Quote:Secondly, each of the group may become aware of the will to a greater extent. We cannot instruct upon this but merely indicate, as we have previously, that it is a vital key to the evolution of the mind/body/spirit complex.

I was told recently to see what Ra had to say about the "magical self" (I think that's what it was called) and to try and achieve that. I can't seem to find something about it (maybe I'm searching incorrectly). Does anybody have anything they can offer to help me find info on this subject? Thanks!! Kristy xo

*I've posted this in Strictly Law of One because I feel it deals with a fundamental issue from the Law of One relating to Ra's cosmology. It just happens to be a science related topic also so mods may think it better suited for the Science and Technology section.*

Greetings fellow seekers. I have a cosmological quandary and I'm wondering if anyone's up for helping me lessen some of the distortion. I'm having a hard time reconciling the photon that Ra and Don discussed with the photon which is understood to a high degree by modern physics.

In the “Standard Model of Particle Physics” the photon is designated as the force carrying particle of the electromagnetic interaction, the quantum of electromagnetic radiation, and as such it makes up the visible light of everyday experience and all the other parts of the EM spectrum (radio, infrared, ultraviolet, x-rays, gamma rays). I'm of the understanding that the densities of awareness are a spectral representation of the original thought's vibrations and Ra posits that each density is formed of a quantum of light representing each density. From what I can tell, the photon of Ra's cosmology doesn't seem to be equivalent or even relate directly to that of the Standard Model.

What I'm trying to figure out is where does the phenomena that most people call a photon (EM radiation spectrum) fit into the cosmological scheme of the densities of awareness? I was originally thinking that the regular everyday EM photon we know, since it comes about from electrons oscillating between quantized energy levels, relates to the 1st density light. Electrons are considered a fundamental particle of matter, and I had always thought of 1st density as consisting mostly of the raw matter that makes up our planet. But then I started thinking about matter that isn't bound to a planetary environment (like space dust, solar winds, etc) and I had to reevaluate where 1st density actually begins. That topic deserves its own thread so I won't go into that any further here.

My main concern is the relationship between what we generally know as photons, the visible light and other higher and lower wavelengths that make up the EM spectrum, and the light quanta of awareness which make up the spectrum of densities. My tentative position at this point is that the the basic matter of 1st density which makes up the physical world is a kind of “limited” light, or as David Bohm said, “frozen light”. What I mean is that photons don't have a rest mass and are pure electromagnetic energy at constant velocity, whereas atomic particles have definite mass, are bound, but have electromagnetic properties; they seem to me to be a restriction on the high freedom of the photon. At this point there are atoms and molecules which make up the classical elements which Ra lists as being characteristic of 1st density. From here DNA develops from those interactions and gives rise to 2nd density, which after a damn long time gains reflective self-awareness in 3rd. We can see here the progression of “solid” entities through the experiences which each density has to offer, but the basic photon that is EM radiation isn't solid in any way. So where does that photon fit into the spectrum of densities which makes use of the universal Light substance which is the 3rd distortion of Intelligent Infinity? Is there a distinct difference between the EM radiation which is a fundamental expression of 1st density (and 2nd density as bioluminescence , and both 2nd and 3rd as infrared heat radiation) vs. the 3rd distortion of II that Ra calls Light and which makes up all of the densities?

I'm surprised that Don, given his physics background, never sought to clarify any of this, but perhaps it never crossed his mind. I have no problem seeing Light as the universal substance which Logos uses to express the original thought, I just have a problem fitting in what most humans think of as light into that picture. This is something that's been bugging me for a while so it would be cool to read what others have thought of this issue. Any ideas are welcome and appreciated.

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I don't think Ra ever defined what a spirit is in a mind/body/spirit complex. Is it consciousness itself? Where does the mind end and the spirit begin? What can it do? If someone is overwhelmed with joy or overwhelmed with depression is that a mental or spiritual experience?

Hello friends,

I saw something many months ago that got me thinking about the nature of warfare... please take a look.

(this is not a graphic depiction of violence)
http://www.wimp.com/germanwoods/

I'd love to hear your perspectives from a spiritual and Law of One point of view, from the positive polarity's view. The only sense I can make of it is that if you are completely honest with yourself and believe that the larger scale goals of the warfare are ultimately for a purpose of the greater good, (as was largely the case in WW2) then the means by which you get there are validated, even if they lead to circumstances such as depicted above.

I don't know if I could ever participate in a war, personally. But then again I have little doubt that I would take violent action if I were in such a circumstance defending my children. I suppose being a soldier is in much the same position excepting his cause is yellow ray in nature rather than orange. Both cases being tinted red of course.

Your thoughts?

L&L, ~E

Hi All!

There is a lively conversation about channeling going on in a forum (Veritas Radio's "The Manticore" Forum) to which I would like to add the insights from Book V about what the group learned about their 'alignments' in questioning and how those correlated to the quality/vibration of the answers received.

