[split] Knowing that you cannot know

[Patrick]

For the example of the vaccine thread. Once it is recognized that there are two diametrically opposed viewpoints, then there is nothing else to discuss in between these two groups.

i don't know patrick.....

would this apply to individuals as well? as in, if someone says "patrick I disagree with your viewpoint" and you say "well I disagree with yours", then there's nothing to discuss, just by virtue of the fact that you disagree (on the surface at least)? that feels...... awful cold. like a stalemate.

I guess it depends on what the intents of the interlocutors are. But in many cases, I would say yes. It's just the old "we agree to disagree" in the spirit of keeping things harmonious.

Maybe you see it as cold because you imagine the parties reaching this "stalemate" at the slightest disagreement ?

But that is not what I am alluding to. You reach that state when all is said basically.

Continuing to argue after that point falls into the trying to convince category. You are no longer sharing your point of view per se.

Imagine, for example, two persons trying to understand each others, but they are not even willing to ascribe the same meaning to words. Are they even talking to each others then?

The Creation is not forcing entities to agree with each others, otherwise STS would not even exist.

Instead the natural state of things seems to be that groupings of like minded people gather together to seek more effectively.

It seems to me that the most loving and harmonious attitude is to do as Ra suggested.

"...In the case of those with whom you, as entities and as a group, are not in resonance, you wish them love, light, peace, joy, and bid them well..."