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      Ra's Fundamental Postulates
    Posted by: 4Dsunrise - 05-14-2015, 04:55 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (5)

    4dphilosophyproject (at) gmail.com

    If you have a serious interest in developing the IUP and producing a philosophical treatise and curriculum for mainstream university study send an email. Elaborate on what your goals are and what specific interests you may have related to this project.

    Finish this statement 'The LOO is the law that states....and from this it implies...'


    Just as Nehru and Peret reevaluated Larson's Fundamental Postulates of the Reciprocal System or RS, a reevaluation is here attempted of Ra statements that come closest to being postulates.

    From their reevaluation RS2 was created using more accurate and complete postulates to provide a better foundation for deriving corollaries and theories of physics, biology, and to some extent, mathematics and metaphysics. It became a more consistent and understandable system that could determine and explain in better detail principles and phenomena.  It is still a work in progress but is an advancement of RS.

    If you get the postulates or axioms right the rest of the system should harmoniously fall into place and new research and development can take place.

    My purpose here is to reevaluate the postulates or general principles of the LOO and develop more accurate ones.  It takes using critical thinking and questioning at a level that may seem harsh but that's what a thorough reevaluation calls for.

    The goals are for:
    1. a clear and complete description of the monism properties of the LOO.
    2. a description of how these monism properties or principles can be used to derive other principles and forms of existence
    3. creating a comprehensive philosophical treatise and curriculum worthy of university study and making L/L Research relevant to mainstream academia

    There are some serious researchers and educators out there so critical and constructive questions and comments are welcome.
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    RM session 1 postulate:

    You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

    So I am every thing. Therefore I am all things.  I am a single entity that is all things. I, as a one, am all things. So therefore, one thing is all things, and by induction, One is All. Unity is Infinity. This is the LOO.

    The I am All nature of LOO is outward and projective. I identify with you -- I project myself into you -- I am you. An unbalanced and extreme LOO can result in borderline personality disorder. Standing on the border in no man's land with no personal identity leads to projection on everyone else. Also bi-polar disorder, martyr complex, co-dependence, ungrounded flightiness.

    The converse of the LOO is LoA

    Every thing is you, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. Unity is you. Infinity is you. Love/light, light/love are you. All are you. This is the Law of All.

    So every thing is I. Therefore all things is I. All things is I as a single entity. All things is I, as a one. So therefore, all things is one thing, and by induction, All is One. Infinity is Unity. This is the LoA.

    The All is I nature of LoA is inward and injective. You identify with me -- you inject yourself into me -- you are me. An unbalanced and extreme LoA can result in narcissism and grandiose egotistic delusions, power trips, sadism, manic depression and bi-polar disorder.

    There are significant semantic problems of the RM session 1 postulate:

    The muddled mixing of relative and absolute terms is problematic -- beings, emotions, events, situations are relative concrete terms and should not be mixed with unity and infinity which are, as Ra uses them in the statement, absolute abstract terms. Love/light and light/love are relative and a combination of concrete/abstract so are mixable with the relative concrete.

    Infinity denotes All and Unity denotes One and Infinity/Unity denote each other. They are abstract absolutes that precede and encompass the relative concrete/abstract. Therefore, I would not include infinity and unity in the initial statement. Pull them out and use them like I did in the inference chain where All is One infers Infinity is Unity.

    RM session 4 postulate:

    The Law of One, though beyond the limitation of name may be approximated by stating that all things are one, that there is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony, but only identity. All is one, and that one is love/light, light/love, the infinite Creator.


    The LOO may be approximated or estimated as the statement all things are one -- this is an admission of vagueness because of translation problems.  All things are one is the basic statement of a vague arbitrary monism. What specific kind of monism is LOO?

    There is no polarity, no right or wrong, no disharmony --- all negation-based -- similar to non-duality and an absolute indifference. So are we talking about the Law of Non-Duality or Law of Indifference instead of LOO? Again vagueness from translation problems.

    There is only identity -- so there's only sameness or equality.

    Identity is expressed in the Styx song, Grand Illusion -- Just remember that...it's a grand illusion... and deep inside we're all the same. We're all the same as what kind of monism?

    A = A  is self-identity.  Infinity = Unity and Unity = Infinity are symmetric identities that necessitate the dialectical monism of the Infinity/Unity Principle or IUP.

    Equality (=) is a binary relation. You must have two things to have an equality. 4/2=2 and 5x3=15, etc. Duality is needed for equality to be expressed.
     
    All is one, and that one is love/light, light/love, the infinite Creator.

    In the RM session 1 postulate above -- LoO asserts that you are all, so therefore One is All -- it's clear and explicit. Now it's claimed that All is One and that one is a duality of love/light and light/love. What happened to declaring no polarity or duality and only identity? Conflicting statements between sessions 1 & 4 and within session 4 itself.

    Muddled mixing and conflicting statements clearly show session 1 & 4 as ineffective postulates.

    We at least know that Ra asserts a type of monotheism with a single infinite Creator but unclear about other characteristics and properties. The IUP asserts panentheism which fits perfectly with its dialectical monism.

    Other than RM session 4, Ra makes only one other reference to 'all is one' in the whole 4 book series which is quite surprising -- and in RM session 66 it is not explicitly referring to the LOO but to the Creator knowing Itself, which is consistent with LoA integration and self-awareness.
     
    All is One does not refer to the LOO as everyone assumes. (I used to assume this too - its a kind of mantra -- but its a LoA mantra or a monism mantra.)

