I understand that in a 3 dimensional world the fourth coordinate is time.

That's as far as it goes for me.

Please make your replies very simple, using short sentences and don't assume I know advanced physics concepts!

Thanks for your comments and your help.

this is a very interesting passage that describes how the sub-Logos (our sun) is only able to offer catalyst at the lower three levels (red, orange, and yellow ray). These are the physical chakras, ones that are more space/time oriented.

the intriguing part is that this catalyst can then be transformed by the self into a higher vibrational food; one that feeds the green, blue, and indigo centers.

to me, this is evinced in the action of the Emperor archetype; which is otherwise known as the Experience of the Mind.

Quote:54.17 Questioner: I would like then to trace the evolution of catalyst upon the mind/body/spirit complexes and how it comes into use and is fully used to create this tuning. I assume that the sub-Logos that formed our tiny part of the creation using the intelligence of the Logos of which it is a part, provides the base catalyst that will act upon mind/body complexes and mind/body/spirit complexes before they have reached a state of development where they can begin to program their own catalyst. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. The sub-Logos offers the catalyst at the lower levels of energy, the first triad; these have to do with the survival of the physical complex. The higher centers gain catalyst from the biases of the mind/body/spirit complex itself in response to all random and directed experiences.

Thus the less developed entity will perceive the catalyst about it in terms of survival of the physical complex with the distortions which are preferred. The more conscious entity, being conscious of the catalytic process, will begin to transform the catalyst offered by the sub-Logos into catalyst which may act upon the higher energy nexi. Thus the sub-Logos can offer only a basic skeleton, shall we say, of catalyst. The muscles and flesh having to do with the, shall we say, survival of wisdom, love, compassion, and service are brought about by the action of the mind/body/spirit complex on basic catalyst so as to create a more complex catalyst which may in turn be used to form distortions within these higher energy centers.

The more advanced the entity, the more tenuous the connection between the sub-Logos and the perceived catalyst until, finally, all catalyst is chosen, generated, and manufactured by the self, for the self.

RA- 51.10
Free will has potentiated, both, the Creator of us all , and our selves, as co-Creator, with intelligent infinity, which has will. This ‘will’, may be drawn upon by the indigo or form-making body , and its wisdom used to then choose the appropriate locus and type of experience which this co-Creator or sub-sub-Logos, you call so carelessly ‘a person’ will take.”

What do you suppose that Ra meant by saying, "...call so carelessly 'a person'..?"

Please pay special attention to the italic portion of this quote:

p184, Session 19, Book 1 Wrote:Questioner: Let’s take the point at which an individualized entity of second
density is ready for transition to third. Is this second-density being what we would call animal?

Ra: I am Ra. There are three types of second-density entities which become,
shall we say, enspirited. The first is the animal. This is the most
predominant. The second is the vegetable, most especially that which you
call, sound vibration complex, “tree.” These entities are capable of giving
and receiving enough love to become individualized. The third is mineral.
Occasionally a certain location/place, as you may call it, becomes energized
to individuality through the love it receives and gives in relationship to a
third-density entity which is in relationship to it. This is the least common
transition.

So I read this article this morning after having a dream last night that was similar to a very unique experience I had during a meditation a few years back where I seem to be at what I relate to as Saturn...and there seems to be 9 beings, tall, no features on them really, its as if the figure they take on is only for my viewing purpose, and its also obvious that the 9 really are just 1....they are a unit but they showed themselves as 9 beings.

The article I read talked about other people in the past that claimed to channel what they called 'The Nine'...and to my surprise on down in the article they named Carla and Jim as also people that tapped into 'The Nine'.

Does anyone remember every reading about Ra talking about the number of 'nine'?? Does 9 or Saturn ring a bell? It was as if Saturn was their 'watch spot' or settling spot....for now? They could read my feelings, are very sincere, and I will also say, both the meditation moment and last night when I had the dream....I was oddly laying in a position I rarely am in...laying with my head in the northern position. The meditation I happened to have my head on my knees, bent over, head facing north. The dream...well just so happens I moved my bed around and last night was just the 2nd night that I slept with my head to the northern direction, actually the same spot, facing the same window, when I had both experiences.

Not only are they a part of eachother...its as if they are also a part of me and I them. There was much respect, reverence, and just simple awareness. I really really love seeing them, whoever 'they' are.

Hi all,

I started some months ago to read again every single transcript from L/L Research and it's been a wonderful journey, still in 2003 but slowly seeing that I have changed a lot with all the knowledge provided by Quo and Ra.
Still, so many questions as well arise that I thought of sharing one by one and see what is your point of view here.

The first thing is about the higher selves. We on 3D enjoy the help of our 6D self, reaching back in "the past" to help us navigate this density. But, what about in 4, 5 or 6D?
Never heard Hatonn, Latwii or Ra speak about their higher selves, at least for the 4D and 5D, cause if Ra is 6D, Ra itself (each member of the memory complex) seems to be their own higher self already (or something similar).
Any thoughts?

