This is something that Carla discussed in the new blog talk radio program, but I'll comment here because it directly relates to the Ra books.

I never understood why Ra wanted to have the sessions include
- a chalice
- a Bible
- incense
- a candle

Isn't it possible to learn about, love and honor the One Creator without all "the accouterments?"

Carla's talk explained that this had nothing to do with Ra, and everything to do with her. These are symbols from her own religious tradition, in which she found comfort, wisdom, prayer and symbols of spiritual community. Ra was meeting her more than halfway, by encouraging her in her own religious faith - the way she was used to seeking the Creator.

If Carla had been Buddhist, Ra might have suggested a figure or picture of Buddha; if she had been Hindu, Ra might have suggested a lingam with flowers and coconut milk, plus a picture of the Hindu deities that Carla most closely identified with spiritual union. And so on for other religious backgrounds.

I may be really dense about this, but I never figured this out before the explanation in the radio program. As the symbols of Carla's faith are different than my own most meaningful symbols of faith, I've been scratching my head all this time trying to integrate what Ra might have meant with those symbols. I'm relieved to finally know... and it provides a new perspective on the thoughtfulness of Ra to realize this meaning.

Am I the only one who didn't figure this out already?

Grettings Fellow seekers! Im kind of confused about some questions
Please feel free to answer any of the following questions thank you !

1.-Im intrigued if Ra ever mentioned anything about ancient crystal skulls or an atlantean orb.
do any of you remember any page in the books were Ra mentioned crystal skulls or an atlantean crystal orb?

2.-Also how common is for a positive polarized wanderer to fall into negative actions?
Like rage ,too much sensuality, lies and more..?
I'm just asking because I've notest that i used to act very negatively before, i still do it but in a less % and im more aware of it but still do it.

3.-Also the harvest is already happening, but the 2012 date plays an important specific date or is it just a reference date for more shifting, is there anything fast and in big scale event like a sudden consciousness expansion going to happen 2012?

4.-Are there any beings/collectives higher than 6 density channeling messages or contacting humans on earth? i've read some interesting work of some authors that claim to be from higher densities than 6.

5.Have you ever had experiences with shadow like beings that sometimes make noise? are this guys from the Orion group? i've had some encounters in between sleeping and being awake. H ow to stop psychic attacks?

6.Approximately how many wanderers are incarnated today 10/12/10?
are there more going to come?

7.If wanderers from 6 density are here when their bodies die are they going to go to 6 density or are they going to stay with gaia on a 4th/5th density?

8. When Ra states 'serving to others" could it be serving in any way? or does Ra means in an spiritual mean? for example i know people that have strong will to help people but for many reasons they can't. What is going to happen with this people?
for example a person that is going thoughtout a tough economic time or parents that prioritize their energy working to pay the university of his son, is this a way of serving too? how much in percentage?

I apologize for any grammatical mistakes !

thank you so much!

a reflection of the all with love

Daniel

I started a new thread because the previous thread became totally long winded and started to miss the point.

There's the opposite end of the argument about no need to polarize... What about the STS people who have to polarize to above 95%? Obviously they are not village idiots who deliberately embark upon a massive personal pursuit to reach 95.1%.

There is misunderstanding what the works of a wander is. The brothers and sisters of sorrow come here to share the love and light of the Infinite Creator to fellow people here.

The wanders who come here are here have one purpose in mind: To impart the knowledge of love and light to bring the other person's polarity more than >= 50 so that person will eventually get harvested. That is victory for a wander.

Question from another point of view:
Suppose today you will die and there is an opportunity to get harvested (pre-veil or post-veil or whatever).

What advice would you offer to a fellow human being about polarity, balance and works such that he or she will be able to withstand the intense love and light there... and be able to graduate to 4th Density?

This is a very, very important question and seem to have two answers:

a) There is no need to polarize or do any work because it causes other chakras not be balanced or the words polarity make no sense, or some other issue.

b) There is a need to attain polarity by good works and continuously good works in order to graduate.


