Law of One or Satan's Harvest?

[Dante776]

Well first off, you seem to be referring to all of this in reference to New Age and E/T styled channelers, but the concept of angels and demons is much older than all that.

The composition of angels is the same whether in ancient times or now. Remember, they're interdimensional so the same being(s) interacting with you or I in 2017 can traverse the time spectrum and interact with someone in Egypt 4,500 BC, Babylonia 2,000 BC or Greece 1,500 AD.

Second, I can buy what you are saying about a particular group or entity, but what you seem to imply is this is ALL there is, and I just don't think that is the case. For example, what about other deities such as in other pantheons and religions? What about all the forms of spirituality which have nothing to do with extra-terrestrials?

Who said they had nothing to do with extraterrestrials? On the contrary. From what I understand humanity was seeded by the Sirians. Somewhere along the way their experiment was hijacked by fallen angelics, led by the Anunnaki. ANU, ENKI and ENLIL symbolically represent a triad of gods analogous of the Universal Mind Matrix as it has manifested in various cultures and religions over millenia.

For example, the sacred Hindu triad formed by Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva is identical to Sumerian Anunnaki triad ANU, ENKI and ENLIL. Wes Penre does a great job in tracing many ancient gods to the Anunnaki triad. The Anunnaki story forms the basis of the biblical "fall of man" which led to the Luciferian rebellion and the so called "war in heaven". Their Nephalim hybrids would go on to become the ruling elite and the Illuminati. I personally believe that the Illuminati along with the Orion group and other fallen angelics are behind many spiritual attacks.

Third, I know I've already said it, but I'm not really concerned with blame either way, I just want to alleviate suffering whenever possible. However I do get the sense that this has been a particular point of grievance for you since it is one you continue to respond strongly to. I assure you my advice is not intended as any sort of blame game but is only according to my understanding of how to work upon such foreign installations. I have seen and experienced fantastical things, the universe is a strange place. Do not mistake my belief that you might be able to do something about it for blaming you for your condition. I know you were just illustrating a point, but to be clear.

Oh no, I got that really. I was just saying what exactly can you do when you've done just about everything you can do. Maybe this is something Source beings wanted me to go through. I notice that the more I push back, increase my knowledge, and post and share this information that the darker energies slowly begin to recede and lighter energies and frequencies are slowly beginning to emerge (they still have limited control of my body, however).  

Like I said before, I believe there is a group of imposters, a gestalt intelligence as you call it, that mimics and steals the identities of other entities for its own use. I can tell you it is very frustrating to be so highly misrepresented. Note, I'm not saying "positive" and "negative" or "good and evil", my description here of imposters is that of deception. Consider that in light of what you have said.

I'm in agreement with you about our reality being hijacked by certain entities. But the point I'm making is that higher dimensional beings such as Sirians, Archangels, Ascended Masters, and even the Ra Confederacy have allowed this to happen. All for the purpose of steering us along a desired path, to solidify external systems of power and control. Duality also allows us the opportunity to appreciate light when we are in darkness. This system of duality is just a game to them but to us it's very real.

Anyways, I guess you're just f***** then, eh? I can understand how you'd be exasperated.

I could always take a whack at it and see if I can do anything for your situation, but I'm not sure there'd be any point without some confidence in the attempt.

How does that work if I may ask? Also, I'm just curious, how would you know if this isn't something being directed from the higher self or oversoul level? Have you ever run into that before?

As an example, your quote from 'Michael' there. Maybe it's an entity using the name of Michael and masquerading as such in order to lead the individuals in to a false sense of security with such absolute messages? Just because an entity gives a name, doesn't mean it is the entity you think or expect it to be. Even 'Ra' says if you want to have power over an entity you use its name.

That's true, but the same can be said about the people that gave us ALL of our scriptures. After all, they were just channeling certain beings in the same manner as Carla Rueckert. Which means you can say the same thing about Ra. Anyway, let's say you're right and it's not the gestalt entity known as Archangel Michael, that still shouldn't negate the "real" Michael and all other higher celestial beings from intervening, especially when you do everything you can to call on them. Wouldn't you agree?  

[Aion]

Well first off, you seem to be referring to all of this in reference to New Age and E/T styled channelers, but the concept of angels and demons is much older than all that.

The composition of angels is the same whether in ancient times or now. Remember, they're interdimensional so the same being(s) interacting with you or I in 2017 can traverse the time spectrum and interact with someone in Egypt 4,500 BC, Babylonia 2,000 BC or Greece 1,500 AD.

Second, I can buy what you are saying about a particular group or entity, but what you seem to imply is this is ALL there is, and I just don't think that is the case. For example, what about other deities such as in other pantheons and religions? What about all the forms of spirituality which have nothing to do with extra-terrestrials?

Who said they had nothing to do with extraterrestrials? On the contrary. From what I understand humanity was seeded by the Sirians. Somewhere along the way their experiment was hijacked by fallen angelics, led by the Anunnaki. ANU, ENKI and ENLIL symbolically represent a triad of gods analogous of the Universal Mind Matrix as it has manifested in various cultures and religions over millenia.

For example, the sacred Hindu triad formed by Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva is identical to Sumerian Anunnaki triad ANU, ENKI and ENLIL. Wes Penre does a great job in tracing many ancient gods to the Anunnaki triad. The Anunnaki story forms the basis of the biblical "fall of man" which led to the Luciferian rebellion and the so called "war in heaven". Their Nephalim hybrids would go on to become the ruling elite and the Illuminati. I personally believe that the Illuminati along with the Orion group and other fallen angelics are behind many spiritual attacks.

Third, I know I've already said it, but I'm not really concerned with blame either way, I just want to alleviate suffering whenever possible. However I do get the sense that this has been a particular point of grievance for you since it is one you continue to respond strongly to. I assure you my advice is not intended as any sort of blame game but is only according to my understanding of how to work upon such foreign installations. I have seen and experienced fantastical things, the universe is a strange place. Do not mistake my belief that you might be able to do something about it for blaming you for your condition. I know you were just illustrating a point, but to be clear.

Oh no, I got that really. I was just saying what exactly can you do when you've done just about everything you can do. Maybe this is something Source beings wanted me to go through. I notice that the more I push back, increase my knowledge, and post and share this information that the darker energies slowly begin to recede and lighter energies and frequencies are slowly beginning to emerge (they still have limited control of my body, however).  

Like I said before, I believe there is a group of imposters, a gestalt intelligence as you call it, that mimics and steals the identities of other entities for its own use. I can tell you it is very frustrating to be so highly misrepresented. Note, I'm not saying "positive" and "negative" or "good and evil", my description here of imposters is that of deception. Consider that in light of what you have said.

I'm in agreement with you about our reality being hijacked by certain entities. But the point I'm making is that higher dimensional beings such as Sirians, Archangels, Ascended Masters, and even the Ra Confederacy have allowed this to happen. All for the purpose of steering us along a desired path, to solidify external systems of power and control. Duality also allows us the opportunity of appreciate light because we are in darkness. This system of duality is just a game to them but to us it's very real.

Anyways, I guess you're just f***** then, eh? I can understand how you'd be exasperated.

I could always take a whack at it and see if I can do anything for your situation, but I'm not sure there'd be any point without some confidence in the attempt.

How does that work if I may ask? Also, I'm just curious, how would you know if this isn't something being directed from the higher self or oversoul level? Have you ever run into that before?

As an example, your quote from 'Michael' there. Maybe it's an entity using the name of Michael and masquerading as such in order to lead the individuals in to a false sense of security with such absolute messages? Just because an entity gives a name, doesn't mean it is the entity you think or expect it to be. Even 'Ra' says if you want to have power over an entity you use its name.

That's true, but the same can be said about the people that gave us ALL of our scriptures. After all they were just channeling certain beings in the same manner as Carla Rueckert. Which means you can say the same thing about the Ra. Anyway, let's say you're right and it's not the gestalt entity known as Archangel Michael, that still shouldn't negate the "real" Michael and all other higher celestial beings from intervening, especially when you do everything you can to call on them. Wouldn't you agree?  

Honestly I think the point where I disagree is the notion of the power dynamic between dark and light in this regard. That is to say, I actually don't think the 'higher beings' are actually as able to reign in the free will of other entities as you seem to suggest. I think that this particular point of 'comforting' has been used by those attempting to control as a ruse to lull people in to a false sense of security. I believe that Light always illuminates darkness but I think the technicalities of that are a little more complex than just a raw notion of 'power'. Notice how those channelings always measure it in terms of 'power'.

I'm going to throw a maybe crazy sounding idea out there, but what if those positive beings aren't still 'up there'? I have a belief that in an attempt to quell the spreading darkness certain entities chose to start incarnating which otherwise would not have. Maybe you have been heard, but you're not looking in the right place for the response?

You have found your way to me, afterall, and that is never a coincidence. My life is synchronistic, not coincidential.

As for how that works, there is power in formulating a consensus reality even if just among two individuals, through this mechanism you have a much better chance of countering their reality controls. Thus, with no trust, there is no working together and thus no benefit likely to be gained. Through the combination perhaps something more could be done. Perhaps the whole experience has been something 'arranged' for you to learn something, that's not an unknown notion to me. However, that is not the sense that I get off of you. Rather it seems to me there is some significance in the fact that you have found your way here and seem to be trying to 'break free' from that reality.

I can only offer my intuitive notion that it seems that whatever is there over you doesn't 'need' to be there. I have a pretty developed intuition and I have met people where they were having issues and I was unable to do any work because of the response of their higher self. I just don't get that response from your field.

[smc]

I think Sprout's point was you live by a fear based version of your own spirituality belief system,  and here we don't really subscribe to fear based philosophies since we feel like we should know better by now than to indulge the sensations of fear to control our behavior.

Even if the Ra Material provides more than enough fearful information...

Sorry that you take it that way man. But I'm not trying to frighten anyone. I'm just stating the facts about what has happened or is happening to me and looking at it from the perspective of the Ra material. Now, if you interpret that as fear based. That's unfortunate, because that is far from what I'm doing.

I see it as having an intellectual discussion about some very deep experiences just as many others on this forum have shared about their own experiences and I don't see it as fear based peddling. You've already made it clear that you don't believe that demon possession is real and that it's all in the mind so I can see why you feel this way.

We have talked to you, you have basically called us all ignorant. I don't think there's anything more to discuss.

Your words, not mine. Again, sorry you feel that way. Not my intentions.

-clears throat-
Forgive me for what I'm about to do.  Moderators, forgive me.  I'm turning off Sweet and turning on Sour.

I believe 'ignorant' is your word.  Such as said to SMC and Aion.  I could quote you and highlight every post in this thread by you nullifying discussions with you paraphrased as "You don't understand what I'm saying."

What's up with your attitude?  I'm supposed to be the irrational hypocrite around here, mister!

You know what I think?  I think you don't want to hear what we have to say because deep down inside you know you've lost your grip on reality.  I think you're in so far over your head in your mind that you can only rationalize it with spirituality phenomena without any substantial shred of evidence beyond 'evil demon God control me make me do bad things' but I think that's your rationalization.

I think YOU don't know what you're talking about anymore than anyone else and YOU just want our confirmation of your biases to rationalize them further.

What's next?  Your bed spontaneously combusts?  Your head turns 720 degrees?  You're possessed?  A possessed person has a modicum of desperation which includes accepting things they normally don't accept.  You have denied EVERYTHING except when people speak of your issues as being anything but true, and even then you deny their aid and help.

I think you know precisely what you're doing and no 'you're talking about yourself' mirror syndrome excuse will suffice at this point.  I've been kind, I've been open, you've taken and not given anything except your spit and spite of total irrational denial.

You're lazy, you're not STO, you're illogical, irrational, and fishing for attention, and I'd precisely know how to spot it because I see myself in you.

Well HELLO ME, HERE'S THE TRUTH

You belong in a mental institution for [obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help] of PURELY a psychological nature because NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR SPIRIT, but your mind.

Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions, and utmost mania in belief of God's and Goblins using pseudoscientific hogwash labels to make a narrative of unreal realities overlapping your actual reality.

That you are sick in the mind from trauma, and you've fled into pure maniacal fantasy and rewritten your own history in your mind to compensate.

I feel no entities from you, I've damned and dared demons to no retaliation.  You speak of things you know nothing about except that you read them somewhere.  Whether or not it's true is moot, I don't believe your's is a legitimate case otherwise you wouldn't play it out so casually and commonly like 'oh just another part of my life, SOMEBODY HELP ME!'

You are lonely, crying wolf, and the only way it's ever going to get better is if you stop running away from life into fantasies of why you can't handle it, and accept that EVERYTHING YOU BLAME ON YOUR POSSESSION IS ACTUALLY YOUR OWN DOING.

