The mysterious nature of time

[zenmaster]

I have always been intrigued by its contents. I do not understand it completely. Will you help me deconstruct it bit by bit, albeit, to the best of your ability/understanding?

Well, do you reflect on those feelings that seem to cause imbalance? How easy is that for you? That's all the first part is talking about. There are the obvious and the not so obvious emotions. The obvious would be the feelings that are the most pressing, the not-so-obvious might be the forgotten unaccepted feelings, perhaps from childhood. Then there's taking a look at what you like an what you don't like. Once you accept those things, you own them and they can not drive you or influence your attitude unconsciously.
That's 'polarization' where personal is 'orange', social is 'yellow'.

[Ankh]

Not sure if I can contribute with anything. Kycahi and zen said some great things, but I can use an analogy.

Imagine yourself standing at the top of a mountain waiting for the helicopter to take you home (the real One home). While you standing there and waiting for it to come and pick you up, you turn back and look down the hill, at the path that you've just wandered and think back of everything that you've been through on your way up to this particular top. While you remembering all those things; for instance when you were lost so many times, or when you were resting enjoying the flowers along the road; you get this thought: "Hey! Wouldn't it be great if I had a map?". So, since you are now at the top of this mountain and see all the roads from above, you create a map (=Higher Self).

Then you continue thinking, and detect, that if the road would be straight up to this top, you wouldn't experience much. You would know the road, you would climb straight to the top and where is the adventure/evolution in that? You start to remembering that time when you got completely lost but suddenly discovered the most beautiful meadow where you enjoyed sunrays for the rest of the day, or that time when you were all tired and exhausted and came across a water spring of the freshest source you ever tasted in your life, or that time when you met someone who changed your life completely, so then, you realize that if you would have the map all the time in your hands, you would be concerned with reaching the top, instead of discovering the world around you/discovering the world in/of you - and what would be the point of climbing for so long, in the first place then? So you hide that map very well and create something called confusion/free will. And then you start smiling thinking that yes, that would be a perfect balance, a complete beauty of knowing the road and not knowing it.

And short after that you hear the sound of that chopper, and you turn yourself to that sound, pick up your backpack and everything else that you had with you and all that you found on the road, and start smiling even more, knowing that you will now go home.

Well, maybe this anology is lame, but it's hard to explain these things somehow in another language.

[Oceania]

i'd make sure i enjoyed the road so much even if it was straight that i'd never want to leave the road.

[3DMonkey]

Not sure if I can contribute with anything. Kycahi and zen said some great things, but I can use an analogy.

Imagine yourself standing at the top of a mountain waiting for the helicopter to take you home (the real One home). While you standing there and waiting for it to come and pick you up, you turn back and look down the hill, at the path that you've just wandered and think back of everything that you've been through on your way up to this particular top. While you remembering all those things; for instance when you were lost so many times, or when you were resting enjoying the flowers along the road; you get this thought: "Hey! Wouldn't it be great if I had a map?". So, since you are now at the top of this mountain and see all the roads from above, you create a map (=Higher Self).

Then you continue thinking, and detect, that if the road would be straight up to this top, you wouldn't experience much. You would know the road, you would climb straight to the top and where is the adventure/evolution in that? You start to remembering that time when you got completely lost but suddenly discovered the most beautiful meadow where you enjoyed sunrays for the rest of the day, or that time when you were all tired and exhausted and came across a water spring of the freshest source you ever tasted in your life, or that time when you met someone who changed your life completely, so then, you realize that if you would have the map all the time in your hands, you would be concerned with reaching the top, instead of discovering the world around you/discovering the world in/of you - and what would be the point of climbing for so long, in the first place then? So you hide that map very well and create something called confusion/free will. And then you start smiling thinking that yes, that would be a perfect balance, a complete beauty of knowing the road and not knowing it.

And short after that you hear the sound of that chopper, and you turn yourself to that sound, pick up your backpack and everything else that you had with you and all that you found on the road, and start smiling even more, knowing that you will now go home.

Well, maybe this anology is lame, but it's hard to explain these things somehow in another language.

That is a terrific analogy.

[Confused]

Not sure if I can contribute with anything. Kycahi and zen said some great things, but I can use an analogy.

Imagine yourself standing at the top of a mountain waiting for the helicopter to take you home (the real One home). While you standing there and waiting for it to come and pick you up, you turn back and look down the hill, at the path that you've just wandered and think back of everything that you've been through on your way up to this particular top. While you remembering all those things; for instance when you were lost so many times, or when you were resting enjoying the flowers along the road; you get this thought: "Hey! Wouldn't it be great if I had a map?". So, since you are now at the top of this mountain and see all the roads from above, you create a map (=Higher Self).

