12/21/2012: David Wilcock, Harvest, Ra, New Age Gurus. What does it all mean?

[AnthroHeart]

(i wish u'd try quitting ur meds just to make sure u still need them.)

I quit them 3 different times in the past, and flipped out each time. By flipped out, I mean freaked out and hallucinated things. And this last time was the worst in one regard. Not so much a mindfu** like the first time was.

I can still meditate and work with my guardian angel while I'm on them. I just lose a bit of the more psychic stuff.

[xise]

(i wish u'd try quitting ur meds just to make sure u still need them.)

I quit them 3 different times in the past, and flipped out each time. By flipped out, I mean freaked out and hallucinated things. And this last time was the worst in one regard. Not so much a mindfu** like the first time was.

I can still meditate and work with my guardian angel while I'm on them. I just lose a bit of the more psychic stuff.

I've worked with people who have tried to get off meds but couldn't after taking too much lsd (40-50x hits at once as a dare) even 10 years after the experience.

[zenmaster]

(i wish u'd try quitting ur meds just to make sure u still need them.)

I quit them 3 different times in the past, and flipped out each time. By flipped out, I mean freaked out and hallucinated things. And this last time was the worst in one regard. Not so much a mindfu** like the first time was.

I can still meditate and work with my guardian angel while I'm on them. I just lose a bit of the more psychic stuff.

I've worked with people who have tried to get off meds but couldn't after taking too much lsd (40-50x hits at once as a dare) even 10 years after the experience.

Would not recommend a schizophrenic get off their meds, there is a reason the are in within our care...

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Wishful thinking.... rarely pans out. Right?

Back to Wilcock. Was he over-optimistic now that we have the 20/20 hindsight? Yes.

Were we foolish or gullible to hold an unrealistic vision of relief from negative rulership? Maybe, maybe not. Holding a positive vision of anything has merit.

I hope DW can be a little more upfront about his own disappointment with some of his sources, and how he got fooled from time to time. The fact that he's not perfect actually allows me to appreciate him more.

Hi! Mercury retrograde, long time no posting! I'm an astrologer and never believed in the instant ascension thingy since there was nothing special in the mundane chart on Dec 21 2012. I never mentioned it to anybody and even felt ashamed merely considering it being an option and also making me question other things David says. As for myself i was suffering heavily from Lymedisease and for sure i almost wished to die if this was to continue. Of course i was influenced by the perspective but only in a negative way, just felt i've still got too much to accomplish and learn in 3D.

David actually wrote something almost hilarius about what happened to him on this date in his blog: He injured his toe veeery badly Talking about a stepping stone! And admitted his wishful thinking. For the rest of the insider info i don't know, always had a creepy feeling about Fulford.

I'm reading The Synchronicity Key at the moment, incredibly fascinating where he connects the dots between cycles and historical events repeating.

Since i started the reading synchronicties manifest so quickly i can't even keep track of them although i've had them frequently for 20 years now.

[isis]

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(i wish u'd try quitting ur meds just to make sure u still need them.)

I quit them 3 different times in the past, and flipped out each time. By flipped out, I mean freaked out and hallucinated things. And this last time was the worst in one regard. Not so much a mindfu** like the first time was.

I can still meditate and work with my guardian angel while I'm on them. I just lose a bit of the more psychic stuff.

the 3 times u quit in the past were b4 12/21/12, correct? & u feel they make u lose a bit of the psychic stuff...so i still think u should give it a try once more. keep in mind, this isn't just me saying this to u rite now this is u saying this to u thru me -- this is the creator saying this to u.

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Wishful thinking.... rarely pans out. Right?

Back to Wilcock. Was he over-optimistic now that we have the 20/20 hindsight? Yes.

Were we foolish or gullible to hold an unrealistic vision of relief from negative rulership? Maybe, maybe not. Holding a positive vision of anything has merit.

I hope DW can be a little more upfront about his own disappointment with some of his sources, and how he got fooled from time to time. The fact that he's not perfect actually allows me to appreciate him more.

Hi! Mercury retrograde, long time no posting! I'm an astrologer and never believed in the instant ascension thingy since there was nothing special in the mundane chart on Dec 21 2012. I never mentioned it to anybody and even felt ashamed merely considering it being an option and also making me question other things David says. As for myself i was suffering heavily from Lymedisease and for sure i almost wished to die if this was to continue. Of course i was influenced by the perspective but only in a negative way, just felt i've still got too much to accomplish and learn in 3D.