Until you aren't scared to be real, you'll always have some kind of 'problem'.  I'd know as a perfect example.  So whatever your issue is, and I know this post is just to feed you energy because deep down YOU'RE the possessor taking from everyone around you and giving back spite, I hope you as a soul see through your patterns and lessons that you've now ensnared yourself into and come to live a full happy incarnation free of your present narration of LIES and self deceit.

No, for real, you don't need a exorcism, you need God.  You're the demon, you're not the victim the way you promote yourself to be.

And if you are, do, something, about it, go live life, get diagnosed schizophrenic, be nice to everyone when you're not being a monster, live on disability, take a walk, freak out at monsters that are you just unable to accept being a part of yourself.

And stop calling yourself possessed.  The only thing possessed here is everyone buying into your fanciful story of monsters.

God save you from yourself.  Amen, and peace.  I'm being mean because you deserve some blunt honesty if you're going to be a snide jerk.  Sorry too but I do believe you've disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs, even calling yourself possessed.

I've said my piece and given my energy.  Show us how STO you are towards me right now, otherwise, good day sir.  I hope it's bright and sunny with God's love because all the darkness in the world can't block that out.

I don't agree with all of C_A's words but have highlighted the ones I do resonate with. Even the parts that I don't; I see as valid expression and response to a person who is being very difficult to interact with - yet insists it is we that are the problem.

This is why I said I sense a 'vampiric' function to Dante776's posting - the arrogance and snideness doesn't sit with a disempowered supposedly desperate victim.
I also don't sense any current external entities causing the condition - but that the 'demon' is self created/self perpetuated (though perhaps from an original infringement) - I won't go further to view/fact-find - unsafe/tiring/waste of time anyway - I do sense that negatives are nearby 'in attendance'... I sense a thought-form is the supposed 'hand on the neck' - this is a fear creation - created by Dante776 (imo).

I understand frustration could make the OP be rude or exasperated - but there is so much aggression and disdain - verging on malice in his replies that I feel it was either the personality precursor to the phenomena; or personality development since original infringement; or that the OP is actually being used by entities (neg) to attempt to bring fear and disharmony to this forum.  I have considered that we may even be interacting with a negative - (and the overall tone does nothing to remove that possibility) - but I won't energetically interact (to determine that) as it's not my 'area of interest/exploration'.

To sow the seeds of doubt/fear and in particular belabour the repeated theme that 'NOTHING WORKS'... is (effectively) a direct "greeting".

Yes, this forum is equal to meeting the "greeting" with Love/Light.

There is one energy. It may be understood as love/light or light/love or intelligent energy. - Ra

I did not need to be harsh - (and took Aion's advice to heart) - but I've always (unrealistically) wanted B4th to be a sanctuary - as I live with a lot of challenging offline stuff - I get full-on here bcoz IRL I don't allow negative behaviour to be around me.
Self care - Self respect - Self preservation.

So I know I can be a 'firebrand' - direct - intense - but I'll remind members I made several comments clearly offering respect to the OP - so in light of that, the continual rude, dismissive replies are even more unfair - especially for example -the sexism of making sure to identify me by gender and age "Lady give me a break" compared to the less dismissive/aggressive responses to any male (replies) who (also) haven't agreed with him.
Give you 'a break'? I'm giving time to care enough to expend energy to try to help you! 

So, given this basic rudeness/character flaw - why/how should we accept his insistence he's believable - right minded? Stable enough to ascertain that he's possessed ?

I also 'smell a rat' that there's no openness to our ideas/advice/feedback - yet complete faith in many other ideas - experts etc.

All the fantasy artwork etc. new-age ideologies and links; yet no thorough sharing of his history as to who he is/how this all unfolded 14 years ago - and instead deflecting, or saying he already answered that - when asked yet again to answer that (!) is also suspiciously evasive - and as I said (right before I was so rudely replied to) - if you review all his posts - their content/intent and closed minded views since arrival to this forum - how else should/could I assess his objective as anything but as he, himself, has stated - to discuss/warn of "the perils and pitfalls"?

To be so arrogantly replied to when I point out this FACT (of the content of all his posts) to him - and instead, deny the ACTUAL WORDS he wrote (that can still be seen!) - is plain dodgy.

More I could say - but sun is shining - going outside to relax now.

[Dante776]

I think Sprout's point was you live by a fear based version of your own spirituality belief system,  and here we don't really subscribe to fear based philosophies since we feel like we should know better by now than to indulge the sensations of fear to control our behavior.

Even if the Ra Material provides more than enough fearful information...

Sorry that you take it that way man. But I'm not trying to frighten anyone. I'm just stating the facts about what has happened or is happening to me and looking at it from the perspective of the Ra material. Now, if you interpret that as fear based. That's unfortunate, because that is far from what I'm doing.

I see it as having an intellectual discussion about some very deep experiences just as many others on this forum have shared about their own experiences and I don't see it as fear based peddling. You've already made it clear that you don't believe that demon possession is real and that it's all in the mind so I can see why you feel this way.

We have talked to you, you have basically called us all ignorant. I don't think there's anything more to discuss.

Your words, not mine. Again, sorry you feel that way. Not my intentions.

-clears throat-
Forgive me for what I'm about to do.  Moderators, forgive me.  I'm turning off Sweet and turning on Sour.

I believe 'ignorant' is your word.  Such as said to SMC and Aion.  I could quote you and highlight every post in this thread by you nullifying discussions with you paraphrased as "You don't understand what I'm saying."

What's up with your attitude?  I'm supposed to be the irrational hypocrite around here, mister!

You know what I think?  I think you don't want to hear what we have to say because deep down inside you know you've lost your grip on reality.  I think you're in so far over your head in your mind that you can only rationalize it with spirituality phenomena without any substantial shred of evidence beyond 'evil demon God control me make me do bad things' but I think that's your rationalization.

I think YOU don't know what you're talking about anymore than anyone else and YOU just want our confirmation of your biases to rationalize them further.

What's next?  Your bed spontaneously combusts?  Your head turns 720 degrees?  You're possessed?  A possessed person has a modicum of desperation which includes accepting things they normally don't accept.  You have denied EVERYTHING except when people speak of your issues as being anything but true, and even then you deny their aid and help.

I think you know precisely what you're doing and no 'you're talking about yourself' mirror syndrome excuse will suffice at this point.  I've been kind, I've been open, you've taken and not given anything except your spit and spite of total irrational denial.

You're lazy, you're not STO, you're illogical, irrational, and fishing for attention, and I'd precisely know how to spot it because I see myself in you.

Well HELLO ME, HERE'S THE TRUTH

You belong in a mental institution for obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help of PURELY a psychological nature because NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR SPIRIT, but your mind.

Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions, and utmost mania in belief of God's and Goblins using pseudoscientific hogwash labels to make a narrative of unreal realities overlapping your actual reality.

That you are sick in the mind from trauma, and you've fled into pure maniacal fantasy and rewritten your own history in your mind to compensate.

I feel no entities from you, I've damned and dared demons to no retaliation.  You speak of things you know nothing about except that you read them somewhere.  Whether or not it's true is moot, I don't believe your's is a legitimate case otherwise you wouldn't play it out so casually and commonly like 'oh just another part of my life, SOMEBODY HELP ME!'

You are lonely, crying wolf, and the only way it's ever going to get better is if you stop running away from life into fantasies of why you can't handle it, and accept that EVERYTHING YOU BLAME ON YOUR POSSESSION IS ACTUALLY YOUR OWN DOING.

Until you aren't scared to be real, you'll always have some kind of 'problem'.  I'd know as a perfect example.  So whatever your issue is, and I know this post is just to feed you energy because deep down YOU'RE the possessor taking from everyone around you and giving back spite, I hope you as a soul see through your patterns and lessons that you've now ensnared yourself into and come to live a full happy incarnation free of your present narration of LIES and self deceit.

No, for real, you don't need a exorcism, you need God.  You're the demon, you're not the victim the way you promote yourself to be.

And if you are, do, something, about it, go live life, get diagnosed schizophrenic, be nice to everyone when you're not being a monster, live on disability, take a walk, freak out at monsters that are you just unable to accept being a part of yourself.

And stop calling yourself possessed.  The only thing possessed here is everyone buying into your fanciful story of monsters.

God save you from yourself.  Amen, and peace.  I'm being mean because you deserve some blunt honesty if you're going to be a snide jerk.  Sorry too but I do believe you've disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs, even calling yourself possessed.

I've said my piece and given my energy.  Show us how STO you are towards me right now, otherwise, good day sir.  I hope it's bright and sunny with God's love because all the darkness in the world can't block that out.

Hey brother, I don't know where all of this is coming from but you seem to be a man that is seriously disturbed. Maybe you've had one too many drinks or maybe you're having personal challenges of your own that you're not sharing on Bring4th. It sounds like you are far more under the control of monsters more than anything I've shared here. And the dangerous thing with you is that YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT! Perhaps YOU should take your own advice and seek some therapeutic help because I can't see where I've said anything to you that warrants this kind of response. Anyway, I'm going to further address your statement in addition to SMC's under her last post. Take care of yourself man!

[Dante776]

Sorry that you take it that way man. But I'm not trying to frighten anyone. I'm just stating the facts about what has happened or is happening to me and looking at it from the perspective of the Ra material. Now, if you interpret that as fear based. That's unfortunate, because that is far from what I'm doing.

I see it as having an intellectual discussion about some very deep experiences just as many others on this forum have shared about their own experiences and I don't see it as fear based peddling. You've already made it clear that you don't believe that demon possession is real and that it's all in the mind so I can see why you feel this way.

We have talked to you, you have basically called us all ignorant. I don't think there's anything more to discuss.

Your words, not mine. Again, sorry you feel that way. Not my intentions.

-clears throat-
Forgive me for what I'm about to do.  Moderators, forgive me.  I'm turning off Sweet and turning on Sour.

I believe 'ignorant' is your word.  Such as said to SMC and Aion.  I could quote you and highlight every post in this thread by you nullifying discussions with you paraphrased as "You don't understand what I'm saying."

What's up with your attitude?  I'm supposed to be the irrational hypocrite around here, mister!

You know what I think?  I think you don't want to hear what we have to say because deep down inside you know you've lost your grip on reality.  I think you're in so far over your head in your mind that you can only rationalize it with spirituality phenomena without any substantial shred of evidence beyond 'evil demon God control me make me do bad things' but I think that's your rationalization.

I think YOU don't know what you're talking about anymore than anyone else and YOU just want our confirmation of your biases to rationalize them further.

What's next?  Your bed spontaneously combusts?  Your head turns 720 degrees?  You're possessed?  A possessed person has a modicum of desperation which includes accepting things they normally don't accept.  You have denied EVERYTHING except when people speak of your issues as being anything but true, and even then you deny their aid and help.

I think you know precisely what you're doing and no 'you're talking about yourself' mirror syndrome excuse will suffice at this point.  I've been kind, I've been open, you've taken and not given anything except your spit and spite of total irrational denial.

You're lazy, you're not STO, you're illogical, irrational, and fishing for attention, and I'd precisely know how to spot it because I see myself in you.

Well HELLO ME, HERE'S THE TRUTH

You belong in a mental institution for [obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help] of PURELY a psychological nature because NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR SPIRIT, but your mind.

Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions, and utmost mania in belief of God's and Goblins using pseudoscientific hogwash labels to make a narrative of unreal realities overlapping your actual reality.

That you are sick in the mind from trauma, and you've fled into pure maniacal fantasy and rewritten your own history in your mind to compensate.

I feel no entities from you, I've damned and dared demons to no retaliation.  You speak of things you know nothing about except that you read them somewhere.  Whether or not it's true is moot, I don't believe your's is a legitimate case otherwise you wouldn't play it out so casually and commonly like 'oh just another part of my life, SOMEBODY HELP ME!'

You are lonely, crying wolf, and the only way it's ever going to get better is if you stop running away from life into fantasies of why you can't handle it, and accept that EVERYTHING YOU BLAME ON YOUR POSSESSION IS ACTUALLY YOUR OWN DOING.

Until you aren't scared to be real, you'll always have some kind of 'problem'.  I'd know as a perfect example.  So whatever your issue is, and I know this post is just to feed you energy because deep down YOU'RE the possessor taking from everyone around you and giving back spite, I hope you as a soul see through your patterns and lessons that you've now ensnared yourself into and come to live a full happy incarnation free of your present narration of LIES and self deceit.

No, for real, you don't need a exorcism, you need God.  You're the demon, you're not the victim the way you promote yourself to be.

And if you are, do, something, about it, go live life, get diagnosed schizophrenic, be nice to everyone when you're not being a monster, live on disability, take a walk, freak out at monsters that are you just unable to accept being a part of yourself.

And stop calling yourself possessed.  The only thing possessed here is everyone buying into your fanciful story of monsters.