Then you continue thinking, and detect, that if the road would be straight up to this top, you wouldn't experience much. You would know the road, you would climb straight to the top and where is the adventure/evolution in that? You start to remembering that time when you got completely lost but suddenly discovered the most beautiful meadow where you enjoyed sunrays for the rest of the day, or that time when you were all tired and exhausted and came across a water spring of the freshest source you ever tasted in your life, or that time when you met someone who changed your life completely, so then, you realize that if you would have the map all the time in your hands, you would be concerned with reaching the top, instead of discovering the world around you/discovering the world in/of you - and what would be the point of climbing for so long, in the first place then? So you hide that map very well and create something called confusion/free will. And then you start smiling thinking that yes, that would be a perfect balance, a complete beauty of knowing the road and not knowing it.

And short after that you hear the sound of that chopper, and you turn yourself to that sound, pick up your backpack and everything else that you had with you and all that you found on the road, and start smiling even more, knowing that you will now go home.

Well, maybe this anology is lame, but it's hard to explain these things somehow in another language.

I am speechless. Lame!! are you kidding me, Ankh? That was a most powerful analogy. Especially the parts surrounding confusion/freewill. Ra stands defeated before you in terms of delivering analogies. Need I say more??!!

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Our, yes OUR, Higher Self is, yes IS, helping us now, yes RIGHT NOW.

Access is granted. "Three points on a circle".

So, this sucky a$$ $hit makes our higher self a big jerk, right? Heck yeah. Big jerk. But guess what? It is us and the mentality of of being ticked off at OurSelf is a jerk.

What we are drowning in is what we need. If we want conscious access to our Higher Self, we must accept that WE ARE OUR HIGHER SELF.

(I yell out of love. Much much much love. You know that)

Thanks for your love, 3. I appreciate your deep and honest care.

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I have always been intrigued by its contents. I do not understand it completely. Will you help me deconstruct it bit by bit, albeit, to the best of your ability/understanding? Well, do you reflect on those feelings that seem to cause imbalance? How easy is that for you? That's all the first part is talking about. There are the obvious and the not so obvious emotions. The obvious would be the feelings that are the most pressing, the not-so-obvious might be the forgotten unaccepted feelings, perhaps from childhood. Then there's taking a look at what you like an what you don't like. Once you accept those things, you own them and they can not drive you or influence your attitude unconsciously.
That's 'polarization' where personal is 'orange', social is 'yellow'.

Thank you, z. I actually thought you would not respond

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i'd make sure i enjoyed the road so much even if it was straight that i'd never want to leave the road.

Never say Never Again {007 (or may be 001)}

[3DMonkey]

Thank you, z. I actually thought you would not respond

He has worked it so that we feel special to receive his attention

[kycahi]

I think the Higher Self gives to us a "human" feel to our universe. Our LOO says that the One is the super-super intelligent creator of everything, too magnificent to comprehend in its totality. Anyone who was brought up in a religion where "God" listens to our thoughts and prayers might feel a loss of that closeness to the Creator. The HS is absolutely the right substitute for that because not only is it close and intimate, it actually IS each of us. I can feel that intimacy when I need to, and I have no difficulty calling upon it for a little help.

I know that, just as with the old paradigm, my HS might not promptly answer a request but, even so, it took it in. If I don't perceive anything immediately different, I assume that HS wants me to experience the catalyst a little longer and try to derive my own solution. So that itself is a comforting response from HS.

IMO, if I meditate often enough (whatever that may mean to each of us) I will get a closer alignment with HS and, therefore with achieving balance.

[3DMonkey]

I think the Higher Self gives to us a "human" feel to our universe. Our LOO says that the One is the super-super intelligent creator of everything, too magnificent to comprehend in its totality. Anyone who was brought up in a religion where "God" listens to our thoughts and prayers might feel a loss of that closeness to the Creator. The HS is absolutely the right substitute for that because not only is it close and intimate, it actually IS each of us. I can feel that intimacy when I need to, and I have no difficulty calling upon it for a little help.

I know that, just as with the old paradigm, my HS might not promptly answer a request but, even so, it took it in. If I don't perceive anything immediately different, I assume that HS wants me to experience the catalyst a little longer and try to derive my own solution. So that itself is a comforting response from HS.

IMO, if I meditate often enough (whatever that may mean to each of us) I will get a closer alignment with HS and, therefore with achieving balance.