    The order of reference is significant and is clear in the following.

    What is All? All is One -- All is the primary subject and One is the secondary predicate. LoA

    What is One? One is All -- One is the primary subject and All is the secondary predicate. LoO

    RM session 66
    Questioner: Is this desire and will that operates through to the time/space section a function only of the entity who is healed or is it also the function of the healer, the crystallized healer?

    Ra: I am Ra. May we take this opportunity to say that this is the activity of the Creator. To specifically answer your query the crystallized healer has no will. It offers an opportunity without attachment to the outcome, for it is aware that all is one and that the Creator is knowing Itself.

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    Brick How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex
    Posted by: Lighthead - 05-13-2015, 12:45 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (19)

    This question may have been asked, but perhaps not in this exact way. Let's say that a Wanderer is from a 6D social memory complex. And let's say that the Wanderer, when in 3D, is increasing his or her sub-density (or even density) in terms of soul progression. What would happen to the soul progression of the social memory complex as a whole? Would that help the complex gain in their progression? And, conversely, what would happen if the Wanderer would have to repeat the 3D cycle? Would that lower the vibration of the complex?

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      Ra's Current Activity
    Posted by: Aion - 05-13-2015, 02:38 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (32)

    What do you guys think Ra is up to right now?

    I think Ra is very much still active on the planet doing the work of offering the Law of One and radiating in love and acceptance. I wonder, however, if some Ra wanderers may actually be involved in more radical affairs.

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      Are You Not All Things
    Posted by: AnthroHeart - 05-12-2015, 01:15 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (20)

    What exactly does Ra mean by "are you not all things?"

    Have we already been everything?

    Is our current life a "new" experience, or have we done it before?

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      Ra on The Golden Dawn
    Posted by: Aion - 05-12-2015, 05:28 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (30)

    Quote:69.22 Questioner: There are many techniques and ways of practicing so-called white magical arts. Are rituals designed by a particular group for their own particular use just as good or possibly better than those that have been practiced by groups such as the Order of the Golden Dawn and other magical groups?

    Ra: I am Ra. Although we are unable to speak with precision on this query, we may note some gratification that the questioner has penetrated some of the gist of a formidable system of service and discipline.

    It appears to me here that Ra is acknowledging the "formidable system of service and discipline" that is used by the Order of the Golden Dawn. The Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram which is used by the group for clearing their space is also of Golden Dawn origin. I was once informed that some of the higher adept workings in the Golden Dawn include trance channeling and keeping scribe. I have speculated that perhaps Ra, or one of the members of Ra rather, is one of the Secret Chiefs of the Golden Dawn.

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      IUP or LOO? A philosophical debate.
    Posted by: 4Dsunrise - 05-10-2015, 01:26 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (37)

    4dphilosophyproject (at) gmail.com

    If you have a serious interest in developing the IUP and producing a philosophical treatise and curriculum for mainstrean university study send an email. Elaborate on what your goals are and what specific interests you may have related to this project.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    (quick edit to clarify IUP and to add my opening statement for LOO supporters to respond to -- remember that its a friendly philosophical debate)

    Debate -- A discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal -- reasons involve facts and examples and logical steps towards conclusions.

    Philosophical debates are of a much higher standard than religious or political debates -- debates that degenerate into unfocused emotional and irrational attacks and use of logical fallacies. Check the debate section of the Philosophy Forums website to see how a friendly effective debate is conducted.
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    IUP means Infinity Unity Principle   

    IUP = IU + UI

    IU means Infinity is Unity
    UI means Unity is Infinity

    The All One Principle or AOP is equivalent to IUP but has unique usage for descriptions and derivations.

    AOP = AO + OA

    AO means All is One  (AO is equivalent to IU and the Law of All)
    OA means One is All  (OA is equivalent to UI and the Law of One)

    IUP or AOP = LoA + LoO and is a dialectical monism.

    There is actually a two-fold reciprocal nature to the IUP. There is the Infinity/Unity aspect and the Unity/Infinity aspect. Existentially, Infinity preceded Unity but found its essence through focus and formulation of Unity and became aware. Unity gains being and awareness through the breadth and dynamism of Infinity. Thus these two aspects are equally significant and form a Dyad.

    Infinity/Unity means 'All is One' and is called the Law of All or LoA.
    Colloquially, one can say 'All is I' which allows an inward focus from the All to oneself.

    Unity/Infinity means 'One is All' and is called the Law of One or LOO.
    Colloquially, one can say 'I am All' which allows an outward focus from oneself to the All.

    A work in progress at:
    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10318
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    The reason for the debate is to spur interest in both the IUP and LOO towards creating a coherent philosophical system around either one or both these principles by way of philosophical analysis and critique and then developing a curriculum based on this system.

    A. My position is that the IUP is fundamental and comprehensive as opposed to the LOO -- as explicitly defined in RM session 1, a definition that, imo, is somewhat muddled -- and my version of the IUP claims to be a dialectical monism which includes both the LOO and the LoA -- to then generate derivable principles and forms of existence.

    B. The LOO position should be able to provide its own reasons for why the LOO -- with somewhat muddled and conflicting interpretations between RM sessions 1 & 4 -- is fundamental and comprehensive and therefore superior to the IUP. A clear description should be provided as to what type of monism LOO claims to be.

