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      The Universe and Who Do I Pray To?
    Posted by: AnthroHeart - 01-05-2019, 09:58 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (9)

    Is there a God that is "below" the One Infinite Creator who created the Universe?

    Or did the One Infinite Creator create the Universe?

    Is the Universe the same as the Octave?

    Someone before said that the Octave contains many Universes.

    But I am not sure how this all works.

    When I had my schizophrenic experience, I heard Big Bangs being created all the time. One every few seconds, or every second.

    Who do I pray to? Who created me directly? Who can I give thanks to?

    I don't think it's the Christian God. He is too angry.

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      Is there a FAQ or Summary for LOO and Q'uo?
    Posted by: AnthroHeart - 01-01-2019, 10:46 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (1)

    Is there a FAQ for Law of One and for the Q'uo sessions?

    There is so much Q'uo material that it is hard to go through, and I don't feel the inclination to read that much.

    But I'd like to get the jist of what they say.

    Someone did a Super PDF I think of all the Q'uo sessions.

    A good summary of them and the practicals would be helpful.

    Thanks.

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      When Jesus was absolved
    Posted by: Cainite - 12-16-2018, 08:46 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (27)

    Quote:The entity was absolved karmically of the destruction of an other-self when it was in its last portion of lifetime and spoke upon what you would call a cross saying, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma.

    I don't understand.. why wasn't he absolved before that?
    Hadn't he forgiven himself yet?

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      Who might the other two SMCs that most wanderers on Earth incarnate from be?
    Posted by: EvolvingPhoenix - 12-13-2018, 10:16 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (47)

    45.3 ▶ Questioner: Can you tell me if a large percentage of the Wanderers here now are those of Ra?

    Ra: I am Ra. I can.

    Category: Wanderers

    45.4 ▶ Questioner: Are they?

    Ra: I am Ra. A significant portion of sixth-density Wanderers are those of our social memory complex. Another large portion consists of those who aided those in South America; another portion, those aiding Atlantis. All sixth density and all brother and sister groups due to the unified feeling that as we had been aided by shapes such as the pyramid, so we could aid your peoples.

    So my question is, given the cast of characters we have come to know--

    https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...ght=latwii

    Who might the other two SMC's be that aided Atlantis and South America that a majority of non-Ra wanderers belong to, be?

    In this thread, somebody says that the Pleideans aided South America:

    https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthre...ght=latwii

    Is this true? Someone in the list of "Non-Confederation Entities" thread suggested that the one who aided in South America may have been Quetzlcoatal.

    Does anybody have any idea who may have aided Atlantis?

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      buddhism and confederation: karma, samsara and reincarnation
    Posted by: flow - 12-09-2018, 02:35 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (15)

    disclaimer: i am respectful to both Confederation’s and buddhism's point of views so this is not to stir any controversy. i’d like to find parallels between what Confederation tells us and what Buddhism tells.


    according to buddhism we cicrle in an illusion called samsara. samsara consists of 6 realms: hells, hungry ghosts, animals, humans, asuras, gods. one reincarnates in those realms according to its karma. in particular, if we make bad, evil deeds we go to hell or hungry ghosts realms, good ones lead us to higher realms.

    i don’t understand what happens if we make bad, evil deeds form Confederation point of view? how do we redeem/balance negative karma? for example, what happens to those who make others suffer, like murderers or those who take pleasure in causing suffering to others?

    from buddhism point of view they reborn in hell or hungry ghosts realms where they reap the fruits of their negative actions, that is - they suffer themselves until their negative karma is exhausted.

    i don't understand how an entity which have done lots of negative action does balance/redeem their negative karma from Confederation point of view?

    how polarization come into play? i mean what happens with murderers and other beings who is not s-t-s or who just enjoy make people suffer, be it physical or mental abuse, sexual maniacs, torturers etc., in case they are not polarized enough to be 4th density negative harvestale?

    for example, it is said about Hitler that “the mind/body/spirit complex known as Adolf is at this time in an healing process in the middle astral planes of your spherical force field. this entity was greatly confused and, although aware of the circumstance of change in vibratory level associated with the cessation of the chemical body complex, nevertheless, needed a great deal of care." does that mean that entities with a lot of negative karma go to inner planes where they undergo “healing” process until they redeem their negative karma? what does “healing process in the middle astral planes of your spherical force field” refers to? is it parallel to buddhism’s hell realm?

    another question which arise from these examples is that form buddhism pov an entity can change its density, say you can go from human realm to any other realm according to the karma you have accumulated. according to Confederation, we only reincarnate in a current density untill necessary polarization finally achieved and we can be harvested into next density. that is if we accept that confederation density=buddisht realm.

