"If one is illuminated, are not all illuminated?"



what does "true simultaneity" mean to u?

"True simultaneity is available only when all things are seen to be occurring at once."

to me this means it's possible to make all things occur at once - if only briefly. that's a deep thought...or either just confusing bc of the "if only briefly"

if everything can happen in the same moment...
then that moment is in both the past and the present somehow since we're experiencing a moment in time...

in order for all things to occur at once they have to occur in their entirety so that would mean all is completed & whole & thus perfect & therefore has occurred (at the same time)

fate is both written & before us. written & experienced by no one other than us with an entirely free will. it's both in the past and the present somehow...like everything. the past & the present must not be separate at all which make sense since we kno all is connected. the present must be an illusion

one moment is all there is & we're clearly that moment so we're all there is. that moment is the one infinite creator & we are constantly beholding it as well as being it

everything that can happen not only can happen but has happened and is happening at the same time

the future is an illusion. present & future are mayb more of an illusion than the past perhaps...movement, illusion. growth, illusion. illusion, usually fun. everything happening & happening at once = best present ever. everything was born into existence at the same time & completed at the same time & occurs at the same time which mayb somewhat illuminates just how powerful the creator may be

edit: confusion cleared: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...#pid156075

Ra has quite a bit to say about yellow ray, but it is scattered in various observations throughout the Material. But it is helpful to collect, and perhaps put a spotlight on this all important pivot ray.

1) Yellow Ray is one of the primary rays:

Quote:41.25 Ra: I am Ra. We cannot say what may seem profound to an entity. The red, yellow, and blue rays are primary because they signify activity of a primary nature.

Red ray is the foundation; orange ray the movement towards yellow ray which is the ray of self-awareness and interaction. Green ray is the movement through various experiences of energy exchanges having to do with compassion and all-forgiving love to the primary blue ray which is the first ray of radiation of self regardless of any actions from another.

Quote:39.10 The next foundation ray is yellow. This is the great stepping stone ray. At this ray the mind/body potentiates to its fullest balance.

The strong red/orange/yellow triad springboards the entity into the center ray of green. This is again a basic ray but not a primary ray. This is the resource for spiritual work.

Quote:102.11 102.11 Questioner: Now, is there— the two areas then that the instrument can look to for curing this problem… I understand that the yellow-ray blockage problem has completely repaired, shall I say. If this is not correct, could you make suggestions on that, please?

Ra: I am Ra. Each entity must, in order to completely unblock yellow ray, love all which are in relationship to it, with hope only of the other-selves’ joy, peace, and comfort.

Quote:41.14 The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true color, green, acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self or green ray. This may not be seen to be of a negatively polarized nature, as the negatively polarized entity is working very intensively with the deepest manifestations of yellow-ray group energies, especially the manipulations of other-self for service to self.

Those reverting to orange ray, and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time, are those who feel the vibrations of true color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self.

However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus.

Quote:54.25 Contrary-wise, the positively oriented entity will be transmuting strong red-ray sexual energy into green-ray energy transfers and radiation in blue and indigo and will be similarly transmuting selfhood and place in society into energy transfer situations in which the entity may merge with and serve others and then, finally, radiate unto others without expecting any transfer in return.

Hi,

First of all, I would like to express my respect for your faith, teaching and spreading of the Law of One for so long time.

During the last months, I have been study the Rá Material deeply in order to understand better its pantheist concept that everything is the Creator, but I confess you I have serious difficulty, so I decide to ask your help.

I believe that intelligence must support my faith in our Creator and in function of that since 1984, I have been studying and tring to live in accordance to the teachings of the Douctrine of the Spirits.

In order to understand my doubts on Ra material mentioned above, please, let me present you the Spirits' Book - first chapter about God, published in 1857 that I believe shall be self explanatory.

Thank you in advance for your comments.

