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      "Maelstrom (of)/(from)," "to (avert)/(aid) the destruction."
    Posted by: Bring4th_Austin - 11-01-2013, 03:15 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (16)

    Thanks to a particular person's very hard work in making the relistened transcripts available and compatible side by side with older transcripts, certain exchanges in the Ra material become clearer or take on a different meaning than from the original printing, sometimes with the changing of the simplest words.

    One question which had minor changes that seem to change the meaning completely is 12.28. The original read:
    "The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom of which it had incarnated to avert the destruction."

    The meaning seems clear - the Wanderer incarnates into an environment which could be likened to a maelstrom, and in doing so, may get caught up in the current and lose themselves. Their intention in incarnating was to "avert the destruction," which upon closer examination seems vague and strange, but makes sense if you consider the intent of a Wanderer is to lighten the planetary vibration and increase harvest, and the opposite of these things happening being destruction.

    However, the relistened version says something different:
    "The challenge/danger of the Wanderer is that it will forget its mission, become karmically involved, and thus be swept into the maelstrom from which it had incarnated to aid the destruction."

    Okay...what does that mean? "Be swept into the maestrom from which it had incarnated"...incarnated from a maelstrom seems to imply that wherever they were before they incarnated, it was a maestrom, if they are incarnating from the maelstrom, not to. "To aid the destruction"...if we follow the same trail of logic as the first original transcript, we would take this to mean that the purpose for the Wanderer to incarnate is to help the destruction. However, I suppose it is possible to interpret this to mean that "aiding the destruction" is a cause/result of getting swept into the maelstrom, thus being the thing that creates a karmic involvement.

    But I'm still not very clear. Is there another interpretation anyone can think of? Am I failing at grammar? Or did Ra fail at grammar?

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      Paradoxes
    Posted by: AnthroHeart - 10-30-2013, 11:30 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (8)

    What are some apparent paradoxes that don't involve time travel? Ra said that in the end all paradoxes have a solution, or something along those lines. I'm curious to know some of these paradoxes.

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      Ape Man
    Posted by: Plenum - 10-30-2013, 11:04 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (18)

    Don asks a question here, and Ra is 'not sure' of the answer.


    Quote:90.12 Questioner: Was there a reason for choosing the forms that have evolved upon this planet and, if so, what was it?

    Ra: I am Ra. We are not entirely sure why our Logos and several neighboring Logoi of approximately the same space/time of flowering chose the bipedal, erect form of the second-density apes to invest.

    It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy.

    We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools.

    but I also, am 'not sure' by this answer here given in response to asking the Martian influx and what Yahweh did:

    Quote:14.3 Questioner: Then what was the second-density form— what did it look like— that became Earth-man in the third density? What did he look like in the second density?
    Ra: I am Ra. The difference between second- and third-density bodily forms would in many cases have been more like one to the other.

    In the case of your planetary sphere the process was interrupted by those who incarnated here from the planetary sphere you call Mars. They were adjusted by genetic changing and, therefore, there was some difference which was of a very noticeable variety rather than the gradual raising of the bipedal forms upon your second-density level to third-density level.

    This has nothing to do with the so-called placement of the soul. This has only to do with the circumstances of the influx of those from that culture.

    does this mean we are more aike (physically speaking) to the Martian third density form? or does it mean it was a 'sudden change' (overnight) rather than a progressive one?


    - -

    and here Ra speaks about pigmentation and skin color; corroborating modern scientific theories that darker skin is an adaptation to sunnier climes.

    Quote:21.13 Questioner: At the end of this first 25,000-year cycle, then, was there any physical change that occurred rapidly like that which occurs at a 75,000-year cycle or is this just an indexing time for a harvesting period?

    Ra: I am Ra. There was no change except that which according to intelligent energy, or what you may term physical evolution, suited physical complexes to their environment, this being of the color of the skin due to the area of the sphere upon which entities lived; the gradual growth of peoples due to improved intake of foodstuffs.

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      What is my archetypal mind
    Posted by: caycegal - 10-30-2013, 10:15 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (8)

    Is each of us born with a certain archetypal mind, which informs the way we approach everything?

    In myself I find:
    Priestess (or priest)
    Student or seeker or searcher
    Creator/paradigm breaker

    And of course a lot more.

    Are there certain birth limitations or at least proclivities?

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      A question concerning the negative polarity
    Posted by: We are God - 10-25-2013, 06:12 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (43)

    Hello, my friends. As the title suggests, I have a question regarding the negative polarity; or more accurately, those of the negative polarity.