Ra was pretty transparent in their answers. If they could answer, they did, and did so quite clearly; if they couldn't (because of infringement) they were equally forthright in stating this.

the Q&A below has to do with one of the members of the channeling group, and exposes one of their distortions at the time. At various times, Don, Jim, and Carla were subjected to the lens of metaphysical sight when asking for help with physical issues. One other prominent example would be here: http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=61#7

the case which I would like to consider in this post has to do with a Spider Bite that Jim experienced, and its implications in general regards the concept of negative wisdom. One can be on the positive path, and yet be travelling quite a solo journey.

Quote:101.2 Questioner: Thank you. What has caused the swelling in Jim’s body, and what can be done to heal it?

Ra: I am Ra. For the answer to this query we must begin with the consideration of the serpent, signifying wisdom. This symbol has the value of the ease of viewing the two faces of the one who is wise. Positive wisdom adorns the brow indicating indigo-ray work. Negative wisdom, by which we intend to signify expressions which effectually separate the self from the other-self, may be symbolized by the poison of the fangs. To use that which a mind/body/spirit complex has gained of wisdom for the uses of separation is to invite the fatal bite of that wisdom’s darker side.

The entity has a mental/emotional tendency, which has been lessening in distortion for some of your space/time, towards negative wisdom. The entity being already aware of this causes us not to dwell upon this point but merely to specifically draw the boundaries of the metaphysical background for the energizing of a series of bites from one of your second-density species.

I just came across this quote again:

41.19 Wrote: Questioner: Thank you. In the session from the day before yesterday you mentioned variable speed of rotation or activity of energy centers. What did you mean by that?

Ra: I am Ra. Each energy center has a wide range of rotational speed or as you may see it more clearly in relation to color, brilliance. The more strongly the will of the entity concentrates upon and refines or purifies each energy center, the more brilliant or rotationally active each energy center will be. It is not necessary for the energy centers to be activated in order in the case of the self-aware entity. Thusly entities may have extremely brilliant energy centers while being quite unbalanced in their violet-ray aspect due to lack of attention paid to the totality of experience of the entity.

The key to balance may then be seen in the unstudied, spontaneous, and honest response of entities toward experiences, thus using experience to the utmost, then applying the balancing exercises and achieving the proper attitude for the most purified spectrum of energy center manifestation in violet ray. This is why the brilliance or rotational speed of the energy centers is not considered above the balanced aspect or violet-ray manifestation of an entity in regarding harvestability; for those entities which are unbalanced, especially as to the primary rays, will not be capable of sustaining the impact of the love and light of intelligent infinity to the extent necessary for harvest.

41.25 Wrote:Questioner: Why are the red, yellow, and blue energy centers called primary centers? I think from previous material I understand this, but is there some tracing of these primary colors back to intelligent infinity more profound than what you have given us?

Ra: I am Ra. We cannot say what may seem profound to an entity. The red, yellow, and blue rays are primary because they signify activity of a primary nature.

Red ray is the foundation; orange ray the movement towards yellow ray which is the ray of self-awareness and interaction. Green ray is the movement through various experiences of energy exchanges having to do with compassion and all-forgiving love to the primary blue ray which is the first ray of radiation of self regardless of any actions from another.

The green-ray entity is ineffectual in the face of blockage from other-selves. The blue-ray entity is a co-Creator. This may perhaps simply be a restatement of previous activity, but if you consider the function of the Logos as representative of the Infinite Creator in effectuating the knowing of the Creator by the Creator you may perhaps see the steps by which this may be accomplished.

The Law of One, Book III, Session 73:

Questioner: An observation of the working itself by another entity would
seem to me to partially abridge free will in that a seemingly magical
occurrence had taken place as the result of the working of an adept. This
could be extended to any phenomenon which is other than normal or
acceptable. Could you speak on this paradox that is immediately the
problem of anyone doing healing?

Ra: I am Ra. We are humble messengers of the Law of One. To us there are
no paradoxes. The workings which seem magical and, therefore, seem to
infringe upon free will do not, in themselves, do so, for the distortions of
perception are as many as the witnesses and each witness sees what it desires to see. Infringement upon free will occurs in this circumstance only if the entity doing the working ascribes the authorship of this event to its self or its own skills. He who states that no working comes from it but only through it is not infringing upon free will.

I wonder if this is because the healing is too "small" a miracle to infringe on free will. Otherwise why not all the masters levitate to travel in front of people, so that people can understand the reality a bit better?

http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=49#6

so, this has always been one of my fav exercises in the Ra material. It is because it links UNDERSTANDING with the ENERGY CENTERS and shows the clear link between the development of the two.

one cannot progress in one without its simultanous reflection in the other.

it begins:

this is the process of inter-acting with catalyst and processing it through consciousness.

Quote:49.6 Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual.

Quote:Each experience will be sequentially understood by the growing and seeking mind/body/spirit complex in terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity, then in terms of social relations, then in terms of universal love, then in terms of how the experience may beget free communication, then in terms of how the experience may be linked to universal energies, and finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience.

Quote:Meanwhile the Creator lies within. In the north pole the crown is already upon the head and the entity is potentially a god. This energy is brought into being by the humble and trusting acceptance of this energy through meditation and contemplation of the self and of the Creator.