    Monism -- The doctrine that reality consists of a single basic substance or element -- the doctrine that reality is one unitary organic whole with no independent parts. There are a wide variety of monisms which the LOO supporter will need to explore -- plus an 'All is One' philosophy by Parmenides from this link is worth a view.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjTAWFNLjKc

    The opening statement of this debate by both sides should address the following.

    Provide reasons for why the IUP or LOO is the fundamental principle of creation from which all other principles and forms of existence are derived.  Such a fundamental principle should be capable of being presented as a comprehensive philosophical treatise explaining in a logically consistent format how such principles and forms can be derived. Comprehensive, consistent and derivable qualities must be described.

    By definition, a philosophical treatise is a systematic exposition written out in a way that includes an organized discussion of the facts and principles involved and conclusions reached. It has to be consistent, coherent and explain how and why physical and metaphysical phenomena are derived from it.

    So, the hope is that a well thought out and focused debate between parties should be useful to provide an outline for a philosophical treatise and a curriculum of the IUP and/or LOO.

    I made an opening statement for the IUP in the latest Xandria Material post and actually tried to argue for LOO, so it's important for the LOO supporter to read it through carefully and make reference to it in this thread.

    Go to last post at:
    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10318

    And since I already opened the debate and made the IUP case to a large extent, I'll give the floor to the LOO supporter to make your opening statement in the next post of this thread.

    Btw, I'm pro-Confederation in that the Ra Material and some portions of the Quo material are invaluable for my research and development of a comprehensive philosophical treatise of the IUP and a descriptive/prescriptive curriculum for students of both academic and esoteric philosophy.

    So it's very similar to the Nehru/Peret approach to reevaluating and advancing Dewey Larson's RS.

    Another motivation is that we're now at the 3.8/4.1D overlap where we're exiting the Density of Choice and entering the Density of Understanding of 4D with a weak draw to a faintly activated 5D of Wisdom/Knowledge.

    For the future 4D Terrans 'understanding is of this density' and should apply in terms of advanced philosophical and esoteric understanding and which a philosophical treatise and curriculum is dedicated to.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    So, to rephrase, the purpose of this philosophical debate is to find out how the 6D Terran's IUP compares to the 6D Venusian's LOO and which would make the best philosophical treatise. Which is more comprehensive, logically consistent and derivable?

    One last note -- you might also want to address the questions below because the IUP, LoA and LOO will be scrutinized and critiqued by philosophy students in such a Q & A scenario.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    What is the Law of One or Way of One?

    This fundamental question will be asked by faculty and students who will want a clear and comprehensive answer.

    I. Describe in the form of a definition.

    Define 'law' or 'way' as it is used here. Is it a decree or governmental dictate? Or is it more like a discovered physical law ie the law of gravity which is considered a 'persistent regularity'. There is a need to disambiguate and clarify this notion of 'law'.

    Finish this statement 'The term law in the LOO denotes...and connotes...'

    Define 'one' as it is used here.
    Define in terms of both its qualitative and quantitative referents.
    How do the qualitative and quantitative referents combine to form a consistent and coherent definition?

    Finish this statement 'The term one in the LOO denotes...and connotes...'

    Finish this statement 'The LOO is the law that states....and from this it implies...'

    II. Describe the key principles that the Law of One is based on.

    From what primitive concepts are the LOO derived from?
    How are these primitive concepts combined to create the LOO?
    How are the terms 'absolute' and 'relative' used if they are applicable?

    III. Describe the clauses and/or corollaries to the Law of One.

    Are there sub-sections derived from the LOO in the form of clauses?
    If so what are they? An all-encompassing 'decreed law' would have clauses to address all specific circumstances and conditions. Law of Love? Law of Confusion? How are they derived as clauses?

    Finish this statement 'The Law of Love is a clause derived from the LOO based on...'
     
    Are there inferences or practical consequences to the LOO in the form of corollaries? If not a 'decreed law' then an all-encompassing 'natural law' would have corollaries that logically and naturally follow from the law to explain specific circumstances and conditions. Law of Love? Law of Confusion? How are they derived as corollaries?

    Finish this statement 'The Law of Love is a corollary derived from the LOO based on...'

    Finish this statement 'Intelligent Infinity is a condition or corollary derived from the LOO based on...'

    Finish this statement 'The octaves and densities are conditions or corollaries derived from the LOO based on...'

    IV. Compare the LOO to other Oneness philosophies.

    Does the LOO assert the existence of one fundamental substance as does Substance Monism? If so what is this substance? Is it physical or metaphysical? What are its qualitative and quantitative properties? If not so, what does LOO assert to be fundamental?

    Is the LOO, as it is defined, basically the same as Non-Duality which asserts no division and the Absolute? If so, are the clauses and/or corollaries of Non-Duality derived in a similar manner?

    What type of theism is the LOO Creator based on? Pantheism, pandeism, monotheism? What are the specific characteristics of the LOO's OIC? Is the OIC an omni-God?

    ===================================================
    Opening Statement

    I first critique some Ra statements and then move to the channel session where LOO supporters challenge the IUP. I try to play their role to give you an idea of how to make challenges and to support your claims as would happen in a friendly philosophical debate.

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    From Book 1: Session 1

    Thus, we are speaking to you and accepting both our distortions and your own in order to enunciate the laws of creation, more especially the Law of One.

    What are the Venusians distortions relative to enunciating the laws of creation? Can we assume that they may be at 6.6.6 density which has a strong LOO bias? From this statement why don't they make explicit that the LOO is the fundamental law of creation?