David actually wrote something almost hilarius about what happened to him on this date in his blog: He injured his toe veeery badly Talking about a stepping stone! And admitted his wishful thinking. For the rest of the insider info i don't know, always had a creepy feeling about Fulford.

I'm reading The Synchronicity Key at the moment, incredibly fascinating where he connects the dots between cycles and historical events repeating.

Since i started the reading synchronicties manifest so quickly i can't even keep track of them although i've had them frequently for 20 years now.

lillian!!! i've missed u! remember when u told me about how u, "Turned on the computor: Time was 22.22" rite after i had gotten the 2 o'clock sync? ever since then i've been catching the clock at 2:22 & seeing twos so goddamn much. i'm about to move to a new apartment & guess what the number will be? 202!

jw, do u kno what wilcock did to hurt his toe? my guess is he got angry & kicked the hell out of a wall or something like that. sometimes i think wilcock is the cause of the synchronicity phenomenon...what do u think of this? he does teach that ppl think he's the father of every1 & the 1st white man on earth...he was just featured in my dream last nite & he had constructed a ride like the kind u see at carnivals & it looked like an amazing ride. i heard lots of ppl making a big deal about it.

Well look at the top of your post, you modified it at 4.44 and time here is 11.00 AM

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(i wish u'd try quitting ur meds just to make sure u still need them.)

I quit them 3 different times in the past, and flipped out each time. By flipped out, I mean freaked out and hallucinated things. And this last time was the worst in one regard. Not so much a mindfu** like the first time was.

I can still meditate and work with my guardian angel while I'm on them. I just lose a bit of the more psychic stuff.

the 3 times u quit in the past were b4 12/21/12, correct? & u feel they make u lose a bit of the psychic stuff...so i still think u should give it a try once more. keep in mind, this isn't just me saying this to u rite now this is u saying this to u thru me -- this is the creator saying this to u.

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Wishful thinking.... rarely pans out. Right?

Back to Wilcock. Was he over-optimistic now that we have the 20/20 hindsight? Yes.

Were we foolish or gullible to hold an unrealistic vision of relief from negative rulership? Maybe, maybe not. Holding a positive vision of anything has merit.

I hope DW can be a little more upfront about his own disappointment with some of his sources, and how he got fooled from time to time. The fact that he's not perfect actually allows me to appreciate him more.

Hi! Mercury retrograde, long time no posting! I'm an astrologer and never believed in the instant ascension thingy since there was nothing special in the mundane chart on Dec 21 2012. I never mentioned it to anybody and even felt ashamed merely considering it being an option and also making me question other things David says. As for myself i was suffering heavily from Lymedisease and for sure i almost wished to die if this was to continue. Of course i was influenced by the perspective but only in a negative way, just felt i've still got too much to accomplish and learn in 3D.

David actually wrote something almost hilarius about what happened to him on this date in his blog: He injured his toe veeery badly Talking about a stepping stone! And admitted his wishful thinking. For the rest of the insider info i don't know, always had a creepy feeling about Fulford.

I'm reading The Synchronicity Key at the moment, incredibly fascinating where he connects the dots between cycles and historical events repeating.

Since i started the reading synchronicties manifest so quickly i can't even keep track of them although i've had them frequently for 20 years now.

lillian!!! i've missed u! remember when u told me about how u, "Turned on the computor: Time was 22.22" rite after i had gotten the 2 o'clock sync? ever since then i've been catching the clock at 2:22 & seeing twos so goddamn much. i'm about to move to a new apartment & guess what the number will be? 202!

jw, do u kno what wilcock did to hurt his toe? my guess is he got angry & kicked the hell out of a wall or something like that. sometimes i think wilcock is the cause of the synchronicity phenomenon...what do u think of this? he does teach that ppl think he's the father of every1 & the 1st white man on earth...he was just featured in my dream last nite & he had constructed a ride like the kind u see at carnivals & it looked like an amazing ride. i heard lots of ppl making a big deal about it.

Well look at the top of your post, you modified it at 4.44 and time here is 11.00 AM..just switched to 11.01

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What! 2 posts?? The computor didn't want to connect at first and i pressed the send button again..Mercury is retrograding: communication problems, doing things over and over again, old friends and themes popping up...

