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      Adepts and harvested entities contrasting vibrations of 4D
    Posted by: Infinite - 07-06-2017, 09:58 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (6)

    I was thinking about the vibrational difference between be harvested and harvest yourself. Based in this passage of LOO:

    Quote:17.34 Questioner: Well, then if an entity is harvested into fourth density with a grade, let’s say, of fifty-one percent for others, forty-nine percent for self, what level of the fourth density would he go into? I’m assuming there are different levels of the fourth density.

    Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Each enters the sub-density which vibrates in accordance with the entity’s understanding.

    I suppose that generally an adept will inhabit the highers sub-octaves of 4D while someone harvested will inhabit mid frequencies.

    What you think about this?

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      Incarnate programming question
    Posted by: Verum Occultum - 06-29-2017, 02:09 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (15)

    If an entity programs for itself adversity, for example for the reason that it has karma that needs to be dealt with, and there are other-selves involved in this programming, why should an other-self partake in this plan if that will create negative karma for them? How does this work?

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      Why does Ra say they are "an" humble messenger?
    Posted by: AnthroHeart - 06-28-2017, 03:24 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (9)

    I showed my friend the Law of One once, and he was immediately turned off of it because of their misuse of a/an when they said they are "an" humble messenger.

    Why couldn't Ra get "a" right?

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      The Yahweh contradiction
    Posted by: loostudent - 06-27-2017, 01:04 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (57)

    There are two opposing statements about Yahweh:

    "... the [Orion] group sent an entity of social memory complex to this planetary sphere ... This entity named by your peoples, Yahweh." (16.13-14)

    "Yahweh was of the Confederation but was mistaken in its attempts to aid." (18.23)

    Was Yahweh sent by Orion group or Confederation?

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      20° East of North: True-Color Green Vibration
    Posted by: Steppingfeet - 06-20-2017, 10:24 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (19)



    Ra described that the fourth-density energies (true-color green) are streaming into the planet from a direction that would be understood to Don Elkins as 20° east of magnetic north. (20° north-by-northeast.) Ra indicated that one could align oneself in meditation, or align a device such as a pyramid, to this 20° north-by-northeast bearing in order to be aided by the fourth-density instreamings.



    What puzzles me is this: Was the 20° east of magnetic north specific to Don's location in Louisville, KY? Meaning someone standing in Beijing would need to orient differently?


    OR, would the 20° north-by-northeast apply wherever one is standing on the Earth? (At least in the northern hemisphere. Considering the southern hemisphere adds a whole new layer of complexity.)


    Intuitively I feel that the 20° bearing should hold true wherever one is, but I haven't the slightest understanding of the physics that might explain that. Though Don does sasy in 59.24 (see below) that when the "planetary axes realign [they] will they realign 20°". And Ra confirms.


    Help needed!


    Quote:59.23 Questioner: Previously you stated that one of the base sides should be aligned with magnetic north. Which is better, to align with magnetic north or to align with 20° east of magnetic north?


    Ra: I am Ra. This is at your discretion. The proper alignment for you of this sphere at this time is magnetic north. However, in your query you asked specifically about a structure which has been used by specific entities whose energy vortices are more consonant with the, shall we say, true-color green orientation. This would be the 20° east of north.

    There are advantages to each orientation. The effect is stronger at magnetic north and can be felt more clearly. The energy, though weak, coming from the now-distant-but-soon-to-be-paramount direction is more helpful.

    The choice is yours. It is the choice between quantity and quality or wide-band and narrow-band aid in meditation.


    59.24 Questioner: When the planetary axes realign, will they realign 20° east of north to conform to the green vibration?

    Ra: I am Ra.There is every indication that this will occur. We cannot speak of certainties but are aware that the grosser or less dense materials will be pulled into conformation with the denser and lighter energies which give your Logos its proceedings through the realms of experience.


    -----More about the alignment of the pyramid: 58.8, 58.9

    -----Angle of the incense 20° north-by-northeast: 3.3

    -----Alignment of the instrument 20° north-by-northeast: 2.6

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      11.18 About Orion Crusaders missing 'I am Ra.'?
    Posted by: synned - 06-18-2017, 12:23 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (4)

    So someone pointed out to me that 11.18

    11.18 Questioner: Then we have crusaders from Orion coming to this planet for mind control purposes. How do they do this?

    Ra: As all, they follow the Law of One observing free will. Contact is made with those who call. Those then upon the planetary sphere act much as do you to disseminate the attitudes and philosophy of their particular understanding of the Law of One which is service to self. These become the elite. Through these, the attempt begins to create a condition whereby the remainder of the planetary entities are enslaved by their own free will.

    Is missing the I am Ra.

    Is this just an accident? It's very interesting the content of this particular Q/A is dealing with Orion mind control too. Is it possible this wasn't Ra?