    That which is infinite (ie the set of natural numbers) cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept.

    The set of natural numbers is a countable infinity and contains more than one number which means that it is an infinite plurality. A set or collective is considered a unity or a complete whole, so let's call the set of natural numbers a complete plurality.

    You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

    In short form this statement means 'You are All'. The converse of this statement in short form is  'All is you' or the Law of All.

    The term 'converse' means 'reversed in order, relation or action' so the LoA and LOO have a bipolar reciprocal relationship. They have equal significance which is why IUP = LoA + LOO.

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    On to the channel session.

    Q. We mean no disrespect but we remain skeptical of some of the claims of the IUP.

    You claim that, in theoretical terms, that IUP = LoA + LOO. We have heard from other channel sources, including your Venusian mentors, that theoretically, Oneness or LOO is sufficient to derive all the principles of knowledge and experience.

    We find the LOO as both attractive and compelling as we seek the oneness and harmony of positively polarized 4th density whereby each individual seeks to identify with all others in order to create a robust Social Memory Complex.

    We do acknowledge that this involves a mutually outward and projective focus and CCO/STO which you have stated is the essential nature of LOO or, according to you, that 'One is All'.

    We claim that LOO asserts that Oneness encompasses Allness so therefore LOO encompasses LoA and that the notions of inward and injective focus and CCS/STS are aspects of Oneness and 'All is One' is not distinct from 'One is All', as you would claim.

    We therefore claim that your assumption that IUP = LoA + LOO is extraneous and erroneous unless proven otherwise.

    We would like as proof the following conditions.

    1. Addressing our claim that LOO asserts that Oneness encompasses Allness so therefore LOO encompasses LoA.

    2. More clarity and detail of your definitions of LoA and LOO especially as to how 'One is All' is distinct from 'All is One' -- a distinction which we presently refute.

    3. Provide one or more specific examples of where the IUP supercedes the LOO as necessary in deriving aspects or principles of the Creation. We suggest explaining how the octaves and densities are derived and how they function according to the IUP as opposed to the LOO.

    A. We thank you for being honest and forthcoming regarding your disagreement with our theoretical notion of the IUP.

    We also mean no disrespect to you, to other channels and especially to our beloved Venusian friends who were functioning at a sub-sub-density of 6.6.6D at the time of their transmission of the LOO in our 3rd density. The density of 6.6.6 is an evolutional interval that is particularly focused on LOO principles.

    In addition, their message of the LOO is essential for those entering 4th density and is, as you stated, attractive and compelling and rightfully so because both positive and negative 4D is a LOO motivated density due to outward focus and identification between individuals in order to form a Social Memory Complex.

    We have opened the door to elaborate further on the densities and will do so in the order of your enumerated questions.

    Regarding your first question of -- Addressing our claim that LOO asserts that Oneness encompasses Allness so therefore LOO encompasses LoA.

    In a previous session we stated:

    Unity/Infinity means 'One is All' and is called the Law of One or LOO.

    Colloquially, one can say 'I am All' which allows an outward focus from Oneself to the All.

    For LOO, projection or outward focus is emphasized by stating 'You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation...you are...All.'

    From these statements we consider that LOO asserts that Oneness identifies with Allness but does not encompass Allness and, as a result, LOO does not encompass LoA.

    There was a quote from our Venusian bretheren stating 'Unity contains all and so therefore it cannot abhor any' which we totally agree but there is a distinction between the quantitative 'all' and the qualitative 'Allness' which is subtle but significant and where the application of philosophical analysis is essential to understand such distinctions.

    We would restate that 'Unity is Infinity and therefore contains all'. This makes clear that the qualitative notion of identification entails the quantitative notion of containing.

    Let us refer back to this same session regarding LoA.

    Infinity/Unity means 'All is One' and is called the Law of All or LoA.

    Colloquially, one can say 'All is I' which allows an inward focus from the All to Oneself.

    For LoA, injection or inward focus is emphasized by stating 'Every thing is you, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation...All is...you.'

    From these statements we consider that LoA asserts that Allness identifies with Oneness but does not encompass Oneness and, as a result, LoA does not encompass LOO.

    Let us state that 'Infinity is Unity and therefore contains one' whereby the phrase 'contains one' means 'contains one and only one of itself' and so again the qualitative notion of identification entails the quantitative notion of containing.

    Let us again refer back to the session where we stated:

    There is actually a two-fold reciprocal nature to the IUP. There is the Infinity/Unity aspect and the Unity/Infinity aspect. Existentially, Infinity preceded Unity but found its essence through Unity through focus and formulation and became aware. Unity gains being and awareness through the dynamism and activity of Infinity. Thus these two aspects are equally significant and form a Dyad.

    In this case we do not use the algrebraic notion of Dyad due to the absolute nature of the terms Infinity and Unity and thus express in theoretical terms as IUP = LoA + LOO or colloquially 'All is One and One is All'

    We hope this has sufficiently addressed your 1st question.

    Q. Ah -- we'll get back to you after we do our own philosophical analysis. We appreciate your efforts and look forward to question #2.

    A. We appreciate your healthy skepticism and shall now address your second question of -- More clarity and detail of your definitions of LoA and LOO especially as to how 'One is All' is distinct from 'All is One' -- a distinction which we presently refute.