[Hototo]

Even facebook is not working well apparently

[AnthroHeart]

Facebook for me often freezes up, so I have to close it down because it affects my bring4th browsing as well.

[rcook]

Facebook for me often freezes up, so I have to close it down because it affects my bring4th browsing as well.

I am new to this and trying to see if this thing works.
On December 21, 2012, there was a huge uproar of jokes from people making fun of it all followed by their going back to sleep in all the usual ways.

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[transiten]

Facebook for me often freezes up, so I have to close it down because it affects my bring4th browsing as well.

I am new to this and trying to see if this thing works.
On December 21, 2012, there was a huge uproar of jokes from people making fun of it all followed by their going back to sleep in all the usual ways.

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Of course, this doesn't mean change isn't happening but it's gradual not instant (for most of us, some know how to attain a rainbow body but that takes some training just listen to mainstream media and ordinairy pple calling radioshows almost sounding like us "conspiracy theorists" on bring4th, DivineCosmos and Avalon

[AnthroHeart]

So nothing happened. It's December 21st 2012 and nothing has happened.

No alien disclosure

No ufo landing

No mass ascension

No mass arrests

No end to the Illuminati

No telekinesis, telepathy, or levitation

What now? The New Age gurus hyped this date up so much. What will happen now?

David Wilcock is probably one of the people in the most trouble. He has been preaching a "discontinuous shift" since the 90s. He said there will be mass ascension, telekinesis, levitation, telepathy, alien landings, UFOs offering to take people away, and many other things. He said they would happen today. He said it would be the most beautiful and mind blowing spiritual thing that ever happened to anyone. He said this point was some kind of singularity and we would enter into 4D and have light bodies and so on.

The Law of One (at least in one reading) proposed a discontinuous shift that would take place in 2011. It said there would be many children with magical powers--levitation, telekinesis, etc. Some rounded this date off to 2012. What now? What does this mean for the eschatology of the Ra Material?

I had a mental breakdown close to December 21, 2012. Guess the energies were too much for me.

[transiten]

So nothing happened. It's December 21st 2012 and nothing has happened.

No alien disclosure

No ufo landing

No mass ascension

No mass arrests

No end to the Illuminati

No telekinesis, telepathy, or levitation

What now? The New Age gurus hyped this date up so much. What will happen now?

David Wilcock is probably one of the people in the most trouble. He has been preaching a "discontinuous shift" since the 90s. He said there will be mass ascension, telekinesis, levitation, telepathy, alien landings, UFOs offering to take people away, and many other things. He said they would happen today. He said it would be the most beautiful and mind blowing spiritual thing that ever happened to anyone. He said this point was some kind of singularity and we would enter into 4D and have light bodies and so on.

The Law of One (at least in one reading) proposed a discontinuous shift that would take place in 2011. It said there would be many children with magical powers--levitation, telekinesis, etc. Some rounded this date off to 2012. What now? What does this mean for the eschatology of the Ra Material?

I had a mental breakdown close to December 21, 2012. Guess the energies were too much for me.

[transiten]

I already had Lyme at that time and on top of that caught a horrible influenza and I was absolutely sure nothing hughe would happen in the world and that i would not ascend, which doesn't mean David's got it all wrong....now he says 2017 is The Year"...what do I know??? On the ohter hand I'm not as hyped anymore, living a more grounded life although synchronicities are as abundant as usual in my life. Today is an Ok day after a Herx crash and tomorrow I will attend a fokmusic gatheríng and will play fiddle with a new aquaintance, a woman who has survived cancer the "mainstream way"....

[Bluebell]

things happened that day. it's just David got carried away as usual.

[Namaste]

One more quote:

63.20 Questioner: OK. Now as this transition continues into fourth-density activation, in order to inhabit this fourth-density sphere it will be necessary for all third-density physical bodies to go through the process which we refer to as death. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

I will never understand why, or how, anyone ignores these quotes directly from Ra, and argues the notion of instant ascension. Ra states more than once that death is the window.

Do not place any hopes on instant ascension. Be open to it (I most certainly am), but do not live for it or plan your life around it. Live your life by the guidelines given by Ra as to balance the Self and crystallise the rays. That's all we need do. In doing so we will attract/match the best possible circumstances to us. That could be instant ascension, or it could be new perceptions.