    If these entities care so much about themselves, if they are so self-absorbed, why are they so self-destructive?

    A good example of this, I think, would be the planet in this solar system that was destroyed. These negatively-polarized entities, who care only of themselves, destroyed themselves. Why?

    I would very much like to hear those of Q'uo speak on this, though any response is appreciated. Much love. Heart

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      The Dismantling of the Approval/Disapproval Mechanism
    Posted by: Plenum - 10-24-2013, 11:46 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (44)

    one of the greatest advances in my own journey in the last 6 months has been the systematic and progressive dismantling of my Approval/Disapproval System. Well, what exactly do you mean by this plenum?

    in one of the passages on mental discipline, Ra talks about the completeness of the mind, and the polarity of this density. The dualism of this place means that almost anything that can be conceived here is dipolar, that is, it is charged either positively or negatively. This charge, in itself, is unbalancing; irrespective of the qualities involved.

    Ra gives the example of patience/impatience. Patience is normally regarded as a 'good quality', something to cultivate in oneself as a 'good trait' as opposed to impatience, which can lead to many destructive and disastrous self-created situations. This is in itself true; but the problem begins when we start elevating or 'approving' of the state of 'patience'; which in turn leads to a disapproval when we witness impatience in ourselves and others; ie this disapproval becomes something that is separative because we have elevated the former quality of patience to too high a level.

    that is not to say we do not have a relationship to patience or impatience ... which is best characterised as a preference or an understanding of that dual quality. It is not the patience/impatience understanding which is the issue; it is the approval/disapproval that becomes attached to that dipole.

    - -

    Perhaps Ra can lay it out much more succinctly than myself:

    it begins with 5.2:

    Ra Wrote:To begin to master the concept of mental discipline it is necessary to examine the self.

    The polarity of your dimension must be internalized.

    Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought that a being has, has in its turn an antithesis.

    --> The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge with its equal. <--

    The mind contains all things.

    Therefore, you must discover this completeness within yourself.

    WOW! find everything that you approve, and find its antitheses, and also find everything that you disapprove, and apply its antithesis. Do you know how big a place the mind is, and how many thoughts that one has thought in decades of life? how many things one has 'approved' and 'disapproved' over time? I can tell you, its a lot BigSmile

    having gone through this process myself, and seeing the defusing of almost all reactivity (well, there are always more and more subtle levels of reactivity that reveal themselves, its an endless meditative process essentially).

    - -

    but anyway, the reason why this passage came to mind today is that I was reading some Rudolf Steiner (epic mystic, and a man who left a wide and varied legacy, and his Steiner schools and pegagogy are a model of enlightened understanding towards children, and he essentially began the modern practice of permaculture), well, I was reading one of his books, Knowledge of the Higher Worlds, and he essentially speaks to this identical point.

    Let me back up a bit on passage 5.2.

    the whole reason for pursuing these mental disciplines is to open the self to intelligent infinity. But first, the mind must be quietened, the silence of the individual self (apart from the 'whole' self) must be attained.

    here is why the process is pursued:

    Ra Wrote:We begin with the mental learn/teachings necessary for contact with intelligent infinity.

    The prerequisite of mental work is the ability to retain silence of self at a steady state when required by the self.

    --> The mind must be opened like a door.

    The key is silence. <--

    now the following Steiner passages speak identically to this process:
    and the motives are the same:

    Steiner Wrote:Of very great importance for the development of the student is the way in which he listens to others when they speak. He must accustom himself to do this in such a way that, while listening, his inner self is absolutely silent. If someone expresses an opinion and another listens, assent or dissent will, generally speaking, stir in the inner self of the listener. Many people in such cases feel themselves impelled to an expression of their assent, or more especially, of their dissent. In the student, all such assent or dissent must be silenced.

    assent/dissent here equates to approval/disapproval.

    and further, one is placed in situations where one hears a lot of alternative, contrary, and confused viewpoints. The test of a silent mind (non-reactivity) is to be able to read/hear such viewpoints, and be left unmoved (only feel love for the speaker/writer, and not reactivity towards their viewpoint/opinion). The silent mind is the indicator of non-reactivity.

