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      Is there self-awareness in the octaves below
    Posted by: kanonathena - 04-16-2011, 08:01 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (39)

    There are infinite number of octaves below this one, I wonder if there is no self-awareness in any of them just like 1st and 2rd density of this octave?
    Does Ra or any other social memory complex go to the octave below (to help harvest or monitor or something) and know about this? If there is indeed no self-awareness in any of them, I guess there will be guardians that monitor the evolution process and they are all of this octave and above?

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      The Nature of Dual Activated Bodies
    Posted by: Bring4th_Austin - 04-13-2011, 10:00 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (111)

    The topic of dual activated bodies has come up a few times in recent discussions. I’ve been doing some heavy research and contemplation on the nature of dual-bodies lately, and I wanted to share my thoughts and findings, since some of it seems to go against a lot of preconceived notions.

    Let’s start with what Ra tells us about dual body individuals, which surprisingly isn’t that much:

    Ra Wrote:63.8
    The fourth-density entities which incarnate at this space/time are fourth-density in the view of experience but are incarnating in less dense vehicles due to desire to experience and aid in the birth of fourth-density upon this plane.

    You may note that fourth-density entities have a great abundance of compassion.
    It is stated later that these 4D entities incarnating into lesser dense bodies are in fact the dual body entities. We can conclude from this that they are 4D entities incarnating into a 3D experience to aid in transition.

    Ra Wrote:63.13
    These entities are those incarnating with what you may call a double body in activation. It will be noted that the entities birthing these fourth-density entities experience a great feeling of, shall we say, the connection and the use of spiritual energies during pregnancy. This is due to the necessity for manifesting the double body.

    This transitional body is one which will be, shall we say, able to appreciate fourth-density vibratory complexes as the instreaming increases without the accompanying disruption of the third-density body. If a third-density entity were, shall we say, electrically aware of fourth-density in full, the third-density electrical fields would fail due to incompatibility.
    From this we can draw a couple conclusions. First off, a dual body entity can be birthed from a non-dual body entity (obviously, they have to come from somewhere). We may also conclude that an advantage to having a dual-activated body is being able to handle the 4D vibrations and their implications, but Ra does not specify exactly what about 4D vibrations a dual body entity can handle better, simply that they can handle it better than a normal 3D incarnated entity. Not quoted is the fact that dual body entities die just like 3D entities, which has been discussed heavily on these forums.

    ’Ra’ Wrote:63.14
    We may respond to the heart of your question by noting that the purpose of such combined activation of mind/body/spirit complexes is that such entities, to some extent, conscientiously are aware of those fourth-density understandings which third-density is unable to remember due to the forgetting. Thus fourth-density experience may be begun with the added attraction to an entity oriented toward service-to-others of dwelling in a troubled third-density environment and offering its love and compassion.
    Here we learn that dual body entities are more aware of some 4D “understandings,” although Ra is not specific about what kind of understandings or knowledge come from dual body activation. We can’t assume anything specific here because Ra was very careful to use the qualifier, “to some extent,” meaning the veil is not completely removed; it is only removed enough to remember 4D understandings.

    ’Ra’ Wrote:63.15 Questioner: Would the purpose in transitioning to Earth prior to the complete changeover then be for the experience to be gained here before the harvesting process?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. These entities are not Wanderers in the sense that this planetary sphere is their fourth-density home planet. However, the experience of this service is earned only by those harvested third-density entities which have demonstrated a great deal of orientation towards service-to-others. It is a privilege to be allowed this early an incarnation as there is much experiential catalyst in service to other-selves at this harvesting.
    63.18 Questioner: I am assuming that the reason for this is, first, since the entities of harvestable third-density who very recently have been coming here are coming here late enough so that they will not affect the polarization through their teachings. They are not infringing upon the first distortion because they are children now and they won’t be old enough to really affect any of the polarization until the transition is well advanced. However, the Wanderers who have come here are older and have a greater ability to affect the polarization. They must do their affecting as a function of their ability to penetrate the forgetting process in order to be within the first distortion. Is this correct?
    Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.
    We learn here the main difference between Wanderers and dual body entities. Their reasons are different, Wanderers coming to help increase polarization in others while also helping the transition, while dual body individuals here to start building their 4D world and aid in the transition. As Don was able to conclude, dual body entities are NOT here to increase polarization (and thus harvest) like Wanderers are, however they can polarize themselves because of the conditions due to the transition. Also, dual body entities are those who polarized the most during their 3D experience. Ra tells us it is an honor to incarnate at this time in a dual body.