From: http://spiritwritings.com/kardecspiritsbook1.html#God

BOOK FIRST -- CAUSES
CHAPTER I
GOD

1. GOD AND INFINITY - 2. PROOFS OF THE EXISTENCE OF GOD - 3. ATTRIBUTES OF THE DIVINITY - 4. PANTHEISM

God and Infinity

1. What is God?

"God is the Supreme Intelligence--First Cause of all things."

2. What is to be understood by infinity?

"That which has neither beginning nor end; the unknown: all that is unknown is infinite."

3. Can it be said that God is infinity?

"An incomplete definition. Poverty of human speech incompetent to define what transcends human intelligence."

God is infinite in His perfections, but "infinity" is an abstraction. To say that God is infinity is to substitute the attribute of a thing for the thing itself, and to define something unknown by reference to some other thing equally unknown.
Proofs of the Existence of God

4. What proof have we of the existence of God?

"The axiom which you apply in all your scientific researches, 'There is no effect without a cause.' Search out the cause of whatever is not the work of man, and reason will furnish the answer to your question."

To assure ourselves of the existence of God, we have only to look abroad on the works of creation. The universe exists, therefore it has a cause. To doubt the existence of God is to doubt that every effect has a cause, and to assume that something can have been made by nothing.

5. What is to be inferred from the intuition of the existence of God which may be said to be the common property of the human mind?

"That God exists; for whence could the human mind derive this intuition if it had no real basis? The inference to be drawn from the fact of this intuition is a corollary of the axiom 'There is no effect without a cause.'"

6. May not our seemingly intuitive sense of the existence of God be the result of education and of acquired ideas?

"If such were the case, how should this intuitive sense be possessed by your savages?"

If the intuition of the existence of a Supreme Being were only the result of education, it would not be universal, and would only exist, like all other acquired knowledge, in the minds of those who had received the special education to which it would be due.

7. Is the first cause of the formation of things to be found in the essential properties of matter?

"If such were the case, what would be the cause of those properties? There must always be a first cause."

To attribute the first formation of things to the essential properties of matter, would be to take the effect for the cause, for those properties are themselves an effect, which must have a cause.

8. What is to be thought of the opinion that attributes the first formation of things to a fortuitous combination of matter, in other words, to chance?

"Another absurdity! Who that is possessed of common sense can regard chance as an intelligent agent? And, besides, what is chance? Nothing."

The harmony which regulates the mechanism of the universe can only result from combinations adopted in view of predetermined ends, and thus, by its very nature, reveals the existence of an Intelligent Power. To attribute the first formation of things to chance is nonsense for chance cannot produce the results of intelligence. If chance could be intelligent, it would cease to be chance.

9. What proof have we that the first cause of all things is a Supreme Intelligence, superior to all other intelligences?

"You have a proverb which says, 'The workman is known by his work.' Look around you, and, from the quality of the work, infer that of the workman."

We judge of the power of an intelligence by its works as no human being could create that which is produced by nature, it is evident that the first cause must be an Intelligence superior to man. Whatever may be the prodigies accomplished by human intelligence, that intelligence itself must have a cause and the greater the results achieved by it, the greater must be the cause of which it is the effect. It is this Supreme Intelligence that is the first cause of all things, whatever the name by which mankind may designate it.

Attributes of the Divinity

10. Can man comprehend the essential nature of God?

"No; he lacks the sense required for comprehending it."

11. Will man ever become able to comprehend the mystery of the Divinity?

"When his mind shall no longer be obscured by matter, and when, by his perfection, he shall have brought himself nearer to God, be will see and comprehend Him."

The inferiority of the human faculties renders it impossible for man to comprehend the essential nature of God. In the infancy of the race, man often confounds the Creator with the creature, and attributes to the former the imperfections of the latter. But, in proportion as his moral sense becomes developed, man's thought penetrates more deeply into the nature of things, and he is able to form to himself a juster and more rational idea of the Divine Being, although his idea of that Being must always be imperfect and incomplete.

12. If we cannot comprehend the essential nature of God, can we have an idea of some of His perfections?

"Yes, of some of them. Man comprehends them better in proportion as he raises himself above matter; he obtains glimpses of them through the exercise of his intelligence."