    Steiner Wrote:The student feels it his duty to listen, by way of practice, at certain times to the most contradictory views and, at the same time, bring entirely to silence all assent, and more especially, all adverse criticism. The point is that in so doing, not only all purely intellectual judgment be silenced, but also all feelings of displeasure, denial, or even assent.

    this is mind-boggling epic! Such a perfect paralleling.

    and of that, I do not approve or assent to lol.

    peace fellow seekers,

    plenum

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      All is well. Nothing is lost.
    Posted by: Kiron - 10-24-2013, 08:22 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (9)

    Quote:I am Ra. We leave you in appreciation of the circumstances of the great illusion in which you now choose to play the pipe and timbrel and move in rhythm. We are also players upon a stage. The stage changes. The acts ring down. The lights come up once again. And throughout the grand illusion and the following and the following there is the undergirding majesty of the One Infinite Creator. All is well. Nothing is lost. Go forth rejoicing in the love and the light, the peace and the power of the One Infinite Creator. I am Ra. Adonai.

    i am curious,why do they say so??

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      Bodymind
    Posted by: Sagittarius - 10-18-2013, 12:41 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (3)

    No body, No mind, bodymind.

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      battle of dark and light
    Posted by: Rolci - 10-17-2013, 09:02 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (11)

    Just a couple of quick questions to whoever believes they have a good grasp of the idea of battle between the dark and the light. The Law of One, Book I, Session 25 states that only 4th D planetary entities fight this battle, and it is depolarizing, in the positive entities' lack of acceptance of that which is given. So my question is, if 5th D positives do not engage in this battle, why would 4D negative not attack 5D positive. Or if they did then what would happen? 5D would not engage, so it would be enslaved and lose usefulness? Why doesn't this happen? Or how is it avoided? And if the battle b/w 4D neg and pos cancel each other out and they have to regroup, why even bother? Why don't they just stop? Can't take that much wisdom to see it's all pointless.
    The other thing is, the question is asked, "Am I correct in assuming that both the Confederation and the Orion group utilize only their fourth densities in this battle, and that the fifth and sixth densities of the Orion group do not engage in this?" The answer is that it is partially correct. "Fifth- and sixth-density entities positive would not take part in this battle. Fifth-density negative would not take part in this battle. Thus, the fourth density of both orientations join in this conflict." The only dif b/w the 2 statements was Ra's missing out 6D negatives. What's with that, and how is the questioner's assumption only partially correct?
    Thanks for any thoughts.

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      On Invocation
    Posted by: Fastidious Emanations - 10-13-2013, 12:19 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (9)

    Quote:73.10 Questioner: In invoking the alerted light then, it would seem to me that the visualization of the invocation would be dependent upon what the use was to be of the light. The use could be for healing, could be for communication, or it could be for the general awareness, you might say, of the creation and the Creator. Would you please speak on this process and my correctness in making this assumption?
    Ra: I am Ra. We shall offer some thoughts though it is doubtful that we may exhaust this subject. Each visualization, regardless of the point of the working, begins with some work within the indigo ray. As you may be aware, the ritual which you have begun is completely working within the indigo ray. This is well for it is the gateway. From this beginning light may be invoked for communication or for healing.

    You may note that in the ritual which we offered you to properly begin the Ra workings the first focus is upon the Creator. We would further note a point which is both subtile and of some interest. The upward spiraling light developed in its path by the will, and ultimately reaching an high place of mating with the inward fire of the One Creator, still is only preparation for the work upon the mind/body/spirit which may be done by the adept. There is some crystallization of the energy centers used during each working so that the magician becomes more and more that which it seeks.

    More importantly, the time/space mind/body/spirit analog, which is evoked as the magical personality, has its only opportunity to gain rapidly from the experience of the catalytic action available to the third-density space/time mind/body/spirit. Thus the adept is aiding the Creator greatly by offering great catalyst to a greater portion of the creation which is identified as the mind/body/spirit totality of an entity.

    So, when one evokes the magical personality, and at the end of the working, whatever it may be, does Ra suggest the "removal" of the personality/items associated with the evocation..? Or is it just more of a natural becoming "disconnected" again? I am confused if one may remain in contact with the higher self or if that would rather be a disturbance to It's progression.
    In short, can one go about daily 3D life with the indigo ray centre fully open so long as all the centres are crystaliz(ed/ing) and balanc(ed/ing)?
    Or would/could this have deleterious effects on either that individual or other-selves?
    Just realised it's probably impossible because when the space/time and time/space aspects of self become connected as the mind/body/spirit complex totality, there is like no time or space.
    ____________
    Question 2; Soul Groups, Oversoul, Spirit Guides, how do these correlate within connection to Higher Self?

    Gracias.

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