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      Relations between indigo-ray and form-maker body.
    Posted by: Verum Occultum - 06-14-2017, 08:58 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (7)

    If a mind/body/spirit complex is significantly blocked in their indigo-ray, how can they activate the indigo-ray body immediately after death? Is there a relation of the energy centers and the energy bodies? Can the mind/body/spirit complex which is significantly blocked in their indigo-ray maintain the form-maker body as their vehicle of expression or must they immediately activate a body which vibrates more in consonance with their own vibrations?

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      Seven years of Law of One scholarship
    Posted by: morgan.thomas - 06-11-2017, 08:40 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (3)

    Hello friends,

    I am happy to be on this forum. I have been looking at your posts and appreciating what I am reading.

    For seven years I have been seeking to learn more of the Law of One. I attempt to offer what I have learned to this group, in the form of a fairly large and expanding body of writing in the style of scholarly research. I hope this is an appropriate use of this forum, to advertise such teach/learning instruments concerning the Law of One.

    I wish to share my story briefly, to contextualize the writings I'm offering.

    The Ra material raises many philosophical puzzles that my doubts led me to be interested in. How can it be that all is one, considering this may lead to the logically contradictory conclusion that every statement is true? How can one rationally believe in the Law of One, without the kind of verification normally expected from science? My desire to have some good answers to these questions led me to the University of Connecticut philosophy program. I spent a couple years there, and with the help of the One Infinite Creator, I learned a lot about logic, published some research on the mathematics of paradoxes, and left to greener pastures developing software in Colorado.

    I feel I have made some good progress towards the goal I set of reconciling the Law of One with logic and rationality. I have done it in a technically thorough way, all the details of which are available at my website neosocratic.net. I have begun the work of describing my findings from a variety of different perspectives. In short, what I claim to have is a system of meta-philosophy which reconciles the Law of One with logic and reason, and shows how logic and reason can be more securely founded on the Law of One than they can without (as far as I can tell).

    This work mainly breaks down into two texts, both works in progress.

    One text, Winning Arguments, is a system of meta-philosophy built out of the Law of One and in the precise, rigorous tradition of analytic philosophy. It shows ways to solve various logical paradoxes, including ones related to the Law of One. This text is incomplete, but the parts that are there are pretty well developed, and they lay out my system for dealing with paradoxes and how it relates to the Law of One.

    The other text, Magic, is an attempt to summarize some important points of the Ra material, extrapolated with my personal understandings, in the format of a system of magic. This text is much less far along.

    Since both texts are still in progress, and I am a fallible human, if you should happen to look at either one, any input you may have is appreciated and has the potential to help significantly. Reading all of this work would be no small task, and I can only speculate as to whether any of you reading this would benefit from reading my work. I am indeed curious what will result from this post, as I have no idea what to expect.

    With love and light!
    Morgan

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      Third density life origin
    Posted by: Balios - 06-08-2017, 04:38 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (26)

    There are some flaws or inconsistencies in the Ra material, often minor, but one of those that bothered me the most while I was reading the books, was when Ra said third density life began on Earth 75,000 years ago.

    The problem is that this contradicts what what was determined by generations of paleontologists, using radiocarbon dating and other well proven techniques to establish that modern human, called Homo sapiens, is at least 200,000 years old. And for a long time, most specialists having studied the DNA divergences of various hominoids fossils believed modern human may have appeared much more earlier, some even hypothesizing an origin around 500,000 years ago.

    Today, these paleontologists have been been proven correct, because they were recent Homo sapiens fossil discoveries in Morocco which are around 300,000 years old. And we are clearly dealing here with modern human, anatomically identical to today human, and with an ability to make tools, so clearly bearing all signs of third density consciousness. This is already in Wikipedia:

    Quote:In June 2017, Jean-Jacques Hublin and other scientists from the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology reported in Nature that fossils of five humans found at a site in Jebel Irhoud, Morocco, were between 300,000 and 350,000 years old when dated by hi-tech methods. The skulls are almost identical to those of modern humans. Tools found at this site together with those found at other sites throughout Africa indicate that Homo sapiens may have evolved across the whole continent. Hublin commented: "It is not the story of it happening in a rapid way in a 'Garden of Eden' somewhere in Africa. Our view is that it was a more gradual development and it involved the whole continent."

    The article on the Nature website: http://www.nature.com/news/oldest-homo-s...ry-1.22114

    Also, the currently earliest human burial sites, found in today Israel, are between 80,000 and 120,000 years old (ok, that's not very precise), and the earliest artistic representations (paintings on rocks in Africa) are from around 100,000 years ago.

    I know Ra had a lot of difficulties with our "numbering system" as he called it, but the 75,000 years claim for the beginning of third density cycle on Earth is relatively frequent in the material, so if it was a mistake, it would have been corrected at some point.

    So, there is clearly a problem there. Might be a good idea to ask Q'uo about this.

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      Does the negative path use intuition?
    Posted by: Henosis - 06-07-2017, 01:43 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (12)

    Does the negative path use intuition in similar fashion to the positive path?

    Can you use intuition without compassion?

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