Yes. And trust that if our HS is away from the phone, we can leave a message. trust it

[Confused]

I think the Higher Self gives to us a "human" feel to our universe. Our LOO says that the One is the super-super intelligent creator of everything, too magnificent to comprehend in its totality. Anyone who was brought up in a religion where "God" listens to our thoughts and prayers might feel a loss of that closeness to the Creator. The HS is absolutely the right substitute for that because not only is it close and intimate, it actually IS each of us. I can feel that intimacy when I need to, and I have no difficulty calling upon it for a little help.

In other words, the HS is our personal and feeling window into what may seem to be an impersonal vista of the infinity and obdurateness of the ONE! Isn't it, kycahi?

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Yes. And trust that if our HS is away from the phone, we can leave a message. trust it

Reminds me of The Matrix where they were so dependent on the phones to snoop in and sweep out of the world, based from their mother-ship!

[Oceania]

i used to think God was listening, cuz i always felt watched, felt like a higher being, without associating that meaning to it, was watching and keeping company. so i've always believed in God. but i suppose that was my HS that i felt... then again this is semantic. God is everywhere and always recording.

[3DMonkey]

I used to make requests to "the devil" because I thought it would be a quicker route. I was a kid. I can't say it did or didn't work. Mostly it was about taking tests or what not. I was good at test taking, but I wouldn't say the devil made me do it.

[Confused]

I only hope I shared as much personal connection to god as you two consciously do, 3 & O.

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A question on the following quote --

13.16 Questioner: Could you tell me about this first density of planetary entities?

Ra: I am Ra. Each step recapitulates intelligent infinity in its discovery of awareness. In a planetary environment all begins in what you would call chaos, energy undirected and random in its infinity. Slowly, in your terms of understanding, there forms a focus of self-awareness. Thus the Logos moves. Light comes to form the darkness, according to the co-Creator’s patterns and vibratory rhythms, so constructing a certain type of experience. This begins with first density which is the density of consciousness, the mineral and water life upon the planet learning from fire and wind the awareness of being. This is the first density.

Can you guys share your thoughts on the shaded portion, please? How can light form darkness? It seems very counter-intuitive!

[zenmaster]

Can you guys share your thoughts on the shaded portion, please? How can light form darkness? It seems very counter-intuitive!

Light = consciousness or unity - the actualized creator and creation, darkness = unconsciousness or the potential creator subject to creation, mystery, partiality. The logos (consciousness) offers ways to approach unity via archetypal principles. The evolutionary movement is from dark to light. The unconscious ... potentiates all experience.

Here's an example: when you form a 'vacuum of expectation', you are creating a void or darkness.

[Oceania]

Monkey! you don't make deals with the devil silly!

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expectations are part of the fun.

[3DMonkey]

I only hope I shared as much personal connection to god as you two consciously do, 3 & O.

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A question on the following quote --

13.16 Questioner: Could you tell me about this first density of planetary entities?

Ra: I am Ra. Each step recapitulates intelligent infinity in its discovery of awareness. In a planetary environment all begins in what you would call chaos, energy undirected and random in its infinity. Slowly, in your terms of understanding, there forms a focus of self-awareness. Thus the Logos moves. Light comes to form the darkness, according to the co-Creator’s patterns and vibratory rhythms, so constructing a certain type of experience. This begins with first density which is the density of consciousness, the mineral and water life upon the planet learning from fire and wind the awareness of being. This is the first density.

Can you guys share your thoughts on the shaded portion, please? How can light form darkness? It seems very counter-intuitive!

Zenmaster explains things great.

I'm going to attempt it in a more abstract way.
A planetary environment is what, a series of 7 nested energy compilations?? Planetary entities are what, tiny droplets of self-awareness?? Each droplet is a co-Creator, no?

"Light comes".... that part we 'get', right? Each droplet has a "vibratory rhythm". A vibratory rhythm is... well, here is another quote to help us:

9.3
Ra: I am Ra. Visualize, if you will, the particular energy which, outward flowing and inward coagulating, formed the tiny realm of the creation governed by your Council of Saturn. Continue seeing the rhythm of this process. The living flow creates a rhythm which is as inevitable as one of your timepieces. Each of your planetary entities began the first cycle when the energy nexus was able in that environment to support such mind/body experiences. Thus, each of your planetary entities is on a different cyclical schedule as you might call it. The timing of these cycles is a measurement equal to a portion of intelligent energy.

This intelligent energy offers a type of clock. The cycles move as precisely as a clock strikes your hour. Thus, the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour.