God save you from yourself.  Amen, and peace.  I'm being mean because you deserve some blunt honesty if you're going to be a snide jerk.  Sorry too but I do believe you've disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs, even calling yourself possessed.

I've said my piece and given my energy.  Show us how STO you are towards me right now, otherwise, good day sir.  I hope it's bright and sunny with God's love because all the darkness in the world can't block that out.

I don't agree with all of C_A's words but have highlighted the ones I do resonate with. Even the parts that I don't; I see as valid expression and response to a person who is being very difficult to interact with - yet insists it is we that are the problem.

This is why I said I sense a 'vampiric' function to Dante776's posting - the arrogance and snideness doesn't sit with a disempowered supposedly desperate victim.
I also don't sense any current external entities causing the condition - but that the 'demon' is self created/self perpetuated (though perhaps from an original infringement) - I won't go further to view/fact-find - unsafe/tiring/waste of time anyway - I do sense that negatives are nearby 'in attendance'... I sense a thought-form is the supposed 'hand on the neck' - this is a fear creation - created by Dante776 (imo).

I understand frustration could make the OP be rude or exasperated - but there is so much aggression and disdain - verging on malice in his replies that I feel it was either the personality precursor to the phenomena; or personality development since original infringement; or that the OP is actually being used by entities (neg) to attempt to bring fear and disharmony to this forum.  I have considered that we may even be interacting with a negative - (and the overall tone does nothing to remove that possibility) - but I won't energetically interact (to determine that) as it's not my 'area of interest/exploration'.

To sow the seeds of doubt/fear and in particular belabour the repeated theme that 'NOTHING WORKS'... is (effectively) a direct "greeting".

Yes, this forum is equal to meeting the "greeting" with Love/Light.

There is one energy. It may be understood as love/light or light/love or intelligent energy. - Ra

I did not need to be harsh - (and took Aion's advice to heart) - but I've always (unrealistically) wanted B4th to be a sanctuary - as I live with a lot of challenging offline stuff - I get full-on here bcoz IRL I don't allow negative behaviour to be around me.
Self care - Self respect - Self preservation.

So I know I can be a 'firebrand' - direct - intense - but I'll remind members I made several comments clearly offering respect to the OP - so in light of that, the continual rude, dismissive replies are even more unfair - especially for example -the sexism of making sure to identify me by gender and age "Lady give me a break" compared to the less dismissive/aggressive responses to any male (replies) who (also) haven't agreed with him.
Give you 'a break'? I'm giving time to care enough to expend energy to try to help you! 

So, given this basic rudeness/character flaw - why/how should we accept his insistence he's believable - right minded? Stable enough to ascertain that he's possessed ?

I also 'smell a rat' that there's no openness to our ideas/advice/feedback - yet complete faith in many other ideas - experts etc.

All the fantasy artwork etc. new-age ideologies and links; yet no thorough sharing of his history as to who he is/how this all unfolded 14 years ago - and instead deflecting, or saying he already answered that - when asked yet again to answer that (!) is also suspiciously evasive - and as I said (right before I was so rudely replied to) - if you review all his posts - their content/intent and closed minded views since arrival to this forum - how else should/could I assess his objective as anything but as he, himself, has stated - to discuss/warn of "the perils and pitfalls"?

To be so arrogantly replied to when I point out this FACT (of the content of all his posts) to him - and instead, deny the ACTUAL WORDS he wrote (that can still be seen!) - is plain dodgy.

More I could say - but sun is shining - going outside to relax now.

It's clear and obvious that YOU and Coordinate_Apotheosis are trying to goad me into a fight. And that's not what I'm on here for. I think both of you have [obsession and trauma, you need counseling and professional help] issues that are beyond the scope of this forum.

I think both of you are Paranoid, hostile, reclusive, manipulative, dishonest, obsessed, and intently overzealous with narcissistic tendencies of knowledge, megalomania, delusions.

I believe that you two have disillusioned yourself into a whole new delusion of madness that you're so obsessed with as being true has entrapped you from something even worse that you've chosen to avoid at all costs. These are all your [adopted] words.

Why are YOU the only one that Coordinate_Apotheosis comment's resonate with, SMC? Because both of you obviously share the same psychopathy. You are both like pouting little children ready to snatch up all the marbles and throw a hissy fit when the game isn't going your way. Because I don't buy into your 'Psychological' narrative. Listen, I will not be upset with you if you choose not to participate in this conversation! Honestly!! To continue to do so suggests to me that your just looking for conflict and are deriving some kind of enjoyment out of this. Do me a favor and take this madness somewhere else because like I told you before, I AM NOT YOUR ENEMY!

Where in any of my posts have I used the kind of incendiary, inflammatory and disparaging language toward you or anyone as you two have used against me? Where in any of my posts have I called anyone 'ignorant?' You're the one who tried to place me in your tight little box and label me as paranoid schizophrenic until you saw differently and changed your position. Coordinate_Apotheosis is the one who's trying to tell me that demon possession is just in the mind and that I should treat this as psychological issue Only. And is "Lady give me a break" the worst thing you can find that I said? Come on lady, give me a break, II.

Coordinate_Apotheosis sounds to me like an Illuminati handler that's embedded within certain groups to debunk and discourage people who attempt to come forward with these claims. He may perfectly well know what's going on but his job may be to debunk it so that others aren't tipped off by these revelations. I could be wrong but I've noticed how others on this particular thread have mentioned that they have had demonic encounters but he said nothing about them at all. However, he's quick to pick my particular case apart because he probably know's that there is something far more sinister here that he doesn't want the public to know about. Something that the Illuminati and their minions are doing to certain 'targeted individuals.' And the fact that he would go off on me the way that he has, when he know's nothing about me other than what I've shared in these posts is highly suspicious to me. Again, I could be wrong. Maybe he's just a natural skeptic and enjoys debunking such claims. Maybe he sees what he's doing as a noble calling somehow. I mean, the very name Coordinate_Apotheosis suggests that he is someone elevated to 'divine status' and 'coordinates' a set of values that show an exact position. HIS POSITION! Which we are supposed to accept as though it is the word of GOD HIMSELF!

You on the other hand may just be a case of misery loving company. Now, I'm not saying this to be mean. And I will refrain from using incendiary psychological terms like you and your friend Apotheosis (The GOD Man) like to do. So, why does misery love company and why might this apply to you? Perhaps it's jealousy. Perhaps it's envy. Perhaps it's resentment. Or a combination of all three, however, which factors are weighted more heavily than the others depends on the individual in question. After all, aren't you the one that said "I'm now estranged from my whole family! - sister mother father... no job for the last 25 years because of a violent workplace assault that took 10 years to be dealt with in a court case... it's 36 years since I had a complete nervous breakdown at 19... from all the abuse I'd already gone through at that point - and it only got worse and worse..." I actually sympathize with you SMC and wish you all the best. I see nowhere that it profits you or I to get into a battle of my pain is 'Greater' and more 'Valid' than your pain.

I think think the problem with both of you guys may just be that you are uninformed regarding this particular issue. That doesn't mean you're ignorant or stupid. I'm not saying that so don't twist my words. You're simply skeptical, that's all. And, it comes off as sounding rudely cynical, and down right insulting! I just think that you haven't been exposed to or have read much about people that have had similar experiences. The very nature of the 'skeptic' is that since nothing can be known for certain the only rational thing to do is to suspend judgment on everything. That may have been more the case in ancient times, but modern skeptics like Hume and others think that belief in X ought to be proportional to the amount of evidence supporting X. And as I said in previous post, there are enough examples out there to support my claims if you just do the research. If you're looking for some kind of 'physical' evidence from me, that's impossible to do over the Internet. I can only give you my testimony. And, even if you did meet me and witnessed physical signs of 'demonic' manifestation, you still probably wouldn't believe it without knowledge or reference to other credible experiencers. You would simply say that it's psychological or a physical illness.  

So, allow me to share just a few other cases, to shed further light on this phenomenon, of others who have experienced it. Keep in mind that not all possessions are the same and not everyone handles it the same. Just because I'm not foaming at the mouth, suicidal, and sounding desperately crazed and instead, come off sounding clear minded and able to express some intelligence about this condition doesn't mean that I'm not experiencing it. That may be how YOU TWO would handle it. But others who are perhaps STRONGER than you might handle it differently. You have no idea of what I have been through 'over the years' with this. And to lay it all out would require me to write a book, which I can't do on this forum.
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[Dante776]

Do We Really Understand Demon Possession?

The following excerpt is from article entitled "Meditation – The Possibility of Spirit Possession" by Dr. John Weldon.

Because of modern reluctance to deal forthrightly and responsibly with the category of the demonic, meditation is one of the common methods available for becoming possessed by spirits who are really demons. Endless numbers of gurus, psychics, mediums, other occultists, and even scholarly authorities testify to this. For example, Dr. Weldon’s Ph.D. dissertation researched over 30 different Hindu and Buddhist gurus, and every one had been spirit-influenced or possessed, apparently during their meditative practices.

Furthermore, the spirits themselves endorse New Age meditation. The books the spirits dictate through their human mediums enthusiastically recommend meditative practices as a means to contact them. For example, Ruth Montgomery, a former hard-nosed, skeptical news­paper reporter who eventually became a medium, has single-handedly interested millions of people in the spirit world through more than a dozen books inspired or dictated by her spirit guides.

Sai Baba (1926-2011) was one of the most popular of contemporary Indian spiritual teachers (gurus). When Sai Baba was either 13 or 14 years of age, for two months his family thought he became possessed by a demon and tried to get it exorcised from him!

On September 5, 2001, on the fourth anniversary of her death, the Archbishop of Calcutta, Henry D'Souza, revealed that Mother Teresa had an exorcism performed on her while she was hospitalized in 1997. Because the Roman Catholic Church performs exorcisms only when someone is believed to be possessed by the devil, the world was shocked by such a disclosure.

"When the person is being attacked by the devil and there is some evidence of that, it's further indication that the person has a very special holiness and therefore, a very special object of attack by Satan," he said. "So it will not hurt her process at all." As to the exorcism, D'Souza says it indicates Mother Teresa was a supremely holy figure, even in the devil's eyes.

Jim Morrison, the frontman of America’s most successful band in the 60’s, admitted that he had to drink “to silence the constant voices of the demons” (James Riordin, “Break on Through: The Life and Death of Jim Morrison,” p. 23). The Door’s photographer, Frank Lisciandro, stated that,“Jim drank to quiet the ceaseless clamor of the demons, ghosts and spirits. He drank because there were demons and voices and spirits shouting inside of his head and he found that one of the ways to quell them was with alcohol”

“Brian Wilson hears voices. They talk to him. They frighten him, distract him, confuse him…the voices are calling. His eyes roll toward the ceiling; they’ve gone blank. His brow is furrowed with thick worry lines. He is silent. Gone. He looks up, jerks his head back and forth for a few seconds, as if physically shaking away the voices” Former Warner Brother Records President, Larry Waronker, claims to have met at least five different entities possessing Brian Wilson’s body (Rolling Stone, August, 1988, p. 51-52).

Carlos Santana has his own personal demon-god named, “Metatron.” Here is another disturbing excerpt from Rolling Stone magazine...“Metatron is an angel. Santana has been in regular contact with him since 1994. Carlos will sit here facing the wall, the candles lit. He has a yellow legal pad at one side, ready for the communications that will come. 'It's kind of like a fax machine,' he says” (Cover Story: The Epic Life of Carlos Santana: Santana: Rolling Stone (March 16, 2000).

Ozzy Osborne admitted, “I’ve got many, many demons that affect me on many, many levels” (Harry Shaw, “Ozzy Talking,” p. 126). Ozzie further admitted, “I remember sitting through the Exorcist a dozen times, saying to myself, ‘Yeah, I can relate to that” (Hit Parader, Nov. 1984, p. 49).

Jimi Hendrix was demon possessed...literally. He even admitted it to a number of individuals and begged his girlfriend for help (her mother was adept in voodoo exorcism). See the excellent video, They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll for more documentation. One of Jimi's girlfreinds had this to say:

"He used to always talk about some devil, or something that was in him, and he didn't have any control over it. He didn't know what made him act the way he acted and what made him say the things he said and the songs and different things that just came out of him. He'd say "I don't know what has come over me. I can't understand it". You know he used to just grab his hair or something or pull his hair or stand in the mirror or cry or something. Oh lord, it was so sad when he would cry. He was maybe the first man, or maybe the only man that I've ever seen cry, you know but it just killed me when he cried. It seems like to me that he was tormented and just torn apart and like he was obsessed with something really evil. And he said, "You know like you're from Georgia," you know he said, "I should know how, you know, people drive demons out". He  actually thought about, you know, if we ever go, because I used to talk about my grandmother and all her weird stuff, you know, and he used to talk about us going down there and having some root lady or somebody see if she could drive this demon out of him."

