08-19-2011, 08:24 PM
(08-19-2011, 05:51 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Your understanding of the differences on Earth and Venus seems both subtle and profound. However, your understanding of the veil is different than mine. I understand it to be architectural and hence identical throughout the creation of our sub-Logos, and I suspect that it's not all that different throughout the creation of our Logos.
What you take to be differences in the veil I understand to be different free will responses to third density.
this is what im talking about when i say 'taking it complex'. you are taking them as separate machinery. but, thinking simply, what is the purpose of the veil ? to put a wall in between conscious and subconscious. so then, anything that amplifies that effect, will amplify the veil.
however, unfortunately, it seems this is not so much a function of 'free will' it seems. for, there isnt a choice in this - you need to fit in with the necessities of this civilization. if you dont, you cant survive, or survive properly. even back in 3000 BC, everyone had to use tools and whatnot and constantly push the envelope either to survive in nature, but more to defend themselves against others' aggression.
institutionalization of orange/yellow ray divisionism in the mechanics of property ownership/trade and eventual capitalist system brought the survival fight against others right into the home, as opposed to previously it being something happening in between nations, or at most tribes or villages.
you cant choose in such an environment. you have to survive. you have to fit in.
(08-19-2011, 11:35 AM)Raman Wrote: Mentioning speech manipulation and Denebians, is there anything in the Ra material that could be hinting to another manipulation by another group in the for example Denebians case or once the martians were manipulated, this was the base for all others including Denebians, etc?
no there wasnt.