    Not much else was said about these dual body entities during the Ra contact. I was left with far more questions than answers before I started searching for Q’uo material discussing dual bodies. These are not in chronological order, but rather in the order I found the transcripts. Most if not all of my questions about dual body entities were answered.

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0507.aspx
    Q uo Wrote:(In response to a question about how dual activated individuals will experience the transition.)
    Third density is third density. And while you are in a third-density physical vehicle you will primarily be a third-density entity. The fourth-density activation, however, enables you, far more than those about you, to be tough. We think that is perhaps the simplest way to put that.
    The interpenetration of third density with fourth-density energy in the time/space sector of this development is bombarding the Earth with wave after wave of a denser kind of light that brings all entities’ worst fears to the surface and plays them out.
    It is a separating device, if you will, between wheat and chaff, in biblical terms. There are tares sown among the harvest of good that you have created in your life[time]. These waves of energy call for the truth from you, and, so, many of you are facing parts of yourself you never wanted to see and at which you don’t want to look.
    The fourth-density-activated entities or dual-activated beings are tougher at looking straight in the mirror of the self, seeing the weeds, and deciding on a form of weed control.
    This here removes a lot of the mystery and awe about dual body entities. We learn they are primarily 3D entities, in a 3D experience, with everything that comes with being 3D (veil included, albeit thinner as we learn later). This expands on what Ra said about dual body entities handling 4D vibrations better. Specifically, these individuals will be able to take advantage of the reflection mechanic much easier and with less stress than a normal 3D individual.

    Q uo Wrote:In terms of what body will be activated when: they are both activated now, but you are in a third-density physical vehicle. You are living on a third-density planet. You are here for a reason. Many, many others are here for the same reason.
    Q’uo reiterates the fact that essentially, dual body entities live from their 3D body. The 4D body is not a vehicle and won’t be for dual activated entities. Also, it’s important to note that the 4D body is not something that has to be consciously (or unconsciously) activated; it is automatically active.

    Q uo Wrote:Those with dual activated bodies have graduated and have come back. Just as the Elder Race, when it graduated, chose to return, so have you returned. You do not want to go on to the exciting and even thrilling prospect of fourth-density existence, with its greatly enhanced options for learning and for service, until you have done your utmost, not only to help others of the human tribe to move on into fourth density with you but also to restore and reconstitute the health of Gaia, [1]of planet Earth, in her living form.
    For many of you in dual activated bodies there is a feeling of great and passionate desire to connect with the Earth and to love and be a good steward to the Earth. For there is that within your consciousness as a person and in your consciousness as part of a race of beings that you have, in the past, been part of the destruction of a planet, a continent, a city, or family. And that destruction has caused the Earth to grieve, to mourn, and to become disoriented.
    By the time you leave this planet, the planet will know that it is loved. That is a very large factor in many of those who are dual activated and is their primary reason for being on the Earth at this time.
    This is interesting; it seems that most dual body entities are here to create the changes in society dealing with the harming of Gaia (pollution, etc). No doubt they will use the 4D vibrations to help spread ideas of stewardship of our planet, rather than rape and pillage.

    Q uo Wrote:Of course, because of the fact that you chose to come into third-density incarnation, you are always subject to the basic rules of this game. You need to polarize in this lifetime towards service to others to an extent that enables you once again to walk the steps of light and walk into a higher density.
    Otherwise, you shall simply move on with those still in third density at the end of this time to another third-density planet where you will continue to be of service and to gain in memory of who you are and why you are here, until such time as you once again get yourself on the right road, the road of your own deepest choosing, and then walk that walk, step by step, in great thanksgiving and joy, every day that you are privileged yet to be alive and breath the sweet air of [planet Earth].
    This is important. Again, these individuals are in a 3D incarnation, and will live as such. If for some reason a dual body entity cannot pierce the veil and polarize, they will continue on in 3D until they can do so.

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0707.aspx
    Q uo Wrote:(responding to a question on whether a particular child is a dual-activated entity)
    In the short run, such double-activated entities have a difficult time, from time to time, in the growing-up process, as this instrument would call the process of developing into a mature physical being. The sense-awareness matrix of such entities allow more sensory input and as this instrument would say, it gets noisy in there from time to time, more so than an entity who is activated only in the yellow-ray physical body.
    While this is inconvenient both for the child and the parents, there are advantages to being wired for both densities: the density that is now being experienced upon your planet and the density that is interpenetrating it. As this entity becomes a mature being, physically as well as emotionally, the inherent stability and toughness of the basic structure of the double-activated body will be of great help to this entity.
    As the interpenetrating energies of green ray buffet this planet more and more, the challenge to all entities is to be able to face the truth of themselves clearly and straightforwardly. Double-activated entities have a head start in being able to become completely honest with themselves. This creates an atmosphere in which they may be more calm and serene under conditions which may seem challenging.
    Seemingly, while childhood might be difficult for both child and parent, a dual body entity has an advantage once it hits maturity (apparently a little later than normal 3D entities). It is again emphasized that dual body entities have an advantage when it comes to the self-reflection that comes with 4D vibes.