Truth is Love. Love is Truth. Truth unites. Lies divide. Embrace Truth. Care for Truth.

[Dante776]

[quote='Aion' pid='234241' dateline='1507795707']
Well first off, you seem to be referring to all of this in reference to New Age and E/T styled channelers, but the concept of angels and demons is much older than all that.

The composition of angels is the same whether in ancient times or now. Remember, they're interdimensional so the same being(s) interacting with you or I in 2017 can traverse the time spectrum and interact with someone in Egypt 4,500 BC, Babylonia 2,000 BC or Greece 1,500 AD.

Second, I can buy what you are saying about a particular group or entity, but what you seem to imply is this is ALL there is, and I just don't think that is the case. For example, what about other deities such as in other pantheons and religions? What about all the forms of spirituality which have nothing to do with extra-terrestrials?

Who said they had nothing to do with extraterrestrials? On the contrary. From what I understand humanity was seeded by the Sirians. Somewhere along the way their experiment was hijacked by fallen angelics, led by the Anunnaki. ANU, ENKI and ENLIL symbolically represent a triad of gods analogous of the Universal Mind Matrix as it has manifested in various cultures and religions over millenia.

For example, the sacred Hindu triad formed by Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva is identical to Sumerian Anunnaki triad ANU, ENKI and ENLIL. Wes Penre does a great job in tracing many ancient gods to the Anunnaki triad. The Anunnaki story forms the basis of the biblical "fall of man" which led to the Luciferian rebellion and the so called "war in heaven". Their Nephalim hybrids would go on to become the ruling elite and the Illuminati. I personally believe that the Illuminati along with the Orion group and other fallen angelics are behind many spiritual attacks.

Third, I know I've already said it, but I'm not really concerned with blame either way, I just want to alleviate suffering whenever possible. However I do get the sense that this has been a particular point of grievance for you since it is one you continue to respond strongly to. I assure you my advice is not intended as any sort of blame game but is only according to my understanding of how to work upon such foreign installations. I have seen and experienced fantastical things, the universe is a strange place. Do not mistake my belief that you might be able to do something about it for blaming you for your condition. I know you were just illustrating a point, but to be clear.

Oh no, I got that really. I was just saying what exactly can you do when you've done just about everything you can do. Maybe this is something Source beings wanted me to go through. I notice that the more I push back, increase my knowledge, and post and share this information that the darker energies slowly begin to recede and lighter energies and frequencies are slowly beginning to emerge (they still have limited control of my body, however).  

Like I said before, I believe there is a group of imposters, a gestalt intelligence as you call it, that mimics and steals the identities of other entities for its own use. I can tell you it is very frustrating to be so highly misrepresented. Note, I'm not saying "positive" and "negative" or "good and evil", my description here of imposters is that of deception. Consider that in light of what you have said.

I'm in agreement with you about our reality being hijacked by certain entities. But the point I'm making is that higher dimensional beings such as Sirians, Archangels, Ascended Masters, and even the Ra Confederacy have allowed this to happen. All for the purpose of steering us along a desired path, to solidify external systems of power and control. Duality also allows us the opportunity of appreciate light because we are in darkness. This system of duality is just a game to them but to us it's very real.

Anyways, I guess you're just f***** then, eh? I can understand how you'd be exasperated.

I could always take a whack at it and see if I can do anything for your situation, but I'm not sure there'd be any point without some confidence in the attempt.

How does that work if I may ask? Also, I'm just curious, how would you know if this isn't something being directed from the higher self or oversoul level? Have you ever run into that before?

As an example, your quote from 'Michael' there. Maybe it's an entity using the name of Michael and masquerading as such in order to lead the individuals in to a false sense of security with such absolute messages? Just because an entity gives a name, doesn't mean it is the entity you think or expect it to be. Even 'Ra' says if you want to have power over an entity you use its name.

That's true, but the same can be said about the people that gave us ALL of our scriptures. After all they were just channeling certain beings in the same manner as Carla Rueckert. Which means you can say the same thing about the Ra. Anyway, let's say you're right and it's not the gestalt entity known as Archangel Michael, that still shouldn't negate the "real" Michael and all other higher celestial beings from intervening, especially when you do everything you can to call on them. Wouldn't you agree?  

Honestly I think the point where I disagree is the notion of the power dynamic between dark and light in this regard. That is to say, I actually don't think the 'higher beings' are actually as able to reign in the free will of other entities as you seem to suggest. I think that this particular point of 'comforting' has been used by those attempting to control as a ruse to lull people in to a false sense of security. I believe that Light always illuminates darkness but I think the technicalities of that are a little more complex than just a raw notion of 'power'. Notice how those channelings always measure it in terms of 'power'.

Haven't we heard thousands of stories going back to ancient days where higher beings have intervened in the affairs of humans? After all, if the 'dark' beings can interfere with us, it seems to me that technically the 'light' beings should be able to do the same thing. Especially if requested.

I'm going to throw a maybe crazy sounding idea out there, but what if those positive beings aren't still 'up there'? I have a belief that in an attempt to quell the spreading darkness certain entities chose to start incarnating which otherwise would not have. Maybe you have been heard, but you're not looking in the right place for the response?

You have found your way to me, afterall, and that is never a coincidence. My life is synchronistic, not coincidential.

I hear you. And I am open to your suggestions.

As for how that works, there is power in formulating a consensus reality even if just among two individuals, through this mechanism you have a much better chance of countering their reality controls. Thus, with no trust, there is no working together and thus no benefit likely to be gained. Through the combination perhaps something more could be done.

I'm open to whatever will yield results.

Perhaps the whole experience has been something 'arranged' for you to learn something, that's not an unknown notion to me. However, that is not the sense that I get off of you. Rather it seems to me there is some significance in the fact that you have found your way here and seem to be trying to 'break free' from that reality.

True!

I can only offer my intuitive notion that it seems that whatever is there over you doesn't 'need' to be there. I have a pretty developed intuition and I have met people where they were having issues and I was unable to do any work because of the response of their higher self. I just don't get that response from your field.

Are you able to identify the source?

[smc]

If you would take some time to reread replies to you on this thread - you will see that I've said I accept the possibility of possession.
To further clarify this to you; let me state - I am sure it can occur.

To goad you into a fight? With all the fuckery and toxic abuse already going on in the offline world?
Noop.

I offered you my best, hard-learnt truths - and was replied to with patronising and escalatingly snide, arrogant responses.
Twice now you've repeated my brave sharing of my personal life story 'back at me' in what feels like a subtle attempt to shame/stigmatise me... this is aggression on your part - when I was caring enough to call up the courage to reach out to show you I know the feeling of severe pain and disempowerment.
To keep 'throwing' that 'back in my face' by quoting it back at me for all on the forum to reread and reread - well - perhaps that's the demon in you (?).
(I'm not convinced when you now say you "sympathize" with me about it - because you don't need to highlight it again - this time in red - word for word. You're using my very personal sharing to say that I have 'psychological problems' - but that you don't.)

You joined this forum alleging Ra is connected to Satanism etc which is a very combative (and erroneous) thing to do - and it's your energy that first increased in disdain and combativeness.

That's had the effect of bringing it out in others.

After all it's YOU that's demon possessed (ostensibly); so to attribute negative behaviour to us - but not reflect on your own conduct - is flawed.
Pointing the finger when people respond to your overall negative 'tone' with angry and/or assertive replies is a double standard.

I don't have time, or interest in a "fight"; (and I don't see you as (my) "enemy").

For what it's worth - I'd retract agreement with some of the adjectives C_A uses to describe you -some are OTT - but I do understand they came from frustration and anger and are an energetic match (ramped up somewhat) to the energy you give off.
Some I still feel are accurate.

There's a small addition/change I'd make (to my last post) which is that you have been open minded to the ideas of Aion, which is hopeful to see. He's really gifted in 'meeting you where you are', and it will be really useful (imo) for the 2 of you to continue to discuss your situation.

Sincere wishes that you find help; and eventual freedom, peace and empowerment.
smc

[Aion]

Ehhh, I'm iffy on your heavy Christian source there. I am not a Christian so I will admit I do not often agree with their descriptions and conclusions. I won't say any more to that matter. Everyone can believe what they wish.

It is true that there have been many cases of positive beings intervening, but you would also notice that a lot of the time the help comes through 'mundane' occurrences which are arranged in synchronicity. There are certain stories of people calling positive entities, however as I'm sure you're aware since you have been reading possession literature that there are cases where this only agitates the situation. The matter is pretty mixed.

The source is that big old demon standing at your back that leers over your shoulder. Your companion is good old Belphegor. He is a demon who 'helps' people 'discover things', sound familiar such as an individual seeking truth? Of course, you can't judge a demon by what is on Wikipedia, but I happen to recognize this particular fellow. He has a certain smell.

With your permission, I can hopefully detach this entity and expel it from your field. He will do everything he can to sow doubt that it is possible. Anything to disable your path, to hinder your faith in the light. No, he will insist you need him in order to be able to find the truth. You couldn't possibly find it on your own, in his point of view.

[Dante776]

Ehhh, I'm iffy on your heavy Christian source there. I am not a Christian so I will admit I do not often agree with their descriptions and conclusions. I won't say any more to that matter. Everyone can believe what they wish.

I hear you on the Christian thing. I, like many people these days, consider myself spiritual. Although the author Dr. John Weldon is Christian, to his credit he has studied world religions at the graduate level and has a Ph.D. in comparative religion and a D.Min. with emphasis in contemporary religious movements. So, despite his personal belief system, his research has some credence.

It is true that there have been many cases of positive beings intervening, but you would also notice that a lot of the time the help comes through 'mundane' occurrences which are arranged in synchronicity. There are certain stories of people calling positive entities, however as I'm sure you're aware since you have been reading possession literature that there are cases where this only agitates the situation. The matter is pretty mixed.

I agree, which is why I've concluded that 'many' of these beings are one and the same. And that they are multidimensional forms of the Cosmic Mind Matrix or 'Logos.' In them, light and darkness is merged into one single force. As Ra says "unpolarized, full and whole, is the macrocosm of the mystery-clad being." Dr. Karla Turner talks about the methods of deception used by these beings in her book 'Masquerade of Angels' (1994).

Also, consider this excerpt from the website 'Tricked By The Light'. It supports your statement earlier about them wanting 'to use people as batteries' as told in The Matrix.

They use the scare tactics of fear and guilt to scare us into the loving arms of the manipulative "god" of light, the false light. The dark prince, Nergal/Satan, who represents evil scares the souls to go to the false Light, which is said to be good, for salvation. Fear and love, hell and heaven, dark and light. Both sides are necessary for the trick of the duality to work. The fear of judgment and punishment of hell and the devil scare people into running to the light and false god figure who offers light, love and heaven. It is the movement back and forth between the polarities that cause the electricity, the food for the archons. Electricity is caused by electrons flowing from a negative pole to a positive one: Electrons are negatively charged, and so are attracted to the positive end of a battery and repelled by the negative end. So when the battery is hooked up to something that lets the electrons flow through it, they flow from negative to positive. They use both sides of the spectrum -- both light and dark -- it's a big game of duality for them, black and white, light and dark, and we are the pawns.

The source is that big old demon standing at your back that leers over your shoulder. Your companion is good old Belphegor. He is a demon who 'helps' people 'discover things', sound familiar such as an individual seeking truth? Of course, you can't judge a demon by what is on Wikipedia, but I happen to recognize this particular fellow. He has a certain smell.

With your permission, I can hopefully detach this entity and expel it from your field. He will do everything he can to sow doubt that it is possible. Anything to disable your path, to hinder your faith in the light. No, he will insist you need him in order to be able to find the truth. You couldn't possibly find it on your own, in his point of view.

Interesting! Belphegor is one of the 7 archdemons of hell who are the evil counterparts of the 7 Archangels of heaven. Belphegor is opposite Raphael, so if you are able to expel Belphegor, Raphael will have a better chance to come through. So, yes by all means!

[Aion]

Ehhh, I'm iffy on your heavy Christian source there. I am not a Christian so I will admit I do not often agree with their descriptions and conclusions. I won't say any more to that matter. Everyone can believe what they wish.

I hear you on the Christian thing. I, like many people these days, consider myself spiritual. Although the author Dr. John Weldon is Christian, to his credit he has studied world religions at the graduate level and has a Ph.D. in comparative religion and a D.Min. with emphasis in contemporary religious movements. So, despite his personal belief system, his research has some credence.

It is true that there have been many cases of positive beings intervening, but you would also notice that a lot of the time the help comes through 'mundane' occurrences which are arranged in synchronicity. There are certain stories of people calling positive entities, however as I'm sure you're aware since you have been reading possession literature that there are cases where this only agitates the situation. The matter is pretty mixed.

