(10-14-2016, 02:53 PM)anagogy Wrote:(10-14-2016, 02:24 PM)Aion Wrote: @Anagogy
I do see how you can draw that conclusion but that is not a complete view of the mechanics of vibration according to my understanding. You see, someone who is putting off a stronger vibration of higher amplitude can override a vibration of someone else and even entrain someone else to their vibration. The flaw I see in your suggestions that the victim will always have some desire to be victimized is in the thought that Ra gives - 'Are you not all things?'
This means that in microcosm you actually contain any and all possible desires, good and bad. This is where the problem of infringement comes in. Remember Ra describes negativity as being like a black hole, pulling things in to it. This is the entrainment effect as well. When a negative individual is putting out a powerful vibration they can actually call to desires within an individual and draw them in, hypnotically in a manner.
At this point, however, I don't think that it is always at the 'subconscious willingness of the victim' that this occurs.I believe a powerful vibration can call out desires that were never previously charged and manipulation can be used. In that sense, I think there are more cases of genuine infringement against will than cases of 'happenstance vibrational match'.
Predators will create prey if they find none naturally around them.
There is most definitely such a thing as influencing another of course, and I don't think anyone is suggesting otherwise. However, influence can only occur when there is vibrational overlap between realities, meaning, there has to be some common factor to facilitate that communication. In the same way that you need to be in the same room to physically touch someone, you have to be in a similar, or overlapping, "mental space" to vibrationally touch or influence someone. That can take many forms.
Keep in mind the physical is just an extension of the nonphysical, and the only reason you share a physical space with someone is because you also share (at least, to some minute extent) mental space as well.
You are right, we are all things, but in the illusion we are only some things. You could say those things that we currently appear to be are simply the "active vibrations" within us at the moment. Those vibrations are kept active only by our attention to them (subconscious or otherwise).
So are there situations where an individual influences someone to focus on vibrational activations they don't want? Most definitely (look, I'll do it right now: don't think of a pink elephant!). It happens all the time. But the person's free will to choose their thoughts has not gone away. The infringement is convincing them they have no power to choose. It's like getting them to use their own power against themselves.
What you are calling a powerful vibration that hypnotically draws in others, I would simply call "charisma". In talking about influencing others, I think its important to think about the concept of will. If you don't firmly choose what you think/believe, you will often be swept up into others thoughts, beliefs, desires, and perspectives.
Essentially, no one takes away your ability to choose, unless they talk you into believing you have no choice.
I could stop myself from thinking of the pink elephant because I have good control over my thoughts, but most people would immediately get the image. The thing is that charisma isn't just 'talking', it is energy transfer as well and there are ways to influence people without ever saying a word or without directly influencing their thoughts.
However. I will disagree that these things only occur due to 'vibrational overlap' because this can be induced by a strong vibration from only one side. An energy transfer can be forced.
My analogy is that of a guitar. It can play many notes and sounds at any point but only so many at one time. As you play it takes different forms based on how you are vibrating the strings. The way resonance works is that anything will pick it up. We are like the guitar. We always have everything, but the illusion as you call it is whatever we are currently playing on the guitar. However, if someone suddenly comes in blaring a different tune at a louder volume not only will it drown out your music but it will also cause your guitar to vibrate in ways that you were not causing it to and can even cause notes to emerge due to harmonics that never might have emerged on their own.
You may have all the choice in the world of how you are going to keep playing, for sure, but that's not just what will is about. Will isn't just a matter of what you are doing but also a matter of what you want to do. Even if that person has no control over your guitar, they aren't touching it, they have control over your music because they are forcing you to play against them. This is what I believe infringement is actually like. This wouldn't be a particularly severe infringement but would be nonetheless.
In a situation where it wasn't infringement it would be asking to jam or play with or to just listen first and wait til a break. Then their will to play is respected while also exercising ones own will. I think people often go to extreme examples to try and demonstrate polarity but I think it happens on a much subtler and simpler level more often than not.