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0907.aspx
    Q uo Wrote:The Indigo agenda generally has a large area of concern for the planet itself. This is due to the fact that these entities are natives of this planet, having just graduated from third-density Earth. They have graduated to fourth-density positive and have immediately chosen to return to the Earth sphere in a dual-activated third and fourth-density body. Their physical body is third density but they’re wired, shall we say, to be able to absorb fourth-density vibrations of love and understanding in a far less distorted way than those with only the third-density wiring or DNA.
    Here Q’uo informs that some of these dual body entities are graduates from Earth. When Don and Ra were discussing this, only 4D graduates from other planets were discussed. We can conclude from this that Harvest is happening, is not an instant process, and some already harvested made the choice to jump right back in. There are also some implications to be taken from the mention of DNA at the end, but I will not speculate.

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0523.aspx
    Q uo Wrote:For this reason there are no entities now being born into your Earth world that are equipped only with third-density wiring. Those who are moving into incarnation upon your planet at this time have the dual wiring of third density and fourth density. And so they have the roots of consciousness and all of the delivery systems of deep awareness coming into conscious awareness that are native to both densities. And therefore those younger entities among you are able to use the light in a far more efficient fashion. And yet, because of the increased clarity of fourth-density light and its increased ability to hold information, these same younger entities often express themselves as those who indeed do have difficulty in connecting with third-density’s common reality.
    Read again, “there are no entities now being born into your Earth world that are equipped only with third-density wiring.” ALL children born as of this session in May 2009 (and who knows how long before that) have dual bodies in activation, according to Q’uo. At the time of the Ra contact, only 35,000 individuals had dual bodies. This number is no doubt miniscule comparatively at this point. I know this pertains to several forum members!

    http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0818.aspx
    Q uo Wrote:When a person has a dual-activated body, certain things have changed for this entity. It may not be that these changes are consciously known by those who may be called Indigo Children, for a general term, but these changes are there. They include a thinner veiling, so that it is easier to remember preincarnative data, the ability to access psychic gifts largely because of the lighter veiling, the tendency to be impatient with third-density structures, especially those that seem to stand in their way, and some difficulty in cooperating with the strictures that make the least sense to them. Indeed, in some part, these have always been the characteristics of youth, but when there is a memory that is closer to the surface of a higher way and when the culture is mired in teachings that are directly counter to those sensings and half memories, it becomes fiendishly difficult for entities to make sense of their surroundings.
    Here we finally get some specifics about the thinner veil in dual body entities. It is easier for them to remember preincarnative data, but we still don’t know exactly what this means. Is this specific data, such as previous lifetimes, or is it simply the 4D understandings that come with being a 3D graduate, as Ra said? We also learn they have “psychic gifts,” such as the metal bending Don questioned Ra about, but other than that, no specifics.

    I hope that this sheds some light on the mystery and confusion around the nature of dual activated bodies. It seems to me that there could be a good chance many seekers, especially younger ones born after the Ra contact and increasing in number until now, could have dual bodies without even knowing it. However, if you ask yourself the right questions and review the information here, it is easy to determine whether this is a possibility for you or your children.

    I started journey with the question in my mind, am I a dual activated individual? After much research, heavy contemplation, and a few conversations with my mom about the nature of her pregnancy with me, I feel there is a good possibility that I am incarnate in a dual body. I’ll include all the personal details in a post in the Wanderer’s Stories forum sometime in the future.

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    Lightbulb Interesting. Green/blue is missing from negative system, but,
    Posted by: unity100 - 04-13-2011, 12:18 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (42)

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...c=1&ss=1#3

    Quote:47.3 Questioner: You gave the values of better than 50% service-to-others for fourth-density positive and better than 95% service-to-self for fourth-density negative social memory complexes. Do these two values correspond to the same rate, shall I say, of vibration?

    Ra: I am Ra. I perceive you have difficulty in expressing your query. We shall respond in an attempt to clarify your query.

    The vibratory rates are not to be understood as the same in positive and negative orientations. They are to be understood as having the power to accept and work with intelligent infinity to a certain degree or intensity. Due to the fact that the primary color, shall we say, or energy blue is missing from the negatively oriented system of power, the green/blue vibratory energies are not seen in the vibratory schedules or patterns of negative fourth and fifth rates of vibration.