I agree, which is why I've concluded that 'many' of these beings are one and the same. And that they are multidimensional forms of the Cosmic Mind Matrix or 'Logos.' In them, light and darkness is merged into one single force. As Ra says "unpolarized, full and whole, is the macrocosm of the mystery-clad being." Dr. Karla Turner talks about the methods of deception used by these beings in her book 'Masquerade of Angels' (1994).

Also, consider this excerpt from the website 'Tricked By The Light'. It supports your statement earlier about them wanting 'to use people as batteries' as told in The Matrix.

They use the scare tactics of fear and guilt to scare us into the loving arms of the manipulative "god" of light, the false light. The dark prince, Nergal/Satan, who represents evil scares the souls to go to the false Light, which is said to be good, for salvation. Fear and love, hell and heaven, dark and light. Both sides are necessary for the trick of the duality to work. The fear of judgment and punishment of hell and the devil scare people into running to the light and false god figure who offers light, love and heaven. It is the movement back and forth between the polarities that cause the electricity, the food for the archons. Electricity is caused by electrons flowing from a negative pole to a positive one: Electrons are negatively charged, and so are attracted to the positive end of a battery and repelled by the negative end. So when the battery is hooked up to something that lets the electrons flow through it, they flow from negative to positive. They use both sides of the spectrum -- both light and dark -- it's a big game of duality for them, black and white, light and dark, and we are the pawns.

The source is that big old demon standing at your back that leers over your shoulder. Your companion is good old Belphegor. He is a demon who 'helps' people 'discover things', sound familiar such as an individual seeking truth? Of course, you can't judge a demon by what is on Wikipedia, but I happen to recognize this particular fellow. He has a certain smell.

With your permission, I can hopefully detach this entity and expel it from your field. He will do everything he can to sow doubt that it is possible. Anything to disable your path, to hinder your faith in the light. No, he will insist you need him in order to be able to find the truth. You couldn't possibly find it on your own, in his point of view.

Interesting! Belphegor is one of the 7 archdemons of hell who are the evil counterparts of the 7 Archangels of heaven. Belphegor is opposite Rapheal, so if you are able to expel Belphegor, Rapheal will have a better chance to come through. So, yes by all means!

Well you would note that Ra does mention Negative entities which have made it to Sixth Density, that of Unity and though there is supposedly a point they have never crossed there does mean there are some of those types of entities which may enjoy the benefits of this level of unity, and as such use it to their advantage. They even mentioned one sixth density negative wanderer who arrived on this planet, but would not say more.

I would point out again that the key is deception. The thing about deception is it uses elements which are already in place and then twists them in order to give them a different appearance. So I would say that this entities utilize the benefit of the principle of duality in a negative way but it is not the only way the principle may be manifested in the universe, get what I mean? The principles are tools which are used to shape realities. This goes back to the qualities of numbers which are at the root of the archetypes of the Universe. The number 2 and thus the concept of duality can be used in many, many ways by an infinitely creative mind.

More to the point of your situation, yes you are correct and as I'm sure you are aware Raphael is the Archangel of Healing, which is precisely what you are seeking. I will also charge your field with Light which will 'fill the vaccuum' once the energization of the Belphegor entity has been discharged. This will hopefully put you back in the harmonic or sub-octave which is the organic reality and no longer in the harmonic the shadow state. Then from there you can assess your situation further.

You expressedly give me permission to aid in the calling of Light and cleansing of your field, yes? I ask only that on your side to aid the effort to fill yourself with faith of the effectiveness of the method and belief that it will work. The natural flow of energy should do the rest. Well, and of course my own talents on this end.

[Jade]

Hi friends. Thank you all for the lively discussion! This is an issue that gets to the heart of the Ra material - what is a negative greeting? How do we deal with it? How do we apply our will and faith to manifest the reality we desire? It is all very complicated and personal, which is probably why this discussion seems to have gotten a bit heated.

With moderator hat upon the head, I would like to take a moment to encourage everyone to remember a few things: kindness, patience, and the light touch always being important to keep in mind. But specifically to this thread, we have had a few lines crossed where we have discussed and attempted diagnosis of the mental state of others. This is not in the spirit of the Bring4th forums. While it is one thing to attempt to remind others that all things originate from the mind, which they do, it is another to label others with a specific mental "disorder" such as schizophrenia or depression - "disorders" that carry a huge stigma in Western society. The fact is, if an average internet user came to Bring4th, they would likely diagnose every single person who posts here as schizophrenic or depressed - which who knows, might even be accurate by standards of current medicine! The point is, these labels do not get to the heart of the matter - the Law of One focuses a lot on self healing and gives a lot of information about how to achieve a healed self. I would like to attempt to direct the conversation towards that much more productive discussion instead of continuing to point fingers at each other.

Bring4th contains much of elevated consciousness but none of us here are gurus. No one has all the answers for the other, and more often than not, soliciting advice from these forums brings up more catalyst than it actually helps resolve in the moment! We are all bozos on the bus and we'd do well to remember that we have intentionally chosen to have differing points of view of this reality as a service to the Creator.

Thanks again as always to everyone for being a part of our community.
The Mod Squad

[Jade]

Now I shall put upon my head my other posting hat, the "I love the Law of One and I love regurgitating my interpretation of the Law of One and sharing it with others" hat. Dante, thank you for your thread. I am very sorry to hear of all of the sufferings that you have endured. As you have probably come to learn from interacting with others here already, we all have infinite tales of woe from our current lifetimes. We are united in our suffering on this plane. So, I reach my hand out to you.

Your situation is not uncommon, actually. In fact I've heard versions of your story many times from others who have come to this forum - of course, not identical, but similar stories of being targeted due to polarity, implanted, and basically disabled for a better word. It's extremely unfortunate how common of an occurrence this is and I am so very sorry.

The Law of One actually does have practical solutions to your problems. Others have tried to share these with you but their frivolity never properly conveyed the difficulty of actually applying the lessons that Ra has offered. I'll do my best to explain it in the context of the Law of One that I can. This is only a distillation of my own personal thoughts and experiences, so I apologize in advance if they are not congruent with yours.

What is polarity in the context of the Law of One? It starts in the mind, as all things originate from the mind, including the body and the spirit. Ra offers us the archetype of the Transformation of the Mind - where once must make the conscious decision to let go of the hand of the maiden of the STO path or let go of the hand of the prostitute of the STS path. This is not as easy as it can appear and can be quite daunting in fact. The problem with our third density reality, positive wanderers, and the Transformation of the Mind, is that little imp guy up in the corner:



That little imp guy makes sure that when you make a left-hand transformation, that you feel good about it. This is the great trap. When you make a right hand transformation of the mind, you are more likely to feel pain and despair, because you are moving closer in empathy to the other incarnate entities who are separated by the veil, which is an emotionally difficult place to be. Now, it's very very easy for a naive wanderer to embark down the left-hand path while incarnate and only haven partially pierced the veil, mainly because of that imp, but the problem is that once a positive wanderer begins to embark on that path, after a while the imp of protection starts to wear off because the positive higher self feels torment from the incarnate's choices, which is where a lot of confusion, frustration, and madness come from.

Now, I'm not saying that this is your path, I am just explaining the mechanics of the archetype.

Another way Ra describes this as "random holes in the energy field" that can be tapped by entities who "may or may not wish to serve", speaking of why it is important to open the indigo ray in a more dependable way. Ra also mentions how one can develop "insanity" if they try to polarize more quickly than they can integrate experience. In my opinion the clue here is that (daily) meditation is what helps us integrate our experience.

There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed and the great work goes on.

Thus we see the so-called insanity which may often arise when an entity attempts to polarize more quickly than experience may be integrated.

You speak of drawing attention because of your polarity. This is very often the case, too. A positive wanderer starts to have enough power to affect changes in their reality. Then, the tricks come - those "feel good" moments that tell you that you are doing the right thing because they "feel right" but haven't properly been examined through the lens of the Transformation of the Mind - which is, is this courting the resources of the deep mind/others or is it plundering?

Let me take an example, and I'm not trying to blame you or point a finger, this is just an example of something I see happen commonly. You mentioned how you didn't care about the polarity of the channeler or the channeled entity, that you trusted your own discernment to get valuable information out of whatever is being channeled. However, when I read Ra, or Q'uo - I feel a distinct intermingling of their energies with my own to be able to manifest their message to me. We access the channeled information from negative entities and think we can use our discernment, but we take for granted that there is a magical, energetic exchange happening when we engage with these entities. To me, this is an act of "plundering" for resources instead of courting - courting involves more internal work, meditation and self-reflection to lead to deeper truths, not outside entities who offer a quick fix.

The problem happens that when we find ourselves on a path - mainly, the path of fear, which you exhibit - every day we wake up and confirm our fears, every day we wake up and address our implants and manipulations, we are doubling that. This is shown by the triangle separating at the feet of the Conscious Mind in the tarot card. Every day you wake up and say, 'the gestalt is out to get me', you reinforce that reality. Of course, they are happy to hold your hand and guide you down that path - this is certainly not only the work of yourself. You are veiled and weakened by it and they exploit that to the fullest. But the fact is that reality is an illusion, and infinite realities can be manifested - it's those that we choose to focus on and invest our energies in that therefore manifest.

I know that this is beyond most people's believability threshold. But, there is a reason why I posted a black helicopter hovering above a home in the 'Law of One and Targeted Individuals' post. Because that is precisely what has happened in my case. This all started when these choppers would circle my home. This would go on periodically for months. Sometimes the chopper would come so close to my home that it felt like it was landing on my roof. They were doing some kind of 'targeted' programming on me from the chopper. Still happens from time to time. Here's the rub though! I do not think these are humans. Remember, certain beings can take on human form. Perhaps it's the Orion group, the Lizzies, Zetans, who knows for sure? The entities that are attached to me are always claiming them as their own. So, go figure.

I live in a highly militarized area and would not be exaggerating if I said I had helicopters fly directly over my house almost every single day. I could certainly get hysterical about them if I wanted - what are they doing? Listening? Scanning? Implanting? I can obsess about it or move on with my life. Fear generates these experiences, and fear can amplify them. One day that was a "Big Day" for me I had a man dressed in all black and sunglasses (on a snowy winter day) chase his dog into my yard and reclaim it right near my front door. I once had half a dozen uniformed military entities show up at my door with a bucket of unboxed  "smoke detectors" that they were going to install "as a gesture of safety" in multiple places in my house. I can think whatever I want about these occurrences and the discarnate entities around me will also react according to my free will chosen thoughts and distortions, and amplify them.

My belief in omnipotence?! I didn't know omnipotence was a belief. I just thought it was a word. I think you get too caught up in word play/semantics. Focus on what I'm saying. All I am saying is that if there are these 'light beings' that you reference, then I'm sure that they have enough awareness (if that is an acceptable word), to know what is going on here.

You are so very right. The lightbeings are very aware of what is happening. And they are weeping in sorrow for you. The difference between the light and the dark, is that those who are of the path of control will take every advantage and opportunity they can to influence you. Those of a positive orientation, your friends and guides, will not break your free will that way - you must invoke them, request them, ask of them - and have the will and faith to do so.

The only effective "cure" I can offer you is to wake up every morning, meditate, and reach out to your higher self/your true guides and friends, and sincerely and faithfully call to them for help. And no, it's not that easy, because basically you have to do this just as many times as you have chosen in highly influenced free will to feed into a fear based reality. And the other entities will fight, you betcha. But this is why faith is important. And daily meditation. Daily meditation is THE most important protection and healing.

66.12 Questioner: Could you tell me the other ways that the entity could seek healing?

Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the greatest healer is within the self and may be tapped with continued meditation as we have suggested.

So, it's not in the 'mind' or the 'body' other than what is caused by the possession.

This is one area where I think you may be confused. The interactions between the mind and the body are how we evolve the spirit - your spiritual torment in third density is not independent of the actions and balance or lack thereof of the mind and the body. In fact, Ra says most adepts are still stuck in the phase where they are initiating the mind and have not yet initiated the body. You have taken offense when others have offered the speculation that there is more that you can do to help yourself as far as the mind complex goes - this is true for all of us. We are all essentially psychotic and crazy by manufacture of planet Earth. We have taken the plundering of resources to an extreme, so initiating the mind for service is a long process.

Thanks, but I can assure you that I have NEVER accepted anything being offered to me.

So my question here is, how absolute are you with this statement? You have NEVER accepted ANYTHING offered to you? Because the positive path is the path of acceptance - acceptance of all of the crazy catalyst we have chosen to endure in this lifetime. Whether it's preventative, or a timeline that we were manipulated into - these are the experiences that we are having for the Creator, so that the Creator can know itself through the infinite myriad of experiences that are possible. Accept that, and you no longer can the neggies target the distortion of resistance/nonacceptance.