Basically I am looking for text or explanation fleshing out the concept that (my likely flawed paraphrasing):

'By consistently asking lower-density questions, you are necessarily requesting information from lower-density sources', and Ra would then have to respect your (probably unconscious) wish by withdrawing and ceding the space to the lower-formed entity for answering.'

This info was a revelation to me in understanding how/why initially 'good' channeling can 'go bad', or be 'infiltrated', so easily. I would love to share the insight, but am reluctant to do so without direct references.

Could any of you all flesh it out--or provide the reference links?

Many thanks, and peace in your hearts!
Kate

Imagine the darkness of time/space. imagine a weak light source (consciousness) in this darkness, illuminating some amount of space towards outside of its center. imagine another weak light source in the same fashion.

now, think that these two weak light sources come close to each other, combine their influence zones, and start interacting and doing things. the halo around them that they illuminate, become larger than the sum of the two, compared to their separated state. various thought forms and interactions fly in the combined influence area now.

now imagine, more weak light sources join these two. with each entity joining the combination, not only the halo gets bigger and bigger than the sum of entities, but also the amount and sharpness of the illumination (lighting) increases in the center of this construct, this furball now.

with this, we have a furball, a kind of society, a kind of soul group, which will create their own behaviors, interactions, thought forms, biases together in this furball.

you can get into a furball, and can get out of it.

im very much thinking that this is the way societies/groups in any density operates, including the time/space. actually, that would be happening in time/space in the first place.

what physical incarnation changes is, the souls are attached to slowed-down, red vibration material. this fixes them in place, and also imposes various restrictions and conditions upon them, depending on the illusion set that the logos of the red material created. in turn, the logos is just another light source, but very strong in concentration and illuminates a much bigger halo. other, weaker light sources can join in that halo.

how does this light source create red material, or, maybe raise its vibrations from the darkness of time/space, is another question. maybe the red material, is a result of the highness of the vibration of the light source.

now, image you are in time space, in darkness, and with a furball far away in front. you approach this, and the more you approach the bigger it becomes, and you start to become aware of feelings/emotions/thoughts in the halo, and when you approach close and combine your halo with the halo there, you join into the furball, and get immersed in it.

this is i think how it happens in time/space. how you get out of it, also should be the same, but im not sure.

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session...=1&ss=1#18

Quote:21.18 Questioner: Since it was not perceived it was not necessary to balance this. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. What is necessary to balance is opportunity. When there is ignorance, there is no opportunity. When there exists a potential, then each opportunity shall be balanced, this balancing caused by not only the positive and negative orientations of those offering aid but also the orientation of those requesting aid.

Hey everyone,

I've been directing my energies away from spiritual contemplation over the last month or so and enjoying more secular or mundane aspects of my life, namely my artistic development. (of course all things are spiritual, but I hope you take my meaning). Taking breaks like this are always unexpectedly beneficial as for me as it provides an opportunity to see things in a new light whence you return. Consciousness always evolves and so what I have learned in my time away from TLOO has literally transformed me in to a new person since before I left.

In the last few days I've been thinking about TLOO in general and about just why I hold it as a philosophy above other philosophies. I've also been thinking about the nature of the Ra contact and the small miracle it is that it happened at all. Also, as is a practice I've developed over the last few years, I like to briefly scrutinize my beliefs with an eye towards the skeptical. One thing we can learn from our human history is the danger of becoming irrational in our beliefs.

I've grown to respect Bring4th's collective opinions. I'd therefore like to open a dialog with you. In a as non-threatening a way as possible, I'd love to, for the moment, throw everything to the wind and see what it is that tugs at your heart strings. Why do you believe, what do you not believe?

I thought we could begin to explore these ideas with some text I've captured from the Adonai thread, by unity100:

Quote:consistency of a given system of information in itself, and the parallels/verifications that can be done to what we know, increase the reliability of the system of information.

consistency is very important - it should be possible to start from one end of the given system - a twineball of information if you wish - and to reach another end, without having dead ends. moreover, it should be possible to take relevant parts of the twineball and make conclusions, and other parts of the twineball verify and hold that conclusion, and that conclusion hold for different parts too.

however this is not enough - this would just be definition of a basic 'reality'. a reality can exist anywhere - it can even be a fantasy world created in the mind of an author.

this is where verifiability and parallels kick in - the more parallels and verifiable tangents the twineball of information has with any given, verifiable reality - say our current planet, or solar system, or existence - the more 'real' and usable it becomes, in the reality that it is tied to.

ra material fullfills this to an unparalleled extent, as far as anything channeled or spiritual, goes.

In 2.6, Ra says the following -

Quote:The proper alignment is the head pointed twenty degrees north-by-northeast. This is the direction from which the newer or New Age distortions of love/light, which are less distorted, are emanating, and this instrument will find comfort therein.