13. When we say that God is eternal, infinite, unchangeable, immaterial, unique, all-powerful, sovereignty just and good, have we not a complete idea of His attributes?

"Yes, judging from your point of view, because you think that you sum up everything in those terms; but you must understand that there are things which transcend the intelligence of the most intelligent man, and for which your language, limited to your ideas and sensations, has no expressions. Your reason tells you that God must possess those perfections in the supreme degree; for, if one of them were lacking, or were not possessed by Him in an infinite degree, He would riot be superior to all, and consequently would not be God. In order to be above all things, God must undergo no vicissitudes, He must have none of the imperfections of which the imagination can conceive."

God is eternal. If He had had a beginning, He must either have sprung from nothing, or have been created by some being anterior to Himself. It is thus that, step by step, we arrive at the idea of infinity and eternity.

God is unchangeable. If He were subject to change, the laws which rule the universe would have no stability.

God is immaterial, that is to say, that His nature differs from everything that we call matter, or otherwise. He would not be unchangeable, for He would be subject to the transformations of matter.

God is unique. If there were several Gods, there would be neither unity of plan nor unity of power in the ordaining of the universe.

God is all-powerful because He is unique. If He did not possess sovereign power, there would be something more powerful, or no less powerful, than Himself. He would not have created all things and those which He had not created would be the work of another God.

God is sovereignty just and good. The providential wisdom of the divine laws is revealed as clearly in the smallest things as in the greatest and this wisdom renders it impossible to doubt either His justice or His goodness.

Pantheism

14. Is God a being distinct from the universe, or is He, according to the opinion of some, the result of all the forces and intelligences of the universe?

"If the latter were the case, God would not be God, for He would be effect and not cause; He cannot be both cause and effect."

"God exists. You cannot doubt His existence, and that is one essential point. Do not seek to go beyond it; do not lose yourselves in a labyrinth which, for you, is without an issue. Such inquiries would not make you better; they would rather tend to add to your pride, by causing you to imagine that you knew something, while, in reality, you would know nothing. Put aside systems. You have things enough to think about that concern you much more nearly, beginning with yourselves. Study your own imperfections, that you may get rid of them; this will be far more useful to you than the vain attempt to penetrate the impenetrable."

15. What is to be thought of the opinion according to which all natural bodies, all the beings, all the globes of the universe are parts of the Divinity, and constitute in their totality the Divinity itself; in other words the Pantheistic theory?

"Man, not being able to make himself God, would fain make himself out to be, at least, a part of God."

16. Those who hold this theory profess to find in it the demonstration of some of the attributes of God. The worlds of the universe being infinitely numerous, God is thus seen to be infinite; vacuum, or nothingness, being nowhere, God is everywhere: God being everywhere, since everything is an integral part of God, He is thus seen to be the intelligent cause of all the phenomena of the universe. What can we oppose to this argument?

"The dictates of reason. Reflect on the assumption in question, and you will have no difficulty in detecting its absurdity."

The Pantheistic theory makes of God a material being, who, though endowed with a supreme intelligence, would only be on a larger scale what we are on a smaller one. But, as matter is incessantly undergoing transformation, God, if this theory were true, would have no stability. He would be subject to all the vicissitudes, and even to all the needs, of humanity He would lack one of the essential attributes of the Divinity, namely, unchangeableness. The properties of matter cannot be attributed to God without degrading our idea of the Divinity and all the subtleties of sophistry fail to solve the problem of His essential nature. We do not know what God is; but we know that it is impossible that He should not be and the theory just stated is in contradiction with His most essential attributes. It confounds the Creator with the creation, precisely as though we should consider an ingenious machine to be an integral portion of the mechanician who invented it.

The intelligence of God is revealed in His works, as is that of a painter in his picture; but the works of God are no more God Himself than the picture is the artist who conceived and painted it.

I had always assumed that a fully crystallised being would be free of distortion (as we understand it).