I know your just being helpful but you have to stop looking at this as though it's something that "I am" or "am not" doing. Stop looking to place blame on me and place it where it belongs and that's on the beings that are doing this. I can assure you that they are reading these posts.

The only reason anyone has put any perceived blame upon you is YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HERE. I'm sorry. There's no one else to put the blame upon. I am you, you are me, the entities who are watching are also you and me. This is why everyone has attempted to assure you that you are in more control than you think - not to blame, but to try to inspire you to reach past the unworthiness that blocks your indigo ray and makes you doubt the power of your own manifestations. It's the negative greetings that make you feel helpless, that make you scoff and lash out when others tell you that you have the power to help yourself and shut them down. We aren't saying this out of speculation or attempts at minimizing what you are going through, most of us speak of these things because of direct experience with overcoming heavy oppositional forces on a regular basis.

[Dante776]

Now I shall put upon my head my other posting hat, the "I love the Law of One and I love regurgitating my interpretation of the Law of One and sharing it with others" hat. Dante, thank you for your thread. I am very sorry to hear of all of the sufferings that you have endured. As you have probably come to learn from interacting with others here already, we all have infinite tales of woe from our current lifetimes. We are united in our suffering on this plane. So, I reach my hand out to you.

Your situation is not uncommon, actually. In fact I've heard versions of your story many times from others who have come to this forum - of course, not identical, but similar stories of being targeted due to polarity, implanted, and basically disabled for a better word. It's extremely unfortunate how common of an occurrence this is and I am so very sorry.

The Law of One actually does have practical solutions to your problems. Others have tried to share these with you but their frivolity never properly conveyed the difficulty of actually applying the lessons that Ra has offered. I'll do my best to explain it in the context of the Law of One that I can. This is only a distillation of my own personal thoughts and experiences, so I apologize in advance if they are not congruent with yours.

I think you and others may be in over your heads on this one. We have to stop thinking that the Law of One applies to 'every' situation. When it comes to battling Satan, we may require greater tools for spiritual warfare!

What is polarity in the context of the Law of One? It starts in the mind, as all things originate from the mind, including the body and the spirit. Ra offers us the archetype of the Transformation of the Mind - where once must make the conscious decision to let go of the hand of the maiden of the STO path or let go of the hand of the prostitute of the STS path. This is not as easy as it can appear and can be quite daunting in fact. The problem with our third density reality, positive wanderers, and the Transformation of the Mind, is that little imp guy up in the corner:



That little imp guy makes sure that when you make a left-hand transformation, that you feel good about it. This is the great trap. When you make a right hand transformation of the mind, you are more likely to feel pain and despair, because you are moving closer in empathy to the other incarnate entities who are separated by the veil, which is an emotionally difficult place to be. Now, it's very very easy for a naive wanderer to embark down the left-hand path while incarnate and only haven partially pierced the veil, mainly because of that imp, but the problem is that once a positive wanderer begins to embark on that path, after a while the imp of protection starts to wear off because the positive higher self feels torment from the incarnate's choices, which is where a lot of confusion, frustration, and madness come from.

Now, I'm not saying that this is your path, I am just explaining the mechanics of the archetype.

Another way Ra describes this as "random holes in the energy field" that can be tapped by entities who "may or may not wish to serve", speaking of why it is important to open the indigo ray in a more dependable way. Ra also mentions how one can develop "insanity" if they try to polarize more quickly than they can integrate experience. In my opinion the clue here is that (daily) meditation is what helps us integrate our experience.

I will refer to an excerpt from the article "Meditation – The Possibility of Spirit Possession" by Dr. John Weldon.

Because of modern reluctance to deal forthrightly and responsibly with the category of the demonic, meditation is one of the common methods available for becoming possessed by spirits who are really demons. Endless numbers of gurus, psychics, mediums, other occultists, and even scholarly authorities testify to this. For example, Dr. Weldon’s Ph.D. dissertation researched over 30 different Hindu and Buddhist gurus, and every one had been spirit-influenced or possessed, apparently during their meditative practices.

There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat transformed and the great work goes on.

Thus we see the so-called insanity which may often arise when an entity attempts to polarize more quickly than experience may be integrated.

You speak of drawing attention because of your polarity. This is very often the case, too. A positive wanderer starts to have enough power to affect changes in their reality. Then, the tricks come - those "feel good" moments that tell you that you are doing the right thing because they "feel right" but haven't properly been examined through the lens of the Transformation of the Mind - which is, is this courting the resources of the deep mind/others or is it plundering?

Let me take an example, and I'm not trying to blame you or point a finger, this is just an example of something I see happen commonly. You mentioned how you didn't care about the polarity of the channeler or the channeled entity, that you trusted your own discernment to get valuable information out of whatever is being channeled. However, when I read Ra, or Q'uo - I feel a distinct intermingling of their energies with my own to be able to manifest their message to me. We access the channeled information from negative entities and think we can use our discernment, but we take for granted that there is a magical, energetic exchange happening when we engage with these entities. To me, this is an act of "plundering" for resources instead of courting - courting involves more internal work, meditation and self-reflection to lead to deeper truths, not outside entities who offer a quick fix.

The problem happens that when we find ourselves on a path - mainly, the path of fear, which you exhibit - every day we wake up and confirm our fears, every day we wake up and address our implants and manipulations, we are doubling that. This is shown by the triangle separating at the feet of the Conscious Mind in the tarot card. Every day you wake up and say, 'the gestalt is out to get me', you reinforce that reality. Of course, they are happy to hold your hand and guide you down that path - this is certainly not only the work of yourself. You are veiled and weakened by it and they exploit that to the fullest. But the fact is that reality is an illusion, and infinite realities can be manifested - it's those that we choose to focus on and invest our energies in that therefore manifest.

I'm sorry man, but you are totally missing the point. And anyone endorsing this misses the point as well. First of all I never said anything about 'not caring about the polarity of the channeler or the channeled entity, and trusting my own discernment to get valuable information out of whatever is being channeled.' You're getting me confused for someone else.

Secondly, you are clearly someone that doesn't understand possession. And just from reading your responses here, I would be willing to bet that if it happened to you, that you would not even come close to surviving it. You mistake identifying the culprit, which in this case is 'Satan,' as exhibiting fears. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don't wake up confirming my fears. I wake up with the expectation of defeating this monster! And I don't say 'the gestalt is out to get me.' The entity already has me! What part about the words 'DEMON POSSESSION' don't you understand? This is not some head trip man. This is not some illusion! This s*** is real!! You're coming at me from a psychological angle just like others have tried to do and these tired Western "shrink" methods DO NOT APPLY IN THIS CASE!

I know that this is beyond most people's believability threshold. But, there is a reason why I posted a black helicopter hovering above a home in the 'Law of One and Targeted Individuals' post. Because that is precisely what has happened in my case. This all started when these choppers would circle my home. This would go on periodically for months. Sometimes the chopper would come so close to my home that it felt like it was landing on my roof. They were doing some kind of 'targeted' programming on me from the chopper. Still happens from time to time. Here's the rub though! I do not think these are humans. Remember, certain beings can take on human form. Perhaps it's the Orion group, the Lizzies, Zetans, who knows for sure? The entities that are attached to me are always claiming them as their own. So, go figure.

I live in a highly militarized area and would not be exaggerating if I said I had helicopters fly directly over my house almost every single day. I could certainly get hysterical about them if I wanted - what are they doing? Listening? Scanning? Implanting? I can obsess about it or move on with my life. Fear generates these experiences, and fear can amplify them. One day that was a "Big Day" for me I had a man dressed in all black and sunglasses (on a snowy winter day) chase his dog into my yard and reclaim it right near my front door. I once had half a dozen uniformed military entities show up at my door with a bucket of unboxed  "smoke detectors" that they were going to install "as a gesture of safety" in multiple places in my house. I can think whatever I want about these occurrences and the discarnate entities around me will also react according to my free will chosen thoughts and distortions, and amplify them.

You live in a highly militarized area because you're probably military. And the military entities that showed up at your door with the bucket of smoke detectors were probably installing them in all of the military homes for safety as a "direct order." Now, don't go getting upset with me because I said that. I just wanted to see if the discarnate entities around me would react according to my free will chosen thoughts and distortions, and amplify them. Didn't happen!

My belief in omnipotence?! I didn't know omnipotence was a belief. I just thought it was a word. I think you get too caught up in word play/semantics. Focus on what I'm saying. All I am saying is that if there are these 'light beings' that you reference, then I'm sure that they have enough awareness (if that is an acceptable word), to know what is going on here.

You are so very right. The lightbeings are very aware of what is happening. And they are weeping in sorrow for you. The difference between the light and the dark, is that those who are of the path of control will take every advantage and opportunity they can to influence you. Those of a positive orientation, your friends and guides, will not break your free will that way - you must invoke them, request them, ask of them - and have the will and faith to do so.

The only effective "cure" I can offer you is to wake up every morning, meditate, and reach out to your higher self/your true guides and friends, and sincerely and faithfully call to them for help. And no, it's not that easy, because basically you have to do this just as many times as you have chosen in highly influenced free will to feed into a fear based reality. And the other entities will fight, you betcha. But this is why faith is important. And daily meditation. Daily meditation is THE most important protection and healing.

Sooo you think that intelligent, credible individuals who claim to be demon possessed are simply feeding into a fear based reality? You can't possibly be that uninformed. Just ask your military. Uhh, I meant 'our' military. They could probably confirm it for you far better than I can. In the meantime, let me help you out a little bit...

With the AFFA Affair, you have Office of Naval Intelligence, FBI, CIA, and USAF intelligence officers investigating a woman who claimed to be in psychic contact with entities that identified themselves as aliens based on Jupiter [1957]. The following is an excerpt from an article on the website OpenMinds.tv entitled Air Force Colonel’s inside look at Project Blue Book.

AH: Right, another case that intrigues me, I think that Bob Emenegger wrote about it, you know, the one about the, they called it the Affa affair, the one with the Navy Intelligence.
RF: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
AH: Can you tell me a little bit about it? You were involved in it?
RF: Yeah, yeah, what happened there was that, here is a case where one of the other agencies did indeed investigate something, OK, it was reported that a lady in Maine had been having mental contacts with foreign, or not foreign but alien elements that were at that particular time patrolling our universe, they were patrolling it because they were representatives from Uranus and Venus…
AC: A Confederation like Star Trek.
AH: Yeah, but this is before Star Trek.
RF: That’s correct, so that she had gone into trance and had she had started to write information, you know, it was supposed to being passed to her from these beings, now, this information during the investigation they said that she really and truly was putting down things that were far beyond her educational level, right, and especially in the area of technology and astronomy, so during the investigation it surfaced that she was really and truly just a communication level, and what they were willing to do was to exercise the same communication link with someone else, so one of these [Naval] officers, he said OK, and he sat there, went into a trance and lo and behold he was being exercised as a communication link, so he came back to Washington and repeated it before several people in the intelligence community and they asked some specific questions, the way, as a communications link the way it works is that the person would go into a trance and then someone else would ask a question, and he would pass these questions on and then he would get the answer, which he would write it out, OK, so they during one of these episodes asked that they be given a sign that would convince them all that this was really happening, and they were told to go to the window, they all went to the window, they looked out, whoosh, a spacecraft of some kind goes by.

Covert Transhumanism: A Mind Control Documentary

Operation Armageddon Demonic Possession And Spiritual Warfare Facades

Age of Deceit: Fallen Angels and the New World Order

Preliminary Findings Of Project MILAB

66.12 Questioner: Could you tell me the other ways that the entity could seek healing?

Ra: I am Ra. Perhaps the greatest healer is within the self and may be tapped with continued meditation as we have suggested.

So, it's not in the 'mind' or the 'body' other than what is caused by the possession.

This is one area where I think you may be confused. The interactions between the mind and the body are how we evolve the spirit - your spiritual torment in third density is not independent of the actions and balance or lack thereof of the mind and the body. In fact, Ra says most adepts are still stuck in the phase where they are initiating the mind and have not yet initiated the body. You have taken offense when others have offered the speculation that there is more that you can do to help yourself as far as the mind complex goes - this is true for all of us. We are all essentially psychotic and crazy by manufacture of planet Earth. We have taken the plundering of resources to an extreme, so initiating the mind for service is a long process.

That's because you're treating demon or spirit possession as though it is 'just' a psychological issue, and it's not.

Thanks, but I can assure you that I have NEVER accepted anything being offered to me.

So my question here is, how absolute are you with this statement? You have NEVER accepted ANYTHING offered to you? Because the positive path is the path of acceptance - acceptance of all of the crazy catalyst we have chosen to endure in this lifetime. Whether it's preventative, or a timeline that we were manipulated into - these are the experiences that we are having for the Creator, so that the Creator can know itself through the infinite myriad of experiences that are possible. Accept that, and you no longer can the neggies target the distortion of resistance/nonacceptance.