Take upon a situation that anytime in your life you can die and not have the ability to come back at all... Today you'll be posting on the forum and tomorrow you'll be dead because of an accident or some heath issue or Death takes you by surprise.

What kind of advice would you give to that person in regard to polarizing, works and what other advice would you give to that person?

Why would the Creator elect to create suffering for ITself? As an Infinite Creator, with Infinite power, might there not at least have been an "as efficient path" to offer ITself, if not a better one, other than torturing us as ITself through ITself?

And please, if the conversation is of interest, may we possibly leave out the whole business of the "Infinity Concept" as a ground rule, in that it has the ability to derail every single conversation ever posed on B4th, much less the universe, given that the concept reduces everything to nihilism as a pat answer manufactured for everything, wherein in what I propose it is humorously a restricted definition of infinity to begin with, where everything is possible, including restrictions, i.e. laws.

As a disclaimer offered in humor, I am not proposing that were I a Freudian Spirituo-Psychoanalyst that I would question if the Creator had a tendency towards masochist behavior, but it does seem that within the bubble of the illusion that it appears to will ITself to suffer as a learning tool.

Is suffering truly so necessary as catalyst? Might catalyst have been offered to ITself without the need of suffering as part of it's definition?

Inner balance, and what it means to the adept.

My first point I would like to share is that inner balance does not necessarily mean that all of your chakras are completely unblocked...

Quote:Book 3, session 54

Ra: I am Ra. While it is a primary priority to activate or unblock each energy center, it is also a primary priority at that point to begin to refine the balances between the energies so that each tone of the chord of total vibratory being-ness resonates in clarity, tune, and harmony with each other energy. This balancing, tuning, and harmonizing of the self is most central to the more advanced or adept mind/body/spirit complex. Each energy may be activated without the beauty that is possible through the disciplines and appreciations of personal energies or what you might call the deeper personality or soul identity.

Questioner: Let me make an analogy that I have just thought of. A seven-stringed musical instrument may be played by deflecting each string a full deflection and releasing it producing notes. instead of producing the notes this way the individual creative personality could deflect each string the proper amount in the proper sequence producing music. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. In the balanced individual the energies lie waiting for the hand of the Creator to pluck harmony.

Quote:Book 3, session 64

Questioner: In a previous session you mentioned the gateway of magic for the adept occurring in eighteen-day cycles. Could you expand on that information please?

Ra: I am Ra. The mind/body/spirit complex is born under a series of influences, both lunar, planetary, cosmic, and in some cases, karmic. The moment of the birthing into this illusion begins the cycles we have mentioned. The spiritual or adept’s cycle is an eighteen-day cycle and operates with the qualities of the sine wave. Thus there are a few excellent days on the positive side of the curve, that being the first nine days of the cycle—precisely the fourth, the fifth, and the sixth—when workings are most appropriately undertaken, given that the entity is still without total conscious control of its mind/body/spirit distortion/reality. The most interesting portion of this information, like that of each cycle, is the noting of the critical point wherein passing from the ninth to the tenth and from the eighteenth to the first days the adept will experience some difficulty especially when there is a transition occurring in another cycle at the same time. At the nadir of each cycle the adept will be at its least powerful but will not be open to difficulties in nearly the degree that it experiences at critical times.

Questioner: Then to find the cycles we would take the instant of birth and the emerging of the infant from the mother into this density and start the cycle at that instant and continue it through the life. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is mostly correct. It is not necessary to identify the instant of birthing. The diurnal cycle upon which this event occurs is satisfactory for all but the most fine workings.

Questioner: Am I correct in assuming that whatever magic the adept would perform at this time would be more successful or, shall we say, more to his design than that performed at less opportune times in the cycle?

Ra: I am Ra. This cycle is an helpful tool to the adept but as we said, as the adept becomes more balanced the workings designed will be dependent less and less upon these cycles of opportunity and more and more even in their efficacy.