    We shall now introduce the terms 'absolute' and 'relative' which further clarifies and distinguishes LoA and LOO. The term 'absolute' refers to 'one and only one' as there cannot be more than one absolute Infinity or absolute Unity. The term 'relative' refers to 'more than one' as there can be more than one relative infinity ie countable and uncountable, and more than one relative unity ie unit intervals of a number line.

    LoA -- 'All is One' means 'Absolute All is a relative One-exclusive complete Plurality' where 'relative One-exclusive' translates to 'excludes all but one, and so there is one and only one absolute Infinity'.

    LoO -- 'One is All' means 'Absolute One is a relative All-inclusive complete Singularity' where 'relative All-inclusive' translates to 'includes all to form one and only one absolute Unity'.

    An important point is that in both these definitions the notion of finity is a natural consequence of the absolute/relative dynamic and of terms ie singularity and plurality -- so thus there is a logical and natural emergence of finity and form in Creation.

    In a past session we stated:

    The distinction between LoA and LOO may seem subtle but it is significant for allowing the emergence of polarity and evolution.

    Let us briefly state that 'Oneness is static without Allness and Allness is unfocussed without Oneness' so together they form a dynamic duo and dynamism entails polarity and evolution.

    So, in conclusion, there is a distinction in the manner of complementarity. This complementarity implies a dynamic inseparable duality or unified bipolarity -- a notion that the philosophical system of Non-Duality requires.

    We hope this has sufficiently addressed your 2nd question.

    Q. We will again suspend judgement until we undergo our own philosophical analysis.

    Perhaps the pull of 4D has us in an emotionally biased LOO mode and is clouding our perception of Allness and of LoA. We'll keep an open mind.

    A. We again applaud you for maintaining a healthy discernment while leaving your minds and hearts open.

    We now would like to show where both LoA and LOO as defined by our IUP are clearly necessary to produce polarity and evolution and which we will address in your 3rd question -- Provide one or more specific examples of where the IUP supercedes the LOO as necessary in deriving aspects or principles of the Creation. We suggest explaining how the octaves and densities are derived and how they function according to the IUP as opposed to the LOO.

    We shall now attempt a sufficient explanation.

    The natural bipolar relationship of LoA and LOO allows the bipolar relationship of number as odd/even, prime/composite, predecessor/successor to form 2x2x2 structures called octaves which are based on a natural vibrational or tonal progression which uses doubling effects to distinguish between successive octaves.  

    The IUP asserts the initial notion that 'Infinity is Unity' -- it is the 1st assertion so therefore LoA is assigned #1. 'Unity is Infinity' is the successive 2nd assertion so therefore LOO is assigned #2. These assertions then alternate so that LoA is 1, 3, 5, 7 whereas LOO is 2, 4, 6, 8.

    As previously mentioned, these numbers have vibrational being and, in this case, have beingness as the 8 densities of an octave. So LoA relates to 1D, 3D, 5D and 7D while LOO relates to  2D, 4D, 6D and 8D.

    In other words, the densities of an octave take on the character and motivation of either LoA or LOO with further modification made by the sub-densities within each density which, in turn, has further modification made by the sub-sub-densities, and so on.

    For all practical purposes the sub-sub-density level is sufficient for general evolutional understanding. For example, a density of 3.6.5 has the character and motivation of LoA/LoO/LoA in 3D with a natural evolutional draw to LOO motivated 4D.

    So at this particular stage of 3.6.5D the self-aware 'All is I' character of 3D is modified by the 'I am All' character of a 3D-filtered 6D which, in turn, is modified by the 'All is I' character of a 3D/6D-filtered 5D. As you can see it has a hierarchal and complex interactive structure.

    In addition, this hierarchal density complex in 3D is modified by the ethical bipolar draw of 4D and its 'I am All' character.

    This rich interplay of LoA and LOO through the filterings of number and density is that of a tone poem or chromatic composition -- expressive, dynamic and alive with polarized tension and action.

    We sense a query. Do you wish to respond?

    Q. No, we were just caught off guard with your notion of a density filtering process and of tone poems and chromatic compositions. These are new concepts to consider and to put into perspective.

    A. We suggest opening one's heart and one's intuitive and artistic senses as you consider these concepts. Musical and color arts training is most beneficial in this regard. Let us provide an example that is relevant to your 3D condition..

    To evolve to 3D the need for individuality and self-awareness is motivated by 'All is I' consciousness and inner focus which provides a level of cognition/affection for integrating 1D and 2D consciousness. Once in 3D the 4D consciousness is activated but only faintly until one reaches 3.4D and clear ethical awareness emerges and one evolves beyond a clan or tribal ethic. Notice that 3.4D has LoA/LoO motivation.

    When in LoA/LoA motivated 3.5D one most likely feels as an outcast of the clan or tribe and inner focus and integration takes place in accord with the 'All is I' sub-density. One becomes more open and aware of a global or universal ethic and strives to understand its principles.

    The STS principles are towards understandings and methods of manipulation of clans and tribes for personal power of a CCS nature, whereas STO principles are towards understandings and methods of peaceful coalescing of clans and tribes for personal power of a CCO nature.

    When in LoA/LoO motivated 3.6D one becomes socially involved with others of like mind and ideals which reflects outer focus in accord with the 'I am All' sub-density. Political, military and corporate power structures appeal to the social focus of STS while charity and grassroots movements appeal to the social focus of STO.

