, somwe dont think to ourselves: may e whats wrong with my child is thatntheynhave been aexually assaulted and arent telling me. Sometimes, we DENY the truth when we ARE told!


The same aversion to shadow work which causes us as a society to avoid looking at the roots of pedophilia is the same aversion to shadow work which causes us to ignore the signs and symptoms of such abuse.

And we only traumatize the poor victims even further.

All because we dont like having our comfort zones threatened. We all want a "safe space" if you will from the reality of it, which is why human traffickingnhas gotten so out of hand, because just like all those people at Penn Statw who K EW whatnwas going on with those children and said and did NOTHING, hoping somebody else would resolve the problem while theynjust went along their merry way, we as a society do the same thing about human trafficking, vidtims' suffering, and pedophiles' mental illness because we would rather be confortable than empowered to creatw change.

We ignore signs. We ignore the obvious:

STS power elites are creating  machines of misery, spreading sexual trauma far and wide and they're doing it right under our noses, leaving just enough bread crumbs to leave us culpable, so it on a mass scale counts as "consent"

We consentually let them have our children, and our power. And we see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. Because we would rather just keep our heads down. And we do.

I am still wondering how we can take our power back,  but I know we can. Somehow...

We can start by empowering ourselves. Thats all I know so far. Its enough to go on for now.

[EvolvingPhoenix]

I am so glad the veil is lifting and showing everyone's true polarity. Ya'll won't even lift a finger to assist those children who have no free will.

Easy for you to say you have compassion for an abuser, without lifting so much as a finger. Keep doing nothing, keep saying nothing, keep caring about how others will perceive you. Ya'll are service to self for caring more about how people will perceive you than to speak your hearts truth.

Child Molestation is a horrible plague, you have no right to call yourselves Service To Others, when I see no service to assist the victims of these crimes. No intention to assist to uncover and expose these molestors. You're all maldek souls!

In your hesitation to "not spread fear" all you are doing is not trying to spread love, to the very darkest dim lit parts of your own soul. How dare any of you call yourselves Law of One students.

I don't desire harm to come to child molestors, I desire justice, I desire JAIL AND DUE PROCESS. I DESIRE CLEAR AND CONCISE CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WHO WOULD MANIPULATE SOMEONE WHO IS WEAKER WHOSE FREE WILL IS BEING VIOLATED.

I desire jail for all of you who are complicit, in your own ignorance. It was my displeasure to be of Service to you all, who would make excuses for rapists. The future will judge you as those who were no different than Nazi sympathizers.

So Blatzaddict, this is actually a keen opportunity for me to learn more about how to stop the great big STS child rape ,achine.

Please tell me what you are doing i your every day life which is bringing these criminals to justice and how can I apply it to mine so as to aid in the process of ending this child fucking misery machine?

[EvolvingPhoenix]

I am so glad the veil is lifting and showing everyone's true polarity. Ya'll won't even lift a finger to assist those children who have no free will.

Easy for you to say you have compassion for an abuser, without lifting so much as a finger. Keep doing nothing, keep saying nothing, keep caring about how others will perceive you. Ya'll are service to self for caring more about how people will perceive you than to speak your hearts truth.

Child Molestation is a horrible plague, you have no right to call yourselves Service To Others, when I see no service to assist the victims of these crimes. No intention to assist to uncover and expose these molestors. You're all maldek souls!

In your hesitation to "not spread fear" all you are doing is not trying to spread love, to the very darkest dim lit parts of your own soul. How dare any of you call yourselves Law of One students.

I don't desire harm to come to child molestors, I desire justice, I desire JAIL AND DUE PROCESS. I DESIRE CLEAR AND CONCISE CONSEQUENCES FOR THOSE WHO WOULD MANIPULATE SOMEONE WHO IS WEAKER WHOSE FREE WILL IS BEING VIOLATED.

I desire jail for all of you who are complicit, in your own ignorance. It was my displeasure to be of Service to you all, who would make excuses for rapists. The future will judge you as those who were no different than Nazi sympathizers.

So Blatzaddict, this is actually a keen opportunity for me to learn more about how to stop the great big STS child rape ,achine.

Please tell me what you are doing i  your every day life which is bringing these criminals to justice and how can I apply it to mine so as to aid in the process of ending this child fucking misery machine?

[Agua]

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[EvolvingPhoenix]

Hey, Blatz Addict, old Maldek Soul

You might want to check out the "treehugger's" section for a personal story of mine.
Could be interesting for you in regards to the subject!

Cool! Ima check it out as well later! After Ive fone some more gounding

[Infinite]

Yes, this is ugly, negative and repulsive. But, someone who can't forgive and love a child molester or any other kind of criminal is not ready to fourth density. This is the hardest lesson of the third density. To love unconditionally not mattering so difficult this can be.

[Nau7ik]

Yes, this is ugly, negative and repulsive. But, someone who can't forgive and love a child molester or any other kind of criminal is not ready to fourth density. This is the hardest lesson of the third density. To love unconditionally not mattering so difficult this can be.

“To love the unloveable, to forgive the unforgivable, to accept the unacceptable.”

Another way to think about this... these are the souls who need Love and Light the most. No one is willing to give it to them. We have our heart open enough to include them as well, and this is a healing for us, them, and the planet.

[Agua]

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[Stranger]

“To love the unloveable, to forgive the unforgivable, to accept the unacceptable.”

Another way to think about this... these are the souls who need Love and Light the most. No one is willing to give it to them. We have our heart open enough to include them as well, and this is a healing for us, them, and the planet.

Protecting the victim(s) and preventing additional victimization has to be the first priority, bar none.

That is where the Catholic church has failed wretchedly and consistently, and there is nothing STO about that.

[Cannon]

That is where the Catholic church has failed wretchedly and consistently, and there is nothing STO about that.

It's not that they failed, it's that they probably didn't even try. I would be more surprised today if the higher ups were discovered not to be pedophile rapists instead of finding out they are.

[Nau7ik]

“To love the unloveable, to forgive the unforgivable, to accept the unacceptable.”

Another way to think about this... these are the souls who need Love and Light the most. No one is willing to give it to them. We have our heart open enough to include them as well, and this is a healing for us, them, and the planet.

Protecting the victim(s) and preventing additional victimization has to be the first priority, bar none.

That is where the Catholic church has failed wretchedly and consistently, and there is nothing STO about that.

Absolutely! We can forgive and love others, but it doesn’t mean we have to approve of what they do. Not at all. To molest the pure innocence of a child is one of the worst things that one could do, in my book. Right up there with murder and torture.

And it’s exacrly because these crimes are so awful that we should not look away. We can forgive the child molestor while locking him away to prevent him from committing these crimes again.