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      "this information will, shall we say, make sense" - Interpretations
    Posted by: Bring4th_Austin - 02-17-2015, 06:27 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (49)

    (02-07-2015, 11:39 AM)βαθμιαίος Wrote:
    (02-07-2015, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I do see some alternate interpretations of that statement.

    At the risk of thread derailment, would you be willing to elaborate?


    In the thread about the language barrier in the Ra material, βαθμιαίος suggested that perhaps this passage helped explain my own confusion on why there seems to be such a stark contrast between people who are moved by Ra's words, and those who feel it is just a bunch of word salad:


    Quote:36.24 Questioner: I’ll just ask one little short one that you may not be able to answer before the final… The short one is, can you tell me what percentage of the Wanderers on Earth today have been successful in penetrating the memory block and becoming aware who they are, and then finally, is there anything that we can do to make the instrument more comfortable or improve the contact?

    Ra: I am Ra. We can approximate the percentage of those penetrating intelligently their status. This is between eight and one-half and nine and three-quarters percent. There is a larger percentile group of those who have a fairly well defined, shall we say, symptomology indicating to them that they are not of this, shall we say, “insanity.” This amounts to a bit over fifty percent of the remainder. Nearly one-third of the remainder are aware that something about them is different, so you see there are many gradations of awakening to the knowledge of being a Wanderer. We may add that it is to the middle and first of these groups that this information will, shall we say, make sense.

    A common interpretation of this statement is that only wanderers, particularly the first two groups Ra describes, will make sense of the Law of One material. I do think this is a possible interpretation of this statement, but I do see some other possible interpretations of this statement. 

    One big factor which causes me to see other possible explanations is Ra's use of the words "this information." The above interpretation relies on this to refer to the Law of One as a whole. While it's possible, I would not assume it to be true, since within the context of that session, Don and Ra were not discussing the material as a whole. I would think it more likely that Ra would refer to the information being presently discussed as "this information" rather than the entire contact. 

    This could mean that Ra was referring to the idea of wanderers and the forgetting process itself, meaning to say that the latter group would not grasp these concepts until they awaken to a deeper part of their true nature. Ra could also be referring to Don's befuddlement from the previous question, where he expressed difficulty in grasping the concepts being discussed within this particular session. This means that by "this information," Ra could be talking about what was confusing Don, which I would take to mean those concepts in particular, not the entire contact. 

    But suppose Ra was intending to mean the entirety of the material when they say "this information." I again would not assume that Ra intended to mean "it is only this group of people that will make sense of this material," but rather, they could mean "among wanderers, it is to these sub-groups that will make sense of this material." I don't think that exclusion of non-wanderers is implicit in their wording. Obviously, if a wanderer has not delved deep enough to be part of at least the second group, they may not be ready for information of this type. But what's to exclude non-wanderers from reaching a point where this material is accessible? I do think that wanderers will generally be more drawn to this type of information, but I do not think that 3rd density natives who are near harvest would not be able to grasp the material, and the same for dual-activated entities.

    I will admit that these alternative explanations are fed mainly by my own bias and belief that I am not a wanderer. Obviously, if I am correct in that belief, then Ra's statement would necessarily have to be interpreted to be less exclusive to these sub-groups of wanderers. But I obviously don't have any objective proof of whether or not I'm a wanderer, only intuition and meditative investigation on the matter. I do not ignore the possibility that I am in fact a wanderer and Ra was indeed intending to say that it is only these two groups of wanderers that will understand the Ra material. But I also feel like these are valid alternative interpretations.

    Are there any other interpretations you see? Do you see any faults in my alternative interpretations? I could be blinded by my bias.

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      Law of One and Jesus Christ.
    Posted by: Matt1 - 02-17-2015, 05:03 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (31)

    Who really was Jesus Christ?

    Having read over Ra's discussion on him, we understand that he was an entity of 4th density of the highest sub-octave before moving into 5th density. This would suggest that Jesus was a normal Human Being who evolved through densities just like we do. That is to say from 1st Density, second and 3rd density.

    Ra makes it clear that Jesus was a Wanderer, just like the majority of people here on this forum. What i wonder is why was Jesus if we take him to be a real entity with the same limitations as any of us in 3rd density able to heal and do things most people would think of as magic?

    Quote:17.19 Questioner: How did Jesus learn this during his incarnation?