Quote:Book 3, session 73

Questioner: It seems to me that the primary thing of importance for those on the service-to-others path is the development of an attitude which I can only describe as a vibration. This attitude would be developed through meditation, ritual, and the developing appreciation for the creation or Creator which results in a state of mind that can only be expressed by me as an increase in vibration or oneness with all. Could you expand and correct that statement?

Ra: I am Ra. We shall not correct this statement but shall expand upon it by suggesting that to those qualities you may add the living day by day and moment by moment, for the true adept lives more and more as it is.

Quote:Book 3, session 75

Questioner: I am sorry for my confusion. Sometimes, as you say, sound vibration complexes are not very adequate. The answer to this next question probably has to do with our distorted view of time, but as I see it, Wanderers in this density who come from the fifth-density or sixth-density should already be of a relatively high degree of adeptness and they must follow a slightly different path back to the adeptness that they once had in a higher density and get as close to it as they can in the third-density. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. Your query is less than perfectly focused. We shall address the subject in general. There are many Wanderers whom you may call adepts who do no conscious work in the present incarnation. It is a matter of attention. One may be a fine catcher of your game sphere, but if the eye is not turned as this sphere is tossed then perchance it will pass the entity by. If it turned its eyes upon the sphere, catching would be easy. In the case of Wanderers which seek to recapitulate the degree of adeptness which each had acquired previous to this life experience, we may note that even after the forgetting process has been penetrated there is still the yellow activated body which does not respond as does the adept which is of a green- or blue-ray activated body. Thusly, you may see the inevitability of frustrations and confusion due to the inherent difficulties of manipulating the finer forces of consciousness through the chemical apparatus of the yellow-ray activated body.

Quote:Book 3, session 75

Questioner: You made the statement in a previous session that the true adept lives more and more as it is. Will you explain and expand more upon that statement?

Ra: I am Ra. Each entity is the Creator. The entity, as it becomes more and more conscious of its self, gradually comes to the turning point at which it determines to seek either in service to others or in service to self. The seeker becomes the adept when it has balanced with minimal adequacy the energy centers red, orange, yellow, and blue with the addition of the green for the positive, thus moving into indigo work. The adept then begins to do less of the preliminary or outer work, having to do with function, and begins to effect the inner work which has to do with being. As the adept becomes a more and more consciously crystallized entity it gradually manifests more and more of that which it always has been since before time; that is, the one infinite Creator.

Ra said that third density is approximately (symbolized with the ~ character) between 75,000 and 76,000 years in length. For the sake of calculation, I will assume the middle ground of ~75,500 years in length. We know from more recent Q'uo channelings (and other sources) that the end of third density is Dec 21st 2012. So if we backtrack, we can then calculate the beginning date of third density, as well as the start/end dates of all the sub densities. (I am also ignoring leap years here... fyi. If someone wants to do the leg work on those calculations I can update these dates)

Here's how it breaks down

End of 2nd Density / Start of 3rd Density
75,500 yrs / 27,557,500 days -- Date was Dec 21st 73,488 BC

Start of 7th sub-3rd Density
10,785 yrs / 3,936,525 -- Date was Dec 21st 8,773 BC

Start of 7th sub-sub-3rd Density
1541 yrs / 562,465 -- Date was Dec 21st 471 AD

Start of 7th sub-sub-sub-3rd Density
220 yrs / 80,300 days -- Date was Dec 21st 1792 AD

Start of 7th sub-sub-sub-sub-3rd Density
31 yrs / 11,346 days -- Date was Dec 21st 1981 AD

Start of 7th sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-3rd Density
4.5 yrs / 1,642 days and 12 hours -- Date was June 21st 2007 AD at 12PM

Start of 7th sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-3rd Density
0.64 yrs / 237 days and 6 hours -- Date will be May 7th 2011 AD at 6PM

Start of 7th sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-3rd Density
0.09 yrs / 32 days and 20 hours -- Date will be June 9th 2011 AD at 2 PM

Start of 7th sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-3rd Density
0.013 yrs / 4 days and ~18 hours -- Date will be June 10th 2011 AD at 8 AM

Start of 7th sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-3rd Density
0.00187 yrs / ~16 hours -- Date will be June 11th 2011 AD at 12 AM

Start of 7th sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-3rd Density
.00267284 yrs / ~2 hours -- Date will be June 11th 2011 AD at 2 AM

...at this point you can keep dividing by seven and run in to an infinite number of sub densities...