Sorry, but you have taken this statement out of context. Here is what was said...

REFUSE to accept what is being offered. (Close your 'hand'. The offering falls.)

Thanks, but I can assure you that I have NEVER accepted anything being offered to me. I have been trying to rid this from the time that if first started moving my foot to communicate with me.

I know your just being helpful but you have to stop looking at this as though it's something that "I am" or "am not" doing. Stop looking to place blame on me and place it where it belongs and that's on the beings that are doing this. I can assure you that they are reading these posts.

The only reason anyone has put any perceived blame upon you is YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE HERE. I'm sorry. There's no one else to put the blame upon. I am you, you are me, the entities who are watching are also you and me. This is why everyone has attempted to assure you that you are in more control than you think - not to blame, but to try to inspire you to reach past the unworthiness that blocks your indigo ray and makes you doubt the power of your own manifestations. It's the negative greetings that make you feel helpless, that make you scoff and lash out when others tell you that you have the power to help yourself and shut them down. We aren't saying this out of speculation or attempts at minimizing what you are going through, most of us speak of these things because of direct experience with overcoming heavy oppositional forces on a regular basis.

Again, I don't mean to sound flip, but none of you have ever experienced a possession the likes of which I am experiencing because if you did, based on what I have heard from those of you that have been cynical, I seriously believe that you would either O.D. or end up in a straight jacket because I don't believe any of you would have the strength or courage to go day after day for 14 years with this the way that I have. Not one of you!

The advice that you are offering is for weak minded individuals who cannot handle the demon in the EXTREME! Who end up self medicating, cutting, or starving themselves to death. That's not the case here! And, although I find no enjoyment in 'handling it,' I am able to go on day to day despite this horrible condition.

The only person that I think really gets it is Aion. Because he is the only one that realizes that this thing has to be fought on a spiritual level. Not by chastising me and telling me that I'm to blame and that I'm not doing enough. No, if you really want to help me, YOU petition the entities on my behalf. YOU express your disdainment, your outrage!! Let them know that you don't approve of this attack on one of your Bring4th brethren and that we are all UNITED together in solidarity against demonic attacks. That's how you can help me!! It will show the 'demons' that you have the strength, courage, and valor to speak up on behalf of a fellow human being, one that you hardly know but sensed his pain and decided to speak out! That's Love! That's what they want to see from YOU! Otherwise, You are afraid...You don't have courage...You live in fear...and YOU are just blowing smoke up my a** and really don't want to help me at all!

The truth is not won by a popularity vote; but by the relatively awakened few.

[Jade]

I think you and others may be in over your heads on this one. We have to stop thinking that the Law of One applies to 'every' situation. When it comes to battling Satan, we may require greater tools for spiritual warfare!

This is a Law of One forum, and when I began my post I said I was only going to filter my perceptions through the Law of One. I don't really have anything else to offer you. It's probably true that we're in over our heads! But you asked for help, so what you will get are many fumbling attempts at helping, by the nature of our philosophy. I'm sorry that most of them have failed you so far.

I'm sorry man, but you are totally missing the point. And anyone endorsing this misses the point as well. First of all I never said anything about 'not caring about the polarity of the channeler or the channeled entity, and trusting my own discernment to get valuable information out of whatever is being channeled.' You're getting me confused for someone else.

I was considering this:

I don't think Ashayana Deane is a fraud. I think it boils down to the knowledge, education, and comprehension level of the reader. Do I agree with every single thing she writes about. NO! However, I am able to read through the material and take what resonates with me and dismiss the rest without having to call her a fraud. If anything, some of the entities that she and people in her channeling group are channeling is what's at question. Not the channeler! Often times these entities will couch their information in the form of a space drama involving good and evil players as part of their duality based programming. That's the nature of multi-dimensional consciousness. It is not all love and light as you guys have been lead to believe and until you realize this, you will never be truly enlightened.

But again, I said I was just offering an example.

If you don't believe meditation can help you, and you don't believe polarity can help you, then I'm not sure that the Law of One can help you. Aion is very skilled so I hope he is able to help you with the forcible removal of the entities. You deserve peace and I'm sorry you haven't found it in 14 years. I will definitely continue to pray for you.

[Aion]

My friends, I have seen many things over not so many years and there is one beautiful tool I would like to offer you - validation. Forget about your perspective. Completely step out of your shoes and just let yourself embrace and accept entirely the reality that your hurt friend is expressing. You don't have to take it on yourself, just say, yes, I understand, I believe, you are valid. This simple tool is one of the most powerful I have encountered for facing these kinds of situations. Stop trying to give of yourself when the service that is needed is for someone to receive. Receive this person, that is how you 'gather an entity in to the heart of your being', you must receive them. Forget about giving. Giving is selfish sometimes. This is how we build a powerful consensus reality of support to energize our brother. We go to him, in his reality, and love him there because that is where he is. If you want to help someone you have to go to them, you don't make them come to you. You think that to embrace this reality is to empower the negative entities but it is exactly the exact opposite. You don't need to understand, you just need to accept, love and validate.

THEY ENERGIZE DOUBT, CONFUSION, UNCERTAINTY, FEAR, CONFLICT

To acknowledge, validation and belief is to dispel and discharge these energies and to help release the vibrations which have become locked in place. Belief is just a tool, my friends, it is not something concrete. It can be used to help people, but you must be willing to let go of your 'systems', so that you can listen and receive each individual personally.

This is not to say anyone is doing anything 'wrong', that is not what I am saying. Everybody is absolutely valid. However, this is something that I would attribute to my 'skills' and it is something I want to teach. Teach what you have learned, right? This is what I have learned. I hope some may find it useful.

Dante, I am going to push and purge, but it is you who must be ready for reality to change, for miracles to happen and magic to take place. It can only be done through the connection to that self that creates realities itself. The change will happen in your own field and in your own body.

[Zach]

Edit due to speaking from anger.

[Dante776]

Dante776 , I hope you know, that there are people here that see your True intent.

Yes, and unfortunately one of them isn't you.

This is a forum that seeks the Positive Polarity- if it is not for you.

Wrong! This forum is exactly for me. The Law of One talks about positively-polarized individuals encountering 4th or 5th density negatives. Known as the Orion group. The Orion Group is a Satanic force that has a predatorial ideology and predator mind. Have you not read any of this? Have you not seen where Aion is attempting to help me? Do you not think that seekers should be aware of these hidden or unsuspected dangers? Maybe it is you that is not spiritually and intellectually prepared for this journey. Maybe it is you that this forum is not for. You need to examine own spiritual aptitude more closely and stop criticizing others that are seeking help through 'bringing 4th' awareness. Today it may be me. But tomorrow it could be you! I don't sense love and light from you. Just someone that wants to remain in La La Land. So, so long, farewell, and adieu to you too!

[rva_jeremy]

The forum is for all. It doesn't mean everybody -- or anybody -- will want to discuss what any other single person wants to at any given time.

And that's ok.

[Dante776]

If you don't believe meditation can help you, and you don't believe polarity can help you, then I'm not sure that the Law of One can help you. Aion is very skilled so I hope he is able to help you with the forcible removal of the entities. You deserve peace and I'm sorry you haven't found it in 14 years. I will definitely continue to pray for you.

I do meditate. I've been meditating the entire time during this ordeal. And even before it. The point is to be sure to do protection rituals and be careful what you allow into your circle. Thanks for your prayers.

[loostudent]

Dante, this is an excerpt from a book An Exorcist Tells His Story by G. Amarth, who was a chief exorcist of Catholic Church. Maybe you can find some useful points.

Ordinary activity. This is "temptation", which is the most common activity of the demons, and it is directed against all men. When Jesus allowed Satan to tempt him, he accepted our human condition. I will not talk about this common diabolical endeavor, because the purpose of this book is to highlight Satan's "extraordinary activity", which can take place only if God so allows.

This second category can take six different forms:

1. External physical pain caused by Satan. We know of this from many lives of the saints. We know that Saint Paul of the Cross, the Curé of Ars, Padre Pio, and many others were beaten, flogged, and pummeled by demons. This external form of persecution does riot affect the soul; therefore with this type there has never been the need for an exorcism, only for prayers. Here I will dwell only on the other types of actions that directly affect exorcists.

2. Demonic possession. This occurs when Satan takes full possession of the body (not the soul); he speaks and acts without the knowledge or consent of the victim, who therefore is morally blameless. It is the gravest and most spectacular form of demonic afflictions, and it attracts the attention of producers of movies such as The Exorcist. According to the Ritual for exorcisms, some of the signs of possession include: speaking in tongues, extraordinary strength, and revealing the unknown. The man of Gerasa is a clear Gospel example of possession. To fix a set "model" for demonic possession would be a serious mistake; the affliction runs the gamut of symptoms and severity. For instance, I have exercised two totally possessed persons who remained perfectly still and silent during the exorcism. I could cite many other examples and as many different symptoms.

3. Diabolical oppression. Symptoms vary from a very serious to a mild illness. There is no possession, loss of consciousness, or involuntary action and word. The Bible gives us many examples of oppression; one of them is job, He was not possessed, but he lost his children, his goods, and his health. The bent woman and the deaf and dumb man who were cured by Jesus were not subject to total possession, but there was a demonic presence that caused physical discomfort. Saint Paul was most certainly not possessed by a demon, but he had a demonic oppression that caused an evil affliction: "And to keep me from being too elated by the abundance of revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan, to harass me" (2 Cor 12:7). There is no doubting the evil origin of the affliction.

While possessions are still relatively rare today, we exorcists run into a great number of people who have been struck by the devil in their health, jobs, or relationships. We must make it clear that to diagnose and heal an oppression-related illness is not any easier than to diagnose and cure a person afflicted by full possession. The degree of gravity may be different, but the difficulty of the diagnosis and the amount of time involved in healing are the same.

4. Diabolic obsession. Symptoms include sudden attacks, at times ongoing, of obsessive thoughts, sometimes even rationally absurd, but of such nature that the victim is unable to free himself Therefore the obsessed person lives in a perpetual state of prostration, desperation, and attempts at suicide. Almost always obsession influences dreams. Some people will say that this is evidence of mental illness, requiring the services of a psychiatrist or a psychologist. The same could be said of all other forms of demonic phenomena. Some symptoms, however, are so inconsistent with known illnesses that they point with certainty to their evil origins. Only an expert and well-trained eye can identify the crucial differences.

5. Diabolic infestation. Infestations affect houses, things, or animals. This book will only mention the topic. I merely want to state that I will never use this term when I refer to persons. I will always talk about possession, oppression, and obsession.

6. Diabolical subjugation, or dependence. People fall into this form of evil when they voluntarily submit to Satan. The two most common forms of dependence are the blood pact with the devil and the consecration to Satan.

How can we defend ourselves from all these evils? A strict interpretation of the Ritual confines the use of exorcisms only to instances of true possession. However, as I stated before, the current Ritual fails to address many occasions in which an exorcist diagnoses an evil influence. In all cases when there is no possession, the usual means to obtain grace should be sufficient. These means are prayer; the sacraments; almsgiving; leading a Christian life; pardoning offenses; and soliciting the aid of our Lord, Mary, the saints, and the angels. I will now say a few words about the angels. I gladly end this chapter on the devil, Christ's adversary, by speaking about the angels. They are our great allies. We owe them a great debt, and it is a mistake to mention them as rarely as we do. Every one of us has a guardian angel, most faithful of friends twenty-four hours a day, from conception to death. He unceasingly protects us, body and soul, while we, for the most part, never think about him. We also know that each nation has its particular guardian angel and, probably, every community and family, although we are not certain on the two last points. We know, however, that the angels are a multitude, and their desire to help us is much greater than Satan's desire to destroy us.

[Dante776]

Dante, this is an excerpt from a book An Exorcist Tells His Story by G. Amarth, who was a chief exorcist of Catholic Church. Maybe you can find some useful points.

Ordinary activity. This is "temptation", which is the most common activity of the demons, and it is directed against all men. When Jesus allowed Satan to tempt him, he accepted our human condition. I will not talk about this common diabolical endeavor, because the purpose of this book is to highlight Satan's "extraordinary activity", which can take place only if God so allows...

Thanks. I appreciate your help but I'm of the belief that the rabbit hole of Satan, although extensive and wide, may not be as 'deep' as we may have previously thought. Much of what we refer to as demonic oppression comes from elements that are entrenched within our own reality.

The tentacles of the Orion group reach far and wide. They extend into the shadow government and the extremely profitable military industrial complex. They hang out in the lower fourth dimension, the lower astral as many people call it, the traditional home for the "demons" of folklore and myth. These fourth-dimensional entities work through human bodies and the secret society network that their 'bloodlines' have created or infiltrated. They work through hybrid bloodlines because they have a vibrational compatibility with each other.