During each density, intelligent infinity is repeated during the development stage of an entity, what I am calling a droplet.

Back to your question. The droplet has a rhythm which receives THE Light. In/out, the "darkness" is the yin/yang development that will envelop the EXPERIENCE of the droplet, entity. Thus, the Light, energy of creation, creates WITH the co-creator, and the co-creator (that's you) has a unique in/out pattern with which to form Experience, which comes with darkness, opposites, to Be. If it's easier, a ball forms the air that is inside of it, the ball being Light, the air- darkness.

Imagine one droplet, planetary entity, receiving Light, recapitulating Intelligent Infinity, shaping its experience, vibrating uniquely, ... CO-CREATING ALL THAT IT EXPERIENCES based on what it is alone.

Now imagine that one droplet as part of an ocean of droplets. The Light must appease the vibrations of them all in unity. That is awesome...

I am one droplet, and yet, all that I experience is composed of an ocean of droplets.

"Don't worry about it, we are all in this together"

[kycahi]

I think the Higher Self gives to us a "human" feel to our universe. Our LOO says that the One is the super-super intelligent creator of everything, too magnificent to comprehend in its totality. Anyone who was brought up in a religion where "God" listens to our thoughts and prayers might feel a loss of that closeness to the Creator. The HS is absolutely the right substitute for that because not only is it close and intimate, it actually IS each of us. I can feel that intimacy when I need to, and I have no difficulty calling upon it for a little help.

In other words, the HS is our personal and feeling window into what may seem to be an impersonal vista of the infinity and obdurateness of the ONE! Isn't it, kycahi?

Just so, Confused. I tend to "leave the HS out of it" unless I feel stuck with doing something or strongly depressed or unhappy. Then I'll think my email like, "HS, am I supposed to be this bad off now, or can you give me a nudge?"

Another person may want to have nearly a running dialogue with HS, or at least a monologue, to have that feeling of closeness with the divine. I would just warn against this latter approach lest it end up being an opening to an undesired STS entity or a weakening toward schizophrenia.

In any event, I think you will get nice results from your HS if you try hard first and don't ask for much. Then be grateful.

[Ankh]

Another person may want to have nearly a running dialogue with HS, or at least a monologue, to have that feeling of closeness with the divine. I would just warn against this latter approach lest it end up being an opening to an undesired STS entity or a weakening toward schizophrenia.

Would you please expand that thought?

[kycahi]

Another person may want to have nearly a running dialogue with HS, or at least a monologue, to have that feeling of closeness with the divine. I would just warn against this latter approach lest it end up being an opening to an undesired STS entity or a weakening toward schizophrenia.

Would you please expand that thought?

Okay, Ankh. If I think that my HS Guardian Angel will help me get through each day, I might get up in the morning and say, "Good Morning, Angel, what shall I do first?" Then, if the idea comes to have some toast and go running, I'll do that. When I come back from the jog, I may take a shower and go, "That was a great run, HS. Now what shall I do?" Then the voice might say, "Call your sister." So I'll call her and chat for awhile.

Next, the voice might say, "Write a fan letter to Brittney Spears and include a revealing photo to cheer her up." So I would sit down and write an eight-page treatment on creating a dance to celebrate the Summer Solstice, in one long paragraph with lots of capital letters and some weird drawings on the back of the first page.

Now it's lunchtime, and the voice says to eat raw pork and then call a radio station to explain how I know that aliens are infiltrating our microwave ovens under orders from the UN.

This is a silly example, especially with it all happening in the same day. An alternative might be that HS gives me excellent guidance for being in service to others, and I become known for my generosity. I now have an informal group of thoughtful volunteers and one day HS suggests that I invite a few of them to an inner circle of elite followers for the next level of service, and it has to be secret.

And so on. I'm not saying that this would always happen, but we should be ourselves and only draw upon our HS when we seem to have run out of ideas to get past some problem.

[Ankh]

*smiling* I understand what you mean =)

[Confused]

Something interesting

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[video=googlevideo]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5122859998068380459[/video]

Philosophy, Physics, Mathematics - “Dangerous Knowledge”

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Is reality just a mathematical equation?

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[drifting pages]

Thx confused i find time/dimensions/parallel realities and consciousness/observer fascinating.

[Confused]

Thx confused i find time/dimensions/parallel realities and consciousness/observer fascinating.

Thank you very much, DP. I have almost converted this thread I started into a dump of videos, mostly from the mainstream, that links Physics with Metaphysics.

[Confused]

Musica Mundana/musica mundana

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