    The positive on the other hand, shall we say, has the full spectrum of true color time/space vibratory patterns and thus contains a variant vibratory pattern or schedule. Each is capable of doing fourth-density work. This is the criterion for harvest.

    ra doesnt include 6th rate of vibration while they count the rates that have green/blue energies missing from their system ; only 4, and 5.

    does this imply that, green/blue may not be missing from 6th rate of vibration ?

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    Lightbulb It seems those of next octave, supervise manifestations of light, during our cycle
    Posted by: unity100 - 04-12-2011, 10:50 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (72)

    Quote:54.10 Questioner: Then I will assume that the Creator in its intelligent appraisal of the ways of knowing Itself, created the concept of the seven areas of knowing. Is this correct?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is partially incorrect. The Logos creates light. The nature of this light thus creates the nature of the catalytic and energetic levels of experience in the creation. Thus it is that the highest of all honor/duties, that given to those of the next octave, is the supervision of light in its manifestations during the experiential times, if you will, of your cycles.

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#10

    This seems to mean that those of next octave, supervise the light in manifestations in this octave.

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      Energy Centers balancing?
    Posted by: LetGo - 04-10-2011, 10:42 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (17)

    Hi
    looking for some help with balancing or further crystalizing of energy centers.
    can anyone offer some clarity into the way this is done?
    how to recognize Blockages?

    i think any explanation about the different centers in your own words would also be helpful.

    Thanks alot

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      Clues and Answers
    Posted by: 3DMonkey - 04-10-2011, 12:05 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (9)

    My rant on clues versus answers found in the Law of One:

    I find many clues that provide understanding to what this life is. Isn't that what brought me to find Ra? The search for what really is.

    We have theology, but it only breaches the subject. We have astronomy that reveals the vastness of existence. We have all things metaphysical that covers a wide variety of unexplainable possibilities, extraterrestrial contact being just one of them.

    These provide clues, not answers. I have read many times members remind us that the answers are in our selves.

    So what has Ra provided us? The answers? I think their purpose was only give us more clues to dig deeper.

    Governmental disclosure, conspiracies, densities, One, collective consciousnesses, far reaching purposes of life. Ra clearly tells us that everything they have said begins and ends in mystery. Ra says that UFO appearances are, for the most part, to create a reaching toward the mystery.

    The idea that Ra has given us knowledge is not the answer to what exists in reality. Ra came to provide mystery.

    We contemplate a world of disclosure. We contemplate a world of densities, spheres, energy ray classifications. Is any of it the answer? No, it is the mystery. What I am really trying to say is that Ra isn't giving us the "correct" or "definitive" answers to how existence truly is. Ra is just providing us a mysterious concept that shapes who we are now. With that, we don't have a firm grasp on what the future holds. What we have is a curiosity that provides for our current state of being.

    Full disclosure could be a huge counter intelligence manipulated conspiracy. Either way, it is what it is and will shape us as such. Ra's entire premise of achieving polarity may be an advanced ploy by higher intelligent communities to manipulate the culture of the people on this planet. Either way, the answers aren't the goal. The goal in mystery is to continue searching, never believing that we have the answers.

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      What exactly happened to Don Elkins?
    Posted by: Theaone - 04-07-2011, 02:34 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (113)

    I do apologize for this being quite a dark topic. But I feel it is an important one. I only finished reading the first book and I can't help but wonder what happened to the author.

    There is very little information that I was able to find online. Some sources claim that he committed suicide and no further explanations were given.

    If this is true, I would like to know what exactly happened? What caused him to do such a thing? What was the situation and circumstance? How was this discovered? etc... the details. I am very interested in knowing the details to such a shifting event.

    Does anyone have any info on this?

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      Mystery, Importance of
    Posted by: 3DMonkey - 04-07-2011, 09:32 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (40)

    Here is a list of Ra references to mystery and its importance for contemplation and discussion. I tried to shorten it without removing context.


    1.8 ...Therefore, we offer the question back to you to state that indeed it is the only activity worth doing: to learn/teach or teach/learn. There is nothing else which is of aid in demonstrating the original thought except your very being, and the distortions that come from the unexplained, inarticulate, or mystery-clad being are many. Thus, to attempt to discern and weave your way through as many group mind/body/spirit distortions as possible among your peoples in the course of your teaching is a very good effort to make.