    Finally, when an individual is at 3.7D she is experiencing LoA/LoA consciousness and an acute integration of LOO sub-densities 3.2, 3.4, 3.6 with also a strong awareness and draw to LOO motivated 4D. She has also been integrating LoA sub-densities 3.1, 3.3, 3.5 and their lessons and is deciding her ethical 4D fate with much inner reflection and perhaps inner conflict and turmoil. The tone poetic and chromatic drama is being played out on both inner and outer planes of her soul/chakra system and her daily life.

    We wish her well in her efforts to progress to 4D.

    As we mentioned our Venusian friends were at 6.6.6D which reflects LOO/LoO/LoO when offering the LOO to us as we were entering the LOO motivated 4D. That LOO bias tends to overstate LOO and understate LoA and our notion of the IUP.

    We presently exist at 6.7.3D which reflects LOO/LoA/LoA and are motivated by both LOO and LoA as we are drawn to LoA motivated 7D.

    We again sense a query. Do you wish to respond?

    Q. I don't know where to begin. I can relate to that person in 3.7D since that is where we are personally and as a planet. The elaborate interplay of LoA and LOO within myself is such a new concept to consider, but I must admit it has an intellectual elegance.

    A. We understand and offer a few examples. Your breathing in and out is a LoA/LoO process. Your heart beats by contracting and expanding and is a LoA/LoO process. Your inner/outer focus and CCS/CCO is LoA/LoO.

    Also, to understand the dynamic interaction of LoA and LOO throughout 3D we suggest that you consider the idealized developmental evolution of a person from infancy to old age recognizing that at 3.1 an infant experiences itself as the center of the universe while at 3.7 an octogenarian is self-reflecting and inward seeking in preparation for rebirth. As you can see both 3.1 and 3.7 express LoA /LoA or 'All is I' consciousness but with much different levels of maturity.

    Do you have a query?

    Q. Yes, we have a question regarding densities and octaves particularly the discrepancy of 7 densities in an octave which, by definition, should be 8 densities. We noticed that you explicitly enumerated 8 densities per octave. Are we to assume the 8th density of one octave coincides with the 1st density of the next octave and does this directly correspond to the musical diatonic octave?

    A. Yes this is quite true. There is an overlap of 8th density and 1st density from one octave to the next and this indicates further elaboration of the term density and of 8th and 1st density principles.

    In the pure sense, a density is a sub-octave or a minor octave and a sub-density is a sub-sub-octave or sub-minor octave and so on. Octaves within octaves within octaves.

    The term density is used because it is a measure of the degree of intensity of will, love and light and so it is equivalent to a measure of vibrational beingness. Density is likened to a degree of temperature and is convenient and descriptive for determining the evolutional stage of being. Drastic changes take place at a melting point and boiling point degree and similarly at a successive density or stage of evolution.

    Let us now consider the overlap of densities 3.8 and 4.1 which is most relevant for you.

    They both represent the same quantitative degree of intensity but have different qualitative modes and motivations in that 3.8 is LoA/LoO and 4.1 is LOO/LoA. These modes have a complementary and reciprocal relationship and provide the necessary linkage and transition between densities -- in this case between 3D and 4D. These complementary modes also allow for bipolar ethical expression whereby either 4D+ or 4D- is chosen.

    To further elaborate, recall the example of the octogenarian at 3.7D preparing for rebirth. The transition from LoA/LoA of 3.7D to LoA/LoO of 3.8D is the final rebirth phase as one projects out of their physical body using the 'I am All' or LOO state of being to end the LoA mode of 3D. It is a releasing and exiting phase.

    To continue with this example, at rebirth one is now injected into 4.1D which, at LOO/LoA provides the  'All is I' or LoA mode that properly plants or seats the distillations of 3.8D into 4D. It is a collecting and entering phase.

    The blending of 3.8D and 4.1D is likened to a saxaphone and clarinet playing the same note of the same octave. They are of different timber but of the same tonal vibration and therefore this duet is essential for providing the foundation for the rich tone poetic and multi-instrumental ensemble of 4D.

    We sense a conclusion to this rather lengthy exposition is appropriate.  

    Q. Yes, we notice that our channel's voice is getting raspy so we agree that it's time to sign off. Thank you for taking the time to address our conditions. We will digest it carefully and get back to you.

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    Information Saturnian Synchronicities
    Posted by: hubschrauber - 05-08-2015, 11:54 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - No Replies

    Hi guys, I just finished up a blog post about a linkage between the Law of One material and a curious fellow named Norman Bergrun and his book Ringmakers of Saturn. 

    It's about Saturn, it's ring dwelling entities and how the information coincides in more than one way.

    You'll find the post here: The Ringmakers

    Hope you enjoy it. 

    Love & Light to you All.

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      Practical information? Basic Practices to get Started?
    Posted by: QuietObserver - 05-07-2015, 05:34 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (2)

    Before I get to the actual topic, I'd like to introduce myself. I've been referring to the Ra material from time to time to verify or satisfy my curiosity regarding various things I've noticed over the course of my life. And even less often, I would come here to see if any confusion I have come across regarding the Ra material was discussed here by others before me. Some questions were answered, some unanswered, and those unanswered I could live with except for just this one - which brings me to my topic:

    For an average Joe, what practical aspects should I get involved in and how?
    I have always been wanting to free up some time for personal development and now I finally have it. All I really need is a general guide, preferably using supportive information from the Ra material, that I can use as a crutch until I no longer need to consult the Ra material (to be self-sufficient with the Creator, if you will). I noticed that many people are particularly focused on discussing and debating the various topics in the Ra material, which is fine, but I am mainly focused on applying the Law of One in my life and actually experiencing it for myself, which I honestly think is a great thing to do whether or not one is a skeptic of this information; get in there, try something new, and see for yourself, right?