This quote from Ra however, which I evidently missed with each iteration through the material, states otherwise:

Quote:In a balanced individual each energy center is balanced and functioning brightly and fully. The blockages of your planetary sphere cause some distortion of intelligent energy. The blockages of the mind/body/spirit complex further distort or unbalance this energy. There is one energy. It may be understood as love/light or light/love or intelligent energy.

Quote:9.21 Questioner: Are they Bigfoot-type creatures?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct although we would not call these Bigfoot, as they are scarce and are very able to escape detection. The first race is less able to be aware of proximity of other mind/body/spirit complexes, but these beings are very able to escape due to their technological understandings before their incarnations here. These entities of the glowing eyes are those most familiar to your peoples.

why are things the way they are? why is my life the way it is?

these questions can often arise when we become confused and lost as to what our purpose here is in this incarnation.

it might seem a leap of faith, but there indeed were Choices and Decisions made before coming down into the body; decisions that were definitive and almost like the laying down of rail-lines, in terms of lessons and progress.

Ra offers a few thoughts:

re: Carla's choice

Quote:60.8 Ra: I am Ra. As we have said, this instrument, feeling that it lacked compassion to balance wisdom, chose an incarnative experience whereby it was of necessity placed in situations of accepting self in the absence of other-selves’ acceptance and the acceptance of other-self without expecting a return or energy transfer. This is not an easy program for an incarnation but was deemed proper by this entity.

Quote:50.5 Agreements were made prior to incarnation; the first, with the so-called parents and siblings of this entity. This provided the experiential catalyst for the situation of offering radiance of being without expectation of return. The second program involved agreements with several entities. These agreements provided and will provide, in your time/space and space/time continuum, opportunities for the experiential catalyst of work and comradeship.

Quote:33.6 The incarnating entity which has become conscious of the incarnative process and thus programs its own experience may choose the amount of catalyst or, to phrase this differently, the number of lessons which it will undertake to experience and to learn from in one incarnation.

This does not mean that all is predestined, but rather that there are invisible guidelines shaping events which will function according to this programming.

Thus if one opportunity is missed another will appear until the, shall we say, student of the life experience grasps that a lesson is being offered and undertakes to learn it.

Quote:50.5 There are events which were part of a program for this entity only in that they were possibility/probability vortices having to do with your societal culture. These events include the nature of the living or standard of living, the type of relationships entered into in your legal framework, and the social climate during the incarnation. The incarnation was understood to be one which would take place at harvest.

this is a phrase that is found in Ra in a few places -

"the balancing of love and wisdom",

and I was wondering as to its particular aspects, and what it meant for me.

I thought about it consciously for a little bit, and didn't make too much progress. Nothing that seemed deep anyway.

I then had a dream later in the day, and it yielded a metaphor that seemed somewhat useful (and elucidating) to me.

what I saw was this:

there were two rooftops separated by a distance. There was one person on each rooftop. (obviously the self on one rooftop, and the 'other-self' on the other rooftop).

various sitations played out. The initial stages involved the throwing of a rope from one side to the other, so that a 'connection' was possible. Once the initial 'connection' was made, it was possible to build a rope bridge with planks, so that eventually one could cross from one side to the other. Other attempts were made where I tried to create/throw the rope bridge before the initial connection was made. And the 'bridge' would fall flat downwards, and not reach the other side, despite how close it would get to the other building.

anyway, this was how I understood it:

initial rope/connection = love, compassion, acceptance of the other self.

creating the bridge = wisdom, knowing how to assist, how to be of the most appropriate service, given the circumstances.

all attempts at positivity are dependent upon green first, then blue. Without the green (initial connection, acceptance of the other self), attempts to 'create a bridge' will just fall downwards, as there is no 'connection' between the two sides. You are just 'talking to yourself' in that situation. There is no empathy or compassion undergirding the other efforts.

once the rope is established, then a bridge can be built out, so that the most appropriate service can be offered (wisdom).