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      harvest for wanderers?
    Posted by: flow - 12-09-2018, 07:07 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (21)

    namaste guys, i am sure this must have been answered already but i can't find the answer anywhere.

    the question is: what happens to a wanderer upon harvest? say a life of a wanderer ends and it was able to reach necessary service-to-others polarization, then what? it goes back to its home density and continues its path there seeing its earth assingment as one of many steps towards being closer to One Infinite Creator... OR ..it goes to 4th density positive?

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      What do the channeled materials have to say about emotional healing?
    Posted by: EvolvingPhoenix - 12-08-2018, 10:03 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (5)

    So I know the LOO material covers a lot about evolution through the densities, but not as much coverage is given to emotional healing. So I decided to create a thread where whatever HAS been said on the subject matter gets posted here and people can look at the material on this thread and make use of it towards their own healing.

    Please feel free to post any quotes or passages from the channeled material that pertain to emotional healing.

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      One of my favourite LOO quotes - 50.7
    Posted by: TheSeekersLighthouse - 12-08-2018, 06:27 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (1)

    I love this quote. I like it and I have shared it many times when explaining to people why we do not remember past lives. It puts in a nutshell, exactly why we are here, with a positive bias of course! I find this is one of my favorite quotes.

    Quote:50.7 ▶ Questioner: Thank you. Can you expand on the concept which is this: that it is necessary for an entity to, during incarnation in the physical as we call it, become polarized or interact properly with other entities and why this isn’t possible in between incarnations when he is aware of what he wants to do, but why must he come into an incarnation and lose memory, conscious memory of what he wants to do and then act in a way that he hopes to act? Could you expand on that please?

    Ra: I am Ra. Let us give the example of the man who sees all the poker hands. He then knows the game. It is but child’s play to gamble, for it is no risk. The other hands are known. The possibilities are known and the hand will be played correctly but with no interest.

    In time/space and in the true-color green density, the hands of all are open to the eye. The thoughts, the feelings, the troubles, all these may be seen. There is no deception and no desire for deception. Thus much may be accomplished in harmony but the mind/body/spirit gains little polarity from this interaction.

    Let us re-examine this metaphor and multiply it into the longest poker game you can imagine, a lifetime. The cards are love, dislike, limitation, unhappiness, pleasure, etc. They are dealt and re-dealt and re-dealt continuously. You may, during this incarnation begin — and we stress begin — to know your own cards. You may begin to find the love within you. You may begin to balance your pleasure, your limitations, etc. However, your only indication of other-selves’ cards is to look into the eyes.

    You cannot remember your hand, their hands, perhaps even the rules of this game. This game can only be won by those who lose their cards in the melting influence of love; can only be won by those who lay their pleasures, their limitations, their all upon the table face up and say inwardly: “All, all of you players, each other-self, whatever your hand, I love you.” This is the game: to know, to accept, to forgive, to balance, and to open the self in love. This cannot be done without the forgetting, for it would carry no weight in the life of the mind/body/spirit beingness totality.

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      If an entity doesn't harvest this lifetime, does it get another chance on Earth?
    Posted by: EvolvingPhoenix - 12-05-2018, 09:53 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (23)

    If an entity loses it's chance to make harvest in it's current lifetime here on Earth, does it miss harvest or is there still another chance to incarnate back on Earth again and still make harvest in it's next lifetime?

    I remember Q'uo saying we've got another few years before humanity reaches 4th density, and somebody saying a few by Q'uo's perspective could mean a few hundred. If that's the case, could one squeeze in another lifetime if they miss this one?

    Also, mom's saying there's a lot of souls waiting in line for their turn to incarnate on Earth and if one loses their chance in this lifetime, they'd have to get back in line would have missed their chance. IS that true?

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      Does commiting suicide make you non-harvestable?
    Posted by: EvolvingPhoenix - 12-05-2018, 06:57 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (16)

    Sorry guys, I haven't read the Law of One material fully.

    So I wouldn't know, but I was wondering if committing suicide makes an otherwise harvestable entity non-harvestable.

    Like For instance, Don Elkins.

    He committed a lot of good in his life and performed a lot of high service to others.

    But he also committed suicide.

    Does this mean he has to repeat 3rd density? OR does he get to go back to his Social Memory Complex now that he's dead?

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