    For starters, I have already confirmed from personal experience that fasting reduces excess nonsensical thoughts and allows me to be more lucid or clearheaded in my daily activities. In the Ra material, you could say I am one of those people not conscious enough to instantly clear my head of thoughts, and so I use fasting in an analogous way to rid my body and mind of anything excessive.

    Diet and Fasting:
    Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we underline and emphasize that this information is not to be understood literally but as a link or psychological nudge for the body and the mind and spirit. Thus it is the care and respect for the self that is the true thing of importance. In this light we may iterate the basic information given for this instrument’s diet. The vegetables, the fruits, the grains, and to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism, the animal products. These are those substances showing respect for the self. In addition, though this has not been mentioned, for this instrument is not in need of purification, those entities in need of purging the self of a poison thought-form or emotion complex do well to take care in following a program of careful fasting until the destructive thought-form has been purged analogously with the by-products of ridding the physical vehicle of excess material. Again you see the value not to the body complex but used as a link for the mind and spirit. Thus self reveals self to self.

    Ra also touches on diet which I had explored on my own to figure my Self out. I had tried going vegan for quite some time but quickly realized my body is not completely able to. Eating fish, modestly, is good enough for me. Other meats are often at risk for being tampered with hormones and steroids, not to mention the stress endured by the animals (selfishly speaking, peer-reviewed articles in popular science journals have shown numerous times that stress can result in negative physical effects, and selflessly speaking, I particularly do not support corporations that profit from killing animals in mostly inhumane ways), which to my belief, will carry on to consumer just like harmful chemicals would. But that's besides the point.

    So to return to the topic, do you have any information (preferably from the Ra material) regarding what to be practiced and how? From my current understanding and research, I am going to probably lead myself into a short fasting period with apples (Ra had mentioned the credibility of Edgar Cayce and Cayce mentioned the digestive cleansing properties of apples), fast for a bit, and slowly return to a lighter diet which will change as I see fit. Of course, I will try to meditate as much as possible despite my current difficulty with clearing the mind, which perhaps will change subsequent to the fasting period. And most importantly, balancing, which I am also having difficulty in understanding (all I could find is that we need an understanding of the energy centers, but perhaps in the future I'll learn on my own how to balance them).

    Meditation Techniques:
    Questioner: Is there a best way to meditate?
    Ra: I am Ra. No.


    Balancing:
    Questioner: How does an individual go about balancing himself? What is the first step?
    Ra: I am Ra. The steps are only one; that is, an understanding of the energy centers which make up the mind/body/spirit complex. This understanding may be briefly summarized as follows. The first balancing is of the Malkuth, or Earth, vibratory energy complex, called the red-ray complex. An understanding and acceptance of this energy is fundamental. The next energy complex, which may be blocked is the emotional, or personal complex, also known as the orange-ray complex. This blockage will often demonstrate itself as personal eccentricities or distortions with regard to self-conscious understanding or acceptance of self.

    The third blockage resembles most closely that which you have called ego. It is the yellow-ray or solar plexus center. Blockages in this center will often manifest as distortions towards power manipulation and other social behaviors concerning those close and those associated with the mind/body/spirit complex. Those with blockages in these first three energy centers, or nexi, will have continuing difficulties in ability to further their seeking of the Law of One.

    The center of heart, or green ray, is the center from which third-density beings may springboard, shall we say, towards infinite intelligence. Blockages in this area may manifest as difficulties in expressing what you may call universal love or compassion.

    The blue-ray center of energy streaming is the center which, for the first time, is outgoing as well as inpouring. Those blocked in this area may have difficulty in grasping the spirit/mind complexes of its own entity and further difficulty in expressing such understandings of self. Entities blocked in this area may have difficulties in accepting communication from other mind/body/spirit complexes.

    The next center is the pineal or indigo-ray center. Those blocked in this center may experience a lessening of the influx of intelligent energy due to manifestations which appear as unworthiness. This is that of which you spoke. As you can see, this is but one of many distortions due to the several points of energy influx into the mind/body/spirit complex. The indigo-ray balancing is quite central to the type of work which revolves about the spirit complex, which has its influx then into the transformation or transmutation of third density to fourth density, it being the energy center receiving the least distorted outpourings of love/light from intelligent energy and having also the potential for the key to the gateway of intelligent infinity.

    The remaining center of energy influx is simply the total expression of the entity’s vibratory complex of mind, body, and spirit. It is as it will be, “balanced” or “imbalanced” has no meaning at this energy level, for it gives and takes in its own balance. Whatever the distortion may be, it cannot be manipulated as can the others and, therefore, has no particular importance in viewing the balancing of an entity.


    Please share any other practical information you have! Thanks!

    EDIT: A couple ones I forgot to mention: Hidden_Hand (whom I believe as a credible source of information) had replied to a question regarding meditation and electronics, and the Ra material once mentioned somewhere that in order to be of service to others, you need to be making a positive impact on people and, in short, he is saying that you need to be out there mixing and mingling with everyone (I apologize for not being able to find that particular excerpt from the Ra material) in order to do so.