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Using this metaphor, the 'balancing' of the love/wisdom aspects can be seen to be quite a few.

if one chooses love over wisdom, one can spend a lot of time empathising with someone, consoling them, establishing connections, expressing feelings, being compassionate, establishing commonality, etc etc. These are all GREAT THINGS, and emphasise the commonality of all beings. There will be lots of connections made from one side (one rooftop) to the other side (the other self).

but without the wisdom aspect, one is unable to offer direct assistance that may be pertinent to their situation.

but too much wisdom, without establishing enough connections first (empathy, acceptance, compassion) will just lead to one throwing things over the side of the building, in the hopes it might reach the other side. And without the other self first accepting your connection ('love'), they will not acknowledge your bridge, even though the offering of the bridge itself might be quite a catalyst in itself, and of utility in its own way. But such an attempt would not be rooted enough in green ray acceptance.

what was also shown in the dream was that this balancing of 'love and wisdom' was time dependent; in that when it plays out in 'real life' it is heavily context dependent.

anyway, I am sure that this is not the 'complete picture' of how love/wisdom interact, but is just a spotlight on some important aspect of it was playing out for me.

I'd be interested in hearing your own thoughts on the matter, and any personal experiences that you've had.

I know more than one member has expressed in the past that they thought that they needed more 'love' to balance their wisdom, and vice-versa.

cheers!

plenum

Blue Ray is many things, but I just want to highlight some of the more relevant aspects to communication and understanding.

Ra makes a couple of references to blue-ray as encompassing the quality of 'communication'.

and before one can communicate, one has to be able to 'understand' what one is trying to communicate, and one has to be able to 'articulate it'; or put it in a form that others can understand.

now this 'communication' is not necessarily by the means of words; it can definitely be done through the means of music and visual art. It can be portrayed by a movie. But the important thing is that there is a set of 'patterns' being offered, and that these patterns are able to be comprehended by the other self.

this is what blue-ray is about:

"54.31 The green-ray type of radiation in this case is the healing, the blue-ray the communication and inspiration, the indigo that energy of the adept which has its place in faith."

and examples of 'soul mates', or those who have worked together in previous incarnations having almost 'immediate access' to blue ray communications with each other. There is a sense of - "I know you, and you know me. We can instantly be honest with each other".

Quote:84.20 In the blue-ray energy transfer the quality of this love is refined in the fire of honest communication and clarity; this, shall we say, normally, meaning in general, takes a substantial portion of your space/time to accomplish although there are instances of matings so well refined in previous incarnations and so well remembered that the blue ray may be penetrated at once.

Quote:48.7 Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self.

84.21 If, by the same entities’ exchange, greater ease in communication and greater sight has been experienced, the energy has been refined to the blue-ray energy center.

Quote:15.12 The blue-ray center of energy streaming is the center which, for the first time, is outgoing as well as inpouring. Those blocked in this area may have difficulty in grasping the spirit/mind complexes of its own entity and further difficulty in expressing such understandings of self. Entities blocked in this area may have difficulties in accepting communication from other mind/body/spirit complexes.

The recent thread about will and faith reminded me of something I wanted to post.

I have found that by simply holding onto the intention that you wish to serve others and know the truth is fundamental and will help greatly. This has always been present in my life in one form or another, but we tend to get stuck in our beliefs and are therefore not open to receive greater understanding. This simple truth of releasing what we know and purely holding onto the intention of service so that we may grow is something that we seem to forget and overlook.

In times of great misunderstanding and confusion, I have always called upon the desire to know and serve in a humble manner, and clarity always presented itself. Clarity has sometimes taken months, but focusing the will in this positive manner seems to also involve aid and guidance from others: "This positive light strength, however, operates also under free will and must be invoked."

So by focusing the will to serve humbly, balance can be streamlined. I would say that this comes with a warning in that many parts of yourself will be tested. Part of indigo balancing is learning to love and accept yourself, so discovering the boundaries of personal requirement and greater truth is delicate.

Does LOO shed any light on this commandment?

I always thought it was "Thou shalt not kill," and now I find that the Hebrew said "Thou shalt not murder," and didn't mention killing in general.

I am curious as to what perspective Ra would bring to this.