08-04-2011, 07:12 PM
(08-02-2011, 11:51 PM)Raman Wrote: Population control? I am just saying Ra stated when Harvest occurs 3d density bodies AND thoughts AND feelings AND artifacts will cease to exist:I don't think population control is in the cards at all, nor should it be. As I mentioned, RA mentions nothing of the "death" of the red and orange ray bodies during harvest. They do not necessarily follow the same path as the yellow ray body, as only it is entering potentiation once the green ray establishes itself. RA also states that the 2D body can survive for a short time without a higher density influence, meaning, the 1D/2D body does indeed embody our physical vessel primarily. Our 3D self lies primarily between our ears; the way we perceive the world and apply our own logic to things.
Quote:63.32 Questioner: When the third-density goes out of activation and into potentiation that will leave us with a planet that is first, second, and fourth-density. At that time there will be no activated third-density vibrations on this planet. Am I correct in assuming that all third-density vibrations on this planet now are those vibrations that compose the bodily complexes of entities such as we are; that that is the sum total of third-density vibrations on this planet at this time?If this is 'population control' to you, so be it.
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full query of this working. This instrument has energy left due to transfer but there is discomfort. We do not wish to deplete this instrument. May we say that this instrument seems in better configuration despite attack than previous workings.
To answer your query, this is incorrect only in that in addition to the mind/body/spirit complexes of third-density there are the artifacts, thought-forms, and feelings which these co-Creators have produced. This is third-density.
May we answer any brief queries as we leave this instrument?
Second, another 6th density group created pyramids, cities, and (to me) the mayan calendar which is about consciousness. And we are just realizing this close to harvest time...(---minus the 'Gregorian factor' per Ra in 'approximately' 2011).
Doom/gloom, yes, not good. However, Mars or Maldek scenario totally possible if something 'different' does not happen. --Talk about doom/gloom....
By the way, do you people realize that eventually you will die? (in the 3d sense?)...
Third, 'doom and gloom' scenarios are indeed possible and they are indeed a stop to evolution. (destruction of the planet). But since 'harvest' is here (in whatever form) soon, 4d earth is possible.
Seems that cycles in 3d are 25,000 years each and a definitive final one after 3 times, because it is a 'safety valve' most of the time, due to the propensities of 3d evolution for destruction if things go awry, etc.
Would I like if at harvest time multicolored candy falls from the sky and we hug each other and start a new world, and sing kumbaya and all computers run gnu/linux? Well yeah...
I think we are too attached to 3d....
In our shift to 4D, we have happen to us what Ra speaks of in the passage you quoted. 3D and 4D are uniquely incompatible as they embody different ends of a spectrum (3D being the density of confusion and 4D being the density of understanding). Therefore, when we come into 4D, all things 3D will fade away because we will know better. Let me relate this in real-world circumstance: In 4D, our 3D selves will die. By this I mean our insecurities about our looks, our careers, our vices will all go away. The stress that comes with every decision from professional to moral would be squelched as the need to be guarded and measured leaves the earth. Similarly, the constructs and thought-forms would cease to exist. This doesn't mean things will disappear but instead represents a spiritual-technological shift where the world we have built ourselves will no longer hold value to our new reality. Energy companies will be shut down as free energy systems take over. Our roads & highways will just be scars on the landscape as we think ourselves elsewhere instead. From medical facilities to tanning salons, all of the things that we invest into so heavily right now will become useless in our new 4D reality, and in this way, all things 3d will die. (IMO, of course)
I would imagine 3D people who are not willing to make the choice to ascend will instead live out their lives trying to live in the past. Maybe they will shun the new 4D communities, or maybe they will live amongst them and be begrudgingly taken care of by the 4D folks until they die. Before you go off about dying, I want to be clear that yes - I know and accept that I will die one day. I have many times before, and will again many times in the future. That's not the point. As Ra says, the harvest is a 'coming of age' type event in our soul's evolution. IMO, we cannot reject the possibility that something amazing may happen at this time. For me, what would be more amazing than rebuilding the world into Utopia? I almost think it would require the passion from where we've come from (and still are coming from) in order to make it work.
I understand your cynicism as well. Things are definitely up in the air, but there are things to remember as well. Maldek pretty much has no chance of happening according to what Q'uo has been saying for the last few years. We have protection from the majority of those scenarios taking place. At this point, we are all systems go for a 4D positive ascension process. This is something to be excited about!
One other thing I haven't been able to shake from my mind is that we have no idea what 4D birth entails either. We know it only happens once every 90,000 years or so and that we come into being at an advanced stage compared to the 3D incarnation; I think I remember Ra saying more like a teenager instead of an infant. I'll have to track it down, but if Ra did indeed say that, doesn't that make sense even if we were to go to 4D with our current bodies? Learning to wield our 4D bodies and integrate into the 4D world could probably be better characterized as a teenager learning what to do with puberty than an infant learning how to survive. I mean, we made our way through 3D and made a choice, right? I don't think we enter 4D completely useless like we do in 3D.... (this comes from experience as of late )
Maybe I am too rooted into 3D, but believe me, I am ready for 4D in whichever form it comes. I am just not convinced we're gonna see a hard reset of the world. I see the positive side of our world rising up and swallowing the other, and the resulting unity being all that is left. We have this potential; believe it or not.