Also remember, those wanting to suddenly get new abilities, Wanderers are not able to use them, as they would infringe upon the free will of others by demonstrating them. Again, direct words from Ra.

David Wilcock is now stating that 2017 is the 'actual' date for some huge cosmic event, and again, I would take that with a pinch of salt as the man is very much distorted towards instant ascension. Why? Because his is well and truly attached to that notion. It's the driving force behind everything he does.

Live you life as fully as you can, it's a gift to be here (knowing that will open your indigo ray), and keep finding love in the moment. All will be well :¬)

[ree]

David Wilcock is now stating that 2017 is the 'actual' date for some huge cosmic event, and again, I would take that with a pinch of salt as the man is very much distorted towards instant ascension. Why? Because his is well and truly attached to that notion. It's the driving force behind everything he does.

Do you think instant ascension is similar to the christian idea of rapture? When I watch DW or evangelical christians' videos, to me, it sounds like the same or similar idea lol.

[Bluebell]

LOL he's a preacher alright

[Namaste]

There is a very apt saying that when someone doesn't fully believe their beliefs they will do everything in their power to attempt to get others to believe in it (as that strengthens their own belief). Those who believe 100% have nothing to prove and are more relaxed in their manner.

While that doesn't always apply, it could be a link between DW and Rapture :¬) After 2012 not happening DW must have had some serious internal work to do.

[Bluebell]

maybe but he's still doing that raptor thing. now it's blue avians.

[outerheaven]

For a guy so concerned with making money, it's not a stretch for me to think he might be intentionally leading people astray.

Big money in hope and distraction.

[ree]

The First Church of Hopium

[Bluebell]

well i hope he's not.

[ree]

maybe but he's still doing that raptor thing. now it's blue avians.

Isn't the storyline the same... some savior aliens cutting deal w/ illuminaughty (lol you taught me that phrase right)

[Bluebell]

lol. it's always that deal w the devil with David and it's fishy as fudge.

[Jade]

If you're trying to escape Earth in an instant, you are most likely not ready for Harvest anyway. He's exposing/reflecting a red-ray blockage.

[Bluebell]

i have that too. =/

[Namaste]

If you're trying to escape Earth in an instant, you are most likely not ready for Harvest anyway. He's exposing/reflecting a red-ray blockage.

Bingo :¬)

Some of those who wish to escape have more balancing to do than those who do not. This experience is not about leaving it behind, it's about accepting it.

61.9 Questioner: This brings out the point of the purpose for the physical incarnation, I believe. And that is to reach a conviction through your own thought processes as to a solution to problems and understandings in a totally unbiased or totally free situation with no proof at all or anything that you would consider proof, proof being a very poor word in itself. Can you expand on my concept?

Ra: I am Ra. Your opinion is an eloquent one although somewhat confused in its connections between the freedom expressed by subjective knowing and the freedom expressed by subjective acceptance. There is a significant distinction between the two.

This is not a dimension of knowing, even subjectively, due to the lack of overview of cosmic and other inpourings which affect each and every situation which produces catalyst. The subjective acceptance of that which is at the moment and the finding of love within that moment is the greater freedom.

That known as the subjective knowing without proof is, in some degree, a poor friend for there will be anomalies no matter how much information is garnered due to the distortions which form third density.

Ra repeats, with precise clarity, that the entire point of this density is the moment contains love (acceptance).

All of our wanting to understand and become wise pales in comparison to the task of allowing what is and offering our open heart to all other selves. People, plants, insects, rocks - all of it. As it's all the Creator. It's all you :¬)

[Bluebell]

one doesn't actually need a strong red to BE balanced so no wanting to escape doesn't necessarily mean that. all u need is to keep all rays at the same level. imo David is a tad ungrounded because of orthorexia/slight anorexia even. but he's balancing past over indulgence with that so it's all good.

just because someone gets homesick doesn't mean they're unbalanced and David will probably fly home soon after harvest because imo he's totally harvestable. he's gotten sidetracked is all.

[Bluebell]

Some of those who wish to escape have more balancing to do than those who do not.

fixed.

[Namaste]

I would agree, his heart is in the right place and I think he's being of incredible service. Much of his content goes out for free, no one forces anyone to go to conferences etc. The 'fame' is giving him some catalyst/balancing, but that's all part of it.

$10 for GaiamTV is an absolute bargain imho, his Wisdom Teachings and Disclosure shows have a ridiculous amount of content.