End of Third Density / Beginning of 4th Density
Dec 21st 2012

Now, if my calculations are roughly correct, we should now be in the 5th sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-3rd Density. 1199 days since the start of sub-sub-sub-sub-sub 3rd Density, / 237.25 = 5.05374078, which = 5 sub-sub-sub-sub-sub 3rd densities plus 12 days and 18 hours. We should have entered this particular density about, approximately, two weeks ago.

My question is regarding the distortion of free will. Ive been thinking lately about the nature of influence and how it appears to me that our actions, thoughts, and desires are all stemming from where we find ourselves in a given moment along with the influence of how we perceived, lived, and experienced our previous moments. I dont see where WILL can be truly FREE of influence and it appears to me we are living the experiences of choice and of free will as as a distortion and not as truth of actually making choices. I am grateful that my influences have led me to a place of experiencing choosing loving, appreciating, balancing, etc etc but I dont see how one who is influenced in another direction can be expected to live the same choice or experience. Can we really lighten the planetary vibration beyond what is influenced to be? or are we simply living the current complexity of all that is, which, in this place and time, happens to be living the experience of lightening the planetary vibrations and balancing of the energy centers within what we call ourself. Id love to believe in Free will and often find myself deeply within the illusion but another part of me cannot shake this view that we, as infintie energy unified, were the creator; and are the experiencer. So my question may simply be, where does Will, Free of influence, originate from within the experiences of a self?

Ive come to a place where all is equal and all is beautiful and this material has helped greatly in my path of seeking. The differential and polarity of all that is, within my current understanding, is what directly supports and defines our experiences of desire, appreciation, fear, lack, and many other experiences that drive us to continue living this experience together. I sense that if we were truly Free in our Will then this would indicate an ending of the creation and not a continuation of it. There must always be greater than, and less than in my view for experience as we know it to be to continue. This indicates to me Free Will as an experience and not as an absolute truth of who we are and what we may accomplish.

I use this analogy. If a planet in its orbit becomes aware of its potential to express thought and realizes in any given moment it could stop in its orbit and reverse orbital path, but chooses through its understanding of free will to maintain its forward motion, it would in this instance have the experiences of contemplation, choice, and free will as associated experiences of complex forward motion through space and time. I sense that the seeing of other possibilities as we walk about our days, along with the choosing of what we only could have chosen based on personal and collective influence as being the true nature of the distortion of free will. Id love to hear what you have to offer to this idea. Namaste.

Diamond Light/Love.

Infinite Energy
Experiencing
All That Is
In Unity

Hi, I was rereading the Law of One material like I usually do and once again get stuck trying to analyse and understand this statement -

Quote:Questioner: What is everlasting rock?

Ra: I am Ra. If you can understand the concept of thought-forms you will realize that the thought-form is more regular in its distortion than the energy fields created by the materials in the rock which has been created through thought form from thought to finite energy and being-ness in your, shall we say, distorted reflection of the level of the thought-form.

Does anyone have a source for study, like a language conversion software that converts egyptian hieroglyphs or knowledge of the meanings themselves? Someone in our Law of One Study group on Fb has posted this question and Id love some insight if anyone has any regarding this topic. Namaste.

I read the LOO a couple of times and noticed there are words "service" and "disservice".

What does disservice mean in context of STO and STS?

For example,
- does doing a disservice to others means _____ ?
- does doing a disservice to self means _____ ?