    Ra: I am Ra. This entity learned the ability by a natural kind of remembering at a very young age. Unfortunately, this entity first discovered his ability to penetrate intelligent infinity by becoming the distortion you call “angry” at a playmate. This entity was touched by the entity known as Jesus to you and was fatally wounded.

    Thus the one known as Jesus became aware that there dwelt in him a terrible potential. This entity determined to discover how to use this energy for the good, not for the negative. This entity was extremely positively polarized and remembered more than most Wanderers do.
    The above quote suggests that Jesus was able to tap intelligent infinity, which i consider an enlighten state of consciousness at a young age. Now this normally doesn't happen, i am sure if any of us here had a similar catalyst it probably wouldn't have resulted in the same experience. The fact that he is suggested to have simply touched someone and caused fatal wounds shows a great deal of energy.

    This makes me think that Jesus was some how allowed a special mission, to incarnate in a way that was semi unveiled. This can be the only logically reason for his advanced abilities. Perhaps we could even go as far to say he as genetically more advanced and the work of ET interbreeding.

    However Jesus still had to go and learn, just as do.

    Quote:17.20 Questioner: How did this aggressive action against a playmate affect Jesus in his spiritual growth? Where did he go after his physical death?

    Ra: I am Ra. The entity you call Jesus was galvanized by this experience and began a lifetime of seeking and searching. This entity studied first day and night in its own religious constructs which you call Judaism and was learned enough to be a rabbi, as you call the teach/learners of this particular rhythm or distortion of understanding, at a very young age.

    At the age of approximately thirteen and one-half of your years, this entity left the dwelling place of its earthly family, as you would call it, and walked into many other places seeking further information. This went on sporadically until the entity was approximately twenty-five, at which time it returned to its family dwelling, and learned and practiced the art of its earthly father.

    When the entity had become able to integrate or synthesize all experiences, the entity began to speak to other-selves and teach/learn what it had felt during the preceding years to be of an worthwhile nature. The entity was absolved karmically of the destruction of an other-self when it was in its last portion of lifetime and spoke upon what you would call a cross saying, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma.

    The ability to become a Rabbi at the age of 13 is indeed outstanding and the fact he had reached enlightenment at the age of just 25 is something else. Considering most of us will never reach that level of realization at any age in physical incarnation.

    I theorize that this event was planned by the logos as a means to plant the seeds of a world teacher to help us move towards 4th density growth and that at least the major events of his experience had been well planned out, following an archetypal journey.

    What do you think?

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      Jyotish vs Astrology 76.9
    Posted by: michael430 - 02-13-2015, 10:12 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (10)

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      [Ra]: I am personally called ...
    Posted by: Plenum - 02-10-2015, 01:48 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (43)

    I have always wondered a bit about this passage:

    Quote:7.6 Questioner: About how many entities at present are calling from planet Earth for your services?

    Ra: I am called personally by three hundred fifty-two thousand [352,000].

    now, in 1981, I doubt there would have been 352 000 people who knew the name of Ra.  So how were they being called?

    I heard in an interpretation by Scott Mandelker, that this number would correspond to the number of adept level seekers, or those who are operating with an indigo level kundalini.  Adept level seekers are seeking at the level of unity, which corresponds to the type of seeking that Ra is doing, albeit, at a different density.

    that said, the rest of the answer from the above passage goes:

    Quote:The Confederation, in its entire spectrum of entity-complexes, is called by six hundred thirty-two millions [632,000,000] of your mind/body/spirit complexes. These numbers have been simplified.

    The population in 1981 was 4.5 billion souls, so the Confederation was being called by about 14.5% of the population.

    What could those numbers correspond to?  The number of heart-level seekers?  14.5% would be a reasonable number for the Harvest percentage of this planet as well.

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      Law of One Religion?
    Posted by: Monica - 02-09-2015, 09:15 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (329)

    Most of us have probably had encounters with religious fundamentalists who quote scripture to justify otherwise unacceptable actions. These people truly believe that they are doing the 'right' thing and that they're not supposed to ever question the bible (or other 'holy book'). A classic example is the born-again Christian adage that 'only Christians go to heaven' because the bible says so. Religious fanatics take it even further when they attempt to justify bigotry or violence, in the name of their religion.

    Do you think of the Law of One as a religion? Do you find yourself making decisions based on Law of One quotes, regardless of whether or not it makes sense, or feels like the right thing to do? Have you observed yourself taking action that maybe you wouldn't have done before, and then when you feel your conscience nagging you, do you tell yourself "It doesn't matter what I do...there is no right or wrong" ?