    Meditation and Electronics:
    You do work upon yourself, don't you? If not, now would be a good time to start. Sit in silence. Switch off all non essential electrical appliances. Eg; leaving the refrigerator on, would probably be a good idea. (The electromagnetic field they create disturbs your brainwave patterns, and makes it difficult for your mind to achieve the deeper alpha and theta states conducive with relaxing deeply and hearing your inner voice).

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      Longevity?
    Posted by: Plenum - 05-05-2015, 04:39 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (5)

    one of the things that I have struggled with is that I will live a life that will only encompass perhaps 8 decades, as an optimistic measure at the high end.  I don't crave a long life for the sake of it; but rather, that it's taken me almost 4 decades to get where I am now, in terms of balancing, unblocking, and learning to work with catalyst.

    Some part of me thinks of how much potential is lost when human beings are not able to live the 900 year life span that was the preset for a 3rd density incarnation on this planet.  But I can also understand Ra's explanation that people were squandering the opportunities that they were given, and so the life span was reduced so that they weren't exposed to more catalyst than they could utilize.

    "As the third density upon your planet proceeded, as has been discussed, the need for the physical body complex to cease became more rapidly approached due to intensified and more rapidly gained catalyst. This catalyst was not being properly assimilated.

    Therefore, the, shall we say, lifetimes needed to be shorter that learning might continue to occur with the proper rhythm and increment. Thus more and more opportunities have been offered as your density has progressed for disease.
    "

    but Ra did address the issue directly of longevity and long life, when Don asked about using a 'machine' that would increase life span.

    They responded saying that the Harvest is now, and that seeking the 'heart of the self' would be the thing of paramount importance.

    "Ra: I am Ra. The harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions towards longevity, but rather to encourage distortions toward seeking the heart of self, for this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvesting of each mind/body/spirit complex."

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      Recognizing the creator.
    Posted by: BlatzAdict - 05-02-2015, 07:35 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (3)

    6.16 Questioner: What is the position of this planet with respect to progression of the cycle at this time?

    Ra: I am Ra. This sphere is at this time in fourth-dimension vibration. Its material is quite confused due to the society memory complexes embedded in its consciousness. It has not made an easy transition to the vibrations which beckon. Therefore, it will be fetched with some inconvenience.
    6.18 Questioner: After this thirty-year period I am assuming we will be a fourth-dimension or fourth-density planet. Is this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is so.


    Well well well

       
    This is a picture of the signal the earth emits

    This is the signal you recieve into your body when your foot makes a bare electrical connection to the ground grass or river or mud



       
    [font=helvetica, arial, 'lucida grande', sans-serif]This is plants after 2 weeks, 1 is grounded on the right, and the other is not because of that big orange plastic plate. again plants connected to the earth. simple metal rod stuck in the ground, with a wire that goes to this rubber conductive mat.
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    Our standard science model states the schumman ressonance of the planet is 7.83 3rd density.

    Well the last reading of our schumman ressonance of our earth was at 8.11
    http://sosrff.tsu.ru/?page_id=9

    a couple of weeks ago it was at 8.55

    Something is happening to the energetics of the planet.

    With that in mind 
       
    We just went from D2 couple of weeks ago to C2


       

     This is 3 different people's blood test before and 20 minutes after being grounded or connected to the Earth's Energy.


       

    This is plants after 2 weeks, 1 is grounded on the right, and the other is not because of that big orange plastic plate. again plants connected to the earth. simple metal rod stuck in the ground, with a wire that goes to this rubber conductive mat.








    What is the number one nutrient in the world? The energetic frequency of creator. Think about it.


    If it makes any difference, one day, I woke up and I was immediately gravitated to learn all about this in one sitting, without ever having ever known anything about this before. I believe I was guided to this information very deliberately. This can save someone's life, and it can give back one to someone else, there is a paraplegic man who is able to start walking again in this movie because of the grounding research. The cabal will go down once we cut off their sippy cup of payments to pharmaceuticals, payments to all their goods and services. Once we become completely and totally sovereign, we cut it off at the source and end feeding the cancer!

    I have never felt so sure of anything in my life! This must be known heal yourself, heal your body, and get a deeper connection to all that is! All that is, includes our galactic family. So I want to give you a message from them. Channeled by me.

    "Everything is a deliberation or path and way back to being one with the center of all that is of what you are. People stopped referring to earth as home and made it into a portal/door that must be opened in order for there to be home and the great mother is waiting for you to take off your shoes for you are at her home. You were always home, The great deception, was how many degrees of separation could be created between you and home, you ventured far and now we ask that you return home. To the divine mother, who will someday become her own star, her own shining beacon for 6th density life. In order to be sovereign carries the responsibility to know your connection and how it is important at all levels. All levels. Physical mental and spiritual. In the end the entrainment of your vibration to all that is, is the liberation. Your removal of yourselves from the psuedo grid that has been created is yours to utilize. Most of your cities are mass resonance grids, that once understood can be quickly co-opted for the good. We have much to accomplish and many tentacles of the octopus to remove, and we can begin this transition at all levels. Alll levels. There is only light and love, and without such fear, we can move this mountain together. We watch your skies, despite your media reports, and your light has allowed us to disable all of your probabilities of mass disaster. Ask and ye shall receive, yet ask daily as free will is always in the Now moment. 

    There are no cash cards, no credit due, we love you dearly, and we observe each of your individual paths. Know this, all is in conscientious harmony to you and there can be no room for error, since it comes as you say in divine timing. "

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