    3.14 ...That is the Law of Confusion. You have called this the Law of Free Will. We wished to make an healing machine, or time/space ratio complex which was as efficacious as possible. However, we did not desire to allow the mystery to be penetrated by the peoples in such a way that we became worshipped as builders of a miraculous pyramid. Thus it appears to be made, not thought.

    7.12 ... you are correct in assuming that permission was granted at the time/space in which your first nuclear device was developed and used for Confederation members to minister to your peoples in such a way as to cause mystery to occur. This is what you mean by advertising and is correct. The mystery and unknown quality of the occurrences we are allowed to offer have the hoped-for intention of making your peoples aware of infinite possibility. When your peoples grasp infinity, then and only then, can the gateway be opened to the Law of One.

    13.13 ...Thus, each solar system has its own, shall we say, local coordinate system of illusory Natural Laws. It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.

    16.19 ... first, the cycle of awareness; second, the cycle of growth; third, the cycle of self-awareness; fourth, the cycle of love or understanding; fifth, the cycle of light or wisdom; sixth, the cycle of light/love, love/light or unity; seventh, the gateway cycle; eighth, the octave which moves into a mystery we do not plumb.

    17.2 ... Enlightenment is, of the moment, an opening to intelligent infinity. It can only be accomplished by the self, for the self. Another self cannot teach/learn enlightenment, but only teach/learn information, inspiration, or a sharing of love, of mystery, of the unknown that makes the other-self reach out and begin the seeking process that ends in a moment, but who can know when an entity will open the gate to the present?

    22.21 ... other entities of the Confederation appeared unto Atlanteans who had reached a level of philosophical understanding, shall we misuse this word, which was consonant with communication, to encourage and inspire studies in the mystery of unity.

    27.7 ... . The basic rhythms of intelligent infinity are totally without distortion of any kind. The rhythms are clothed in mystery, for they are being itself.

    28.1 ... This concept is incorrect as is any concept of the one intelligent infinity. This concept is correct in the context of one particular Logos, or Love, or focus of this Creator which has chosen Its, shall we say, natural laws and ways of expressing them mathematically and otherwise.

    The one undifferentiated intelligent infinity, unpolarized, full and whole, is the macrocosm of the mystery-clad being. We are messengers of the Law of One. Unity, at this approximation of understanding, cannot be specified by any physics but only become activated or potentiated intelligent infinity due to the catalyst of free will. This may be difficult to accept. However, the understandings we have to share begin and end in mystery.

    28.15 ... it has been impressed upon us by our own teachers that there is a mystery-clad unity of creation in which all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins. Thus we can only say we assume an infinite progression though we understand it to be cyclical in nature and, as we have said, clad in mystery.

    52.11 ... the universe, its mystery unbroken, is one. Always begin and end in the Creator, not in technique.

    78.32 ... consciousness is the great foundation, mystery, and revelation which makes this particular density possible.

    79.20 ...communication between the Matrix and the Potentiator of the Mind...We would perhaps rather term the condition as relatively more mystery-filled than relatively unavailable

    97.9 ... To put this into perspective we must gaze then at the stunning mystery of the One Infinite Creator. The archetypical mind does not resolve any paradoxes or bring all into unity. This is not the property of any source which is of the third-density. Therefore, may we ask the student to look up from inward working and behold the glory, the might, the majesty, the mystery, and the peace of oneness. Let no consideration of bird or beast, darkness or light, shape or shadow keep any which seeks from the central consideration of unity.

    18.1 ... It is not our intent in this particular project to create erroneous information but to express in the confining ambiance of your language system the feeling of the infinite mystery of the one creation in its infinite and intelligent unity.

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      Audio recordings from Law of One sessions?
    Posted by: Theaone - 04-07-2011, 12:08 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (7)

    Are the actual voice recordings from the channeling of Ra available to listen?

    I really want to listen to the original recordings of the sessions but I am unable to find them online.

    Did they ever make the audio recordings public?

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      How do you feel about Psychic Surgery & Uri Geller?
    Posted by: Theaone - 04-06-2011, 03:20 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (14)

    Hi, I just want to hear what people think and feel on the topic of psychic surgery and Uri Geller.

    I finished reading the first book and on the verge of re-reading it. I feel quite good about the information but there are 2 things I am not too sure of relating to the Law of One.

    1) Psychic surgery: All evidence I found seems fraudulent and I do not believe this is real. I have a bad feeling about this.

    2) Uri Geller: All evidence I found points to him being a magician and not a psychic. I have a really bad feeling when watching him perform. I do not believe he is a real psychic.

    As much as I resonate with the Law of One, their support for these 2 subjects are bothersome to me.

    How do you guys feel about this?

    Thanks

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