    Is it convenient to quit searching for ethical solutions to life's challenges, in favor of opening the Law of One books at random and taking the first quote you see as your answer, as a Christian might do with their bible?

    Are Carla, Don and Jim your gurus? Do you seek to emulate them?

    If you answered yes to any of these questions, do you do this with only the Law of One, or with the other LLResearch channeled works too, such as the Q'uo sessions? Do you believe that if Q'uo said it, it must be true? 

    Has the Law of One, or the body of channeled works from LLResearch, become your 'bible'?



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    Rainbow Earth as a living entity?
    Posted by: Namasteneko - 02-01-2015, 09:28 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (40)

    I understand that the Sun, or our sub-Logoi, is a living entity living through all of the densities. I'm guessing this also means that the Sun comes from an octave beyond our own, yes?

    What I am confused on is whether or not the Earth is considered living and in the sense that it is a different entity than the sun. I mean different in the sense of other-selves. I get that we are all One and that includes oneness with the Earth and our sun-Logoi so I'm not looking for rebuttal there.

    Is the Earth a mind/body/spirit complex? Was it ever? Will it ever be? Am I using incorrect terminology here?

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      Fondness for the name. What name?
    Posted by: Namasteneko - 02-01-2015, 07:44 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (8)

    I am stumped on this:

    Quote:60.30 Questioner: What civilization was it that helped Ra using the pyramid shape while Ra was in third density?

    Ra: I am Ra. Your people have a fondness for the naming. These entities have begun their travel back to the Creator and are no longer experiencing time.

    What is the name?

    And where did Ra get their own name?

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      Constructing my own copper tube pyramid - Questions
    Posted by: Namasteneko - 01-31-2015, 08:56 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (10)

    Greetings, everyone

    I was interested in constructing a copper tubing pyramid. I found handmade connectors constructed with 52-degree angles and I noticed that they also feature a "capstone" (copper plates). Is this capstone necessary?

    When reading the material, I find mention of the Queen's and King's Chamber positions but I am confused on where these actually are. Could someone enlighten me as to where these are? If I were to be sitting in a 7 or 8 foot x 7 or 8 foot base copper tubing pyramid, where would these be in it?

    I can't tell if using copper tubing would be appropriate for the construction of the pyramid. Ra seems to state that some material are better than others without mentioning what material and saying that rods and plastics would also be acceptable. What about leaving the sides open? Would they still be usable if it was just the copper tubes or should I cover them with something? If I did cover them, would I want to remove the capstone to allow light to come through or should the capstone be left on?

    Finally, I am hoping to use the pyramid shape as an aid to my meditation practice. That is, I want to meditate on my purpose here and what I must accomplish on how to better perform my desire in service to other-selves. Is there an optimal angle for the pyramid sides or size to accomplish this? I thought I read that different degrees and sizes produce different effects but, again, I may be confused. Any further enlightenment on this idea would be most helpful.

    Looking forward to hearing back from you all. Thank you.

    Edit: Also, one of the kits I saw includes a compass. I'm guessing this is to ensure proper alignment with the N and S poles. Is this the case? Would different alignments produce different effects? If so, what alignments produce what effects? I assume that one side of the pyramid is to be aligned to the north pole. How would I do this? Simply hold out my compass until I get a N-S reading and then place one side to match this reading?

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    Question Ra on construction of Pyramids...
    Posted by: K-PAX - 01-31-2015, 12:04 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (10)

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      inhabited planets
    Posted by: dreamliner - 01-19-2015, 08:56 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (36)

    There is some confusion about the percentages given in Law of One as regard to the inhabited planets.

    While session 71 talks about 10%;

    Quote:71.9 Questioner: Are the processes that we are talking about processes that occur on many planets in our Milky Way Galaxy, or do they occur on all planets, or what percentage?

    Ra: I am Ra. These processes occur upon all planets which have given birth to sub-Logoi such as yourselves. The percentage of inhabited planets is approximately 10%.

    session 16 mentions "one fifth", which is 20%.

    Quote:16.25 Questioner: How many inhabited planets are there in our galaxy?

    Ra: I am Ra. We are assuming that you intend all dimensions of consciousness or densities of awareness in this question. Approximately one-fifth of all planetary entities contain awareness of one or more densities. Some planetary spheres are hospitable only for certain densities. Your planetary sphere, for instance, is at this time hospitable to levels or densities one, two, three, and four.

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