The number of victims known as Targeted Individuals, or TI's for short, is growing exponentially every day. And we cannot prevail against the onslaught of the 'demons,' if we are not collectively wise to their ways. In light of new information that has come to us in recent years regarding STS DNA harvesting beings, we have to look at the 'demonic' possession phenomenon differently than we have in the past.

Currently, most humans are being 'enactated' rather than 'enacted.' Enactation is the process through which human beings are unconsciously enslaved in today’s reality respective to their 'true' free-will...

Enactation being less in most Human Beings serving the Light, Divine Heart, all Reptilian Hard Mantles but a minority receiving Divine Heart mid-2012 and being transformed into Human Beings towards the end of 2012, the expression of each Human Being on Planet Earth enriched by his/her respective twelve shamanics in order to facilitate his/her respective mission is still such that Divinity and True Truth within understood context has prevailed throughout time, Hatred’s, Envy’s and natural Overbearingness’ worst, best, efforts notwithstanding...

The members of the Light in this struggle until the end of 2012 were also Enactated by the Reptilians of Old but over-ride of their actions was constantly provided either by their connection to their parents (Suns, Heavens and Other Members of the Higher Realms, remember “Our Father Who art in Heaven”, it is meant literally) providing them with relative privilege or through their connection with Divine Providence via their respective Akhashik records, unless serious sabotage and subversion were deployed which usually required prior surgical intervention...

In the meantime, back here in the Heart of the Crown Jewel all who possibly can HEAVE DISPRESPECT upon this Reality from whichever corner of another Universe are doing so, usually through the Higher Realms Beings which find themselves interlaced throughout all of Reality in a way that makes their connection network practically seamless, “boundlessness” courtesy of Hyperboling from Reality to Reality, sometimes, albeit rarely, having themselves transformed between Forms of Beings in order to escape detection, on readily available Intricates usually unaware of serving as spring-boards also being an issue, on their “own” terms – hardly for they are nearly ALL themselves SUBVERTED in one way or another - so as to either partake in the “Gifts from Heaven” without any need for criteria for Self, Self be seriously wont, or to control ALL.

From 'Gaia, the Blue Planet, Planet Earth, The Crown Jewel of Realities' http://humansarefree.com/2014/06/gaia-bl...crown.html

When we view this phenomenon through the prism of the Ra Material (STS/STO), we get a better understanding of why certain individuals are targeted by 'dark' forces, some more so than others. This not to frighten anyone, but to help us to be better informed about the forces that we are up against in our Reality.

FORBIDDEN TECH, Targeted Individuals, Free Energy & Fallen Angels!!
http://angelascaches.org/forbidden-tech-...en-angels/

Message from Greg Giles – ‘Channeled Messages’ & their Link to Mind Control Programs
https://prepareforchange.net/2016/01/17/...d-control/

The Magnificat: The Innately Heinous Beings - Subversion of Essence
http://humansarefree.com/2014/03/the-mag...eings.html

[loostudent]

The tentacles of the Orion group reach far and wide.

This was known already in the old times. "For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places." (Ef 6,12)

In light of new information that has come to us in recent years regarding STS DNA harvesting beings, we have to look at the 'demonic' possession phenomenon differently than we have in the past.

Harvest was also prhophecised long time ago but with different meaning.

When we view this phenomenon through the prism of the Ra Material (STS/STO), we get a better understanding of why certain individuals are targeted by 'dark' forces, some more so than others. This not to frighten anyone, but to help us to be better informed about the forces that we are up against in our Reality.

You mean this? (below)

By this time, it may seem to you that psychic greetings were really occupying our time. You would be right. As Jim and Ra both say, it is easier to be noticed when you’re standing in a spotlight. Metaphysically, the contact with those of Ra was a blinding cynosure. Although we continued to be obscure and completely anonymous in any earthly sense, we had become very noticeable to “the loyal opposition.” (Carla)

101.8 Questioner: Thank you. Could Ra give information on any way that we could give information to Greta Woodrew as to how to alleviate her present condition of swelling?

Ra: I am Ra. We may only suggest that the honor of propinquity to light carries with it the Law of Responsibility. The duty to refrain from contumely, discord, and all things which, when unresolved within, make way for workings lies before the instrument of which you speak.

[Turtle]

Dante, I am going to push and purge, but it is you who must be ready for reality to change, for miracles to happen and magic to take place. It can only be done through the connection to that self that creates realities itself. The change will happen in your own field and in your own body.

Yeah, pretty much spot on there, lol.

[Dante776]

My apologies, I brought up Cassiopeians because your comments on the 4D+ dark aliens are quite similar to what Laura and her material say. She and the channeled entities also refer to reptilians as "Lizzies," which I didn't think was widely used outside of that context.

The term 'Lizzies' was actually coined by the Pleiadians. In their Book 'Bringers of the Dawn' they state, "We call them the Lizzies because we like to make things a little less emotional and a little humorous so that you don't take them so seriously and get so upset."

[Turtle]

My apologies, I brought up Cassiopeians because your comments on the 4D+ dark aliens are quite similar to what Laura and her material say. She and the channeled entities also refer to reptilians as "Lizzies," which I didn't think was widely used outside of that context.

The term 'Lizzies' was actually coined by the Pleiadians. In their Book 'Bringers of the Dawn' they state, "We call them the Lizzies because we like to make things a little less emotional and a little humorous so that you don't take them so seriously and get so upset."

I like to call them NPC's. lol.

[Minyatur]

Just to be clear, we're f*****?

[Glow]

Do We Really Understand Demon Possession?

The following excerpt is from article entitled "Meditation – The Possibility of Spirit Possession" by Dr. John Weldon.

Because of modern reluctance to deal forthrightly and responsibly with the category of the demonic, meditation is one of the common methods available for becoming possessed by spirits who are really demons. Endless numbers of gurus, psychics, mediums, other occultists, and even scholarly authorities testify to this. For example, Dr. Weldon’s Ph.D. dissertation researched over 30 different Hindu and Buddhist gurus, and every one had been spirit-influenced or possessed, apparently during their meditative practices.

Furthermore, the spirits themselves endorse New Age meditation. The books the spirits dictate through their human mediums enthusiastically recommend meditative practices as a means to contact them. For example, Ruth Montgomery, a former hard-nosed, skeptical news­paper reporter who eventually became a medium, has single-handedly interested millions of people in the spirit world through more than a dozen books inspired or dictated by her spirit guides.

Sai Baba (1926-2011) was one of the most popular of contemporary Indian spiritual teachers (gurus). When Sai Baba was either 13 or 14 years of age, for two months his family thought he became possessed by a demon and tried to get it exorcised from him!

On September 5, 2001, on the fourth anniversary of her death, the Archbishop of Calcutta, Henry D'Souza, revealed that Mother Teresa had an exorcism performed on her while she was hospitalized in 1997. Because the Roman Catholic Church performs exorcisms only when someone is believed to be possessed by the devil, the world was shocked by such a disclosure.

"When the person is being attacked by the devil and there is some evidence of that, it's further indication that the person has a very special holiness and therefore, a very special object of attack by Satan," he said. "So it will not hurt her process at all." As to the exorcism, D'Souza says it indicates Mother Teresa was a supremely holy figure, even in the devil's eyes.

Jim Morrison, the frontman of America’s most successful band in the 60’s, admitted that he had to drink “to silence the constant voices of the demons” (James Riordin, “Break on Through: The Life and Death of Jim Morrison,” p. 23). The Door’s photographer, Frank Lisciandro, stated that,“Jim drank to quiet the ceaseless clamor of the demons, ghosts and spirits. He drank because there were demons and voices and spirits shouting inside of his head and he found that one of the ways to quell them was with alcohol”

“Brian Wilson hears voices. They talk to him. They frighten him, distract him, confuse him…the voices are calling. His eyes roll toward the ceiling; they’ve gone blank. His brow is furrowed with thick worry lines. He is silent. Gone. He looks up, jerks his head back and forth for a few seconds, as if physically shaking away the voices” Former Warner Brother Records President, Larry Waronker, claims to have met at least five different entities possessing Brian Wilson’s body (Rolling Stone, August, 1988, p. 51-52).

Carlos Santana has his own personal demon-god named, “Metatron.” Here is another disturbing excerpt from Rolling Stone magazine...“Metatron is an angel. Santana has been in regular contact with him since 1994. Carlos will sit here facing the wall, the candles lit. He has a yellow legal pad at one side, ready for the communications that will come. 'It's kind of like a fax machine,' he says” (Cover Story: The Epic Life of Carlos Santana: Santana: Rolling Stone (March 16, 2000).

Ozzy Osborne admitted, “I’ve got many, many demons that affect me on many, many levels” (Harry Shaw, “Ozzy Talking,” p. 126). Ozzie further admitted, “I remember sitting through the Exorcist a dozen times, saying to myself, ‘Yeah, I can relate to that” (Hit Parader, Nov. 1984, p. 49).

Jimi Hendrix was demon possessed...literally. He even admitted it to a number of individuals and begged his girlfriend for help (her mother was adept in voodoo exorcism). See the excellent video, They Sold Their Souls for Rock and Roll for more documentation. One of Jimi's girlfreinds had this to say:

"He used to always talk about some devil, or something that was in him, and he didn't have any control over it. He didn't know what made him act the way he acted and what made him say the things he said and the songs and different things that just came out of him. He'd say "I don't know what has come over me. I can't understand it". You know he used to just grab his hair or something or pull his hair or stand in the mirror or cry or something. Oh lord, it was so sad when he would cry. He was maybe the first man, or maybe the only man that I've ever seen cry, you know but it just killed me when he cried. It seems like to me that he was tormented and just torn apart and like he was obsessed with something really evil. And he said, "You know like you're from Georgia," you know he said, "I should know how, you know, people drive demons out". He  actually thought about, you know, if we ever go, because I used to talk about my grandmother and all her weird stuff, you know, and he used to talk about us going down there and having some root lady or somebody see if she could drive this demon out of him."

Truth is Love. Love is Truth. Truth unites. Lies divide. Embrace Truth. Care for Truth.

This is the saddest thing I have read in a while. I'm not sure if you saw the thread I started called "what causes a hole in the aura..." but just before that thread started I had my first negative greeting since awakening that I am conscious of. It clearly entered my body for a brief time, less than a minute but it was distinct. I'm going to guess a lot of my youth was spent tormented by things of such nature but I just thought it was a result of my childhood breaking me so never would have thought entity/energy. I had a raging case of ocd with lots of horrible thoughts... suicidal wishes, self harm, and just unbridled terror, its interesting in retrospect to see I was unaware I was perhaps being effected by outside forces.

Anyways I just wanted to post to thank you for sharing. I never would have believed it if I hadn't felt it, and I even today only 2 weeks later needed a reminder. I really need to do more for those affected.

I will continue reading, I wish you well and dominion free and clear of your own energy/body/spirit. Be well.

[Glow]

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[Cainite]

This is the saddest thing I have read in a while. I'm not sure if you saw the thread I started called "what causes a hole in the aura..." but just before that thread started I had my first negative greeting since awakening that I am conscious of. It clearly entered my body for a brief time, less than a minute but it was distinct. I'm going to guess a lot of my youth was spent tormented by things of such nature but I just thought it was a result of my childhood breaking me so never would have thought entity/energy. I had a raging case of ocd with lots of horrible thoughts... suicidal wishes, self harm, and just unbridled terror, its interesting in retrospect to see I was unaware I was perhaps being effected by outside forces.

Anyways I just wanted to post to thank you for sharing. I never would have believed it if I hadn't felt it, and I even today only 2 weeks later needed a reminder. I really need to do more for those affected.

I will continue reading, I wish you well and dominion free and clear of your own energy/body/spirit. Be well.

I feel you! when I was a child at nights I always feared demons and negative ghosts. so I couldn't sleep well.

I've said this before, before my mental illness happened, I contacted Orion entities.. asked questions, tried to dominate them, ... saw myself as a Vampire Lord who leeches life force and practices black magic. (that's where my username ''cainite'' comes from)
but then I realized my missteps and turns out it was too late and because of the short period I had switched polarity, I couldn't see myself as anything other than a monster. that was when the terrible schizo symptoms appeared.

Took me sometime to heal. the messed up version of me now is really hale comparing to those dark months.
I created another thread a few months ago ''There's a devil in my head'' was the title. that devil has been silenced for some time now.
(I just chekced, there's another thread with this name ''Seeing myself as a demon'')

Also the nightmares have been continuing. I think 5thd negatives provide them for me or sth. not quite sure about that.. I had these nightmares some years ago too. back then I couldn't handle them. now I may have become hardened.