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      The most mysterious phrase of the Ra contact
    Posted by: cheikspear - 07-02-2021, 09:14 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (55)

    Hi everybody,

    In 5.2, Ra expessed this sentence: "The simplest example of this is the understanding that each biological male is female; each biological female is male."

    Could someone explain me the deep meaning of this sentence?

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      What body shape do we have in higher dimensions?
    Posted by: ANGEL - 06-29-2021, 08:23 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (19)

    Do any of you know what our bodies look like in the higher dimensions? Also, what about emotions? Do we lose our emotion as we progress? I remember seeing communication with one person who said they were part of the nine who sat on the counsel of Saturn and he did not remember emotion at all. That sounds reasonable if you are progressing on the negative path but I can't imagine those on the counsel would be negative path entities. Anyone have any specifics on this please??

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      Grateful/Law of One
    Posted by: pat19989 - 06-28-2021, 12:22 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (13)

    Hello everyone.

    I spent some time away from the Ra material, mainly because the rather complex archetypical mind discussion in book iv can get rather cumbersome for me if I try to absorb it too quickly. (if at all, I am finding book iv by far the hardest to grasp conceptually). Anyways, I returned to it yesterday, and my oh my it felt like my whole body rejoiced to be hearing from Ra again. Chills, verge of tears. No other spiritual work has affected me like the Law of One. Reflecting on these past few months now that I've finished the main books, I just wanted to express my thanks to Don, Carla, and Jim for this gift to humanity.

    I feel so grateful that I stumbled upon these works and this community, for the work itself and these forums make me feel very much at home. I still have a few considerations that have been itching at me while I'm reading though and I'd like to explore them.

    The concept of 'service to others' makes some sense to me, but also my logical brain struggles with the boundaries of service.

    Is service to 2nd density life just as meaningful as 3rd density? How do small moments of anger and lashing out effect polarity? How can I, as an introverted person who does not have a whole lot of human interaction, offer myself in a greater capacity to others? Are those with a lot of friends inherently more service to others oriented? When I indulge in cravings that I know deep down are not good for me(nicotine, sugar, caffeine, etc.) is this service to self/depolarizing?

    Also, I have loved ones around me that suffer from depression, lethargy, and addiction. I feel so strongly that an understanding of some spiritual topics addressed in Law of One, as well as many other spiritual texts could help them immensely. I've found that suggesting these works to them is usually met with initial interest, but no follow through. It is not my intent to force any material on anyone. But it begins to affect me deeply when those closest to me are so blinded by negativity, anger, and depression.

    How do I be of service to these people?
    Am i supposed to love them and be around them as much as they wish? even if it brings me down?

    When I'm feeling strong I can resist the negativity within myself but sometimes I can't help but become angry or frustrated with them.

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      Does Space/Time or Time/Space continuum = Timeline?
    Posted by: Ralib1 - 06-26-2021, 09:39 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (5)

    What I’m trying to say is when Ra uses the word continuum do they mean

    “Space’ at a particular time or “Time” at a particular space, but because time & space are non-linear and infinite they use the word continuum?

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      Is it possible to get stuck in a 3rd-4th density loop?
    Posted by: Ralib1 - 06-25-2021, 02:59 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (5)

    let’s say a 4th density entity (because of their deep compassion) chooses to become a wanderer and incarnate on a disharmonious 3rd density planet. They then are able to “awaken” and remember their mission. They are able to be harvested and make it back to 4th density. Then this same entity after making it to 4th chooses to come back again because of their compassion, thus creating a loop of never getting past 4th density because they have too much love and compassion for lower densities.

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      Sekhmet
    Posted by: David29 - 06-24-2021, 06:58 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (3)

    With the connection of Ra to ancient Egypt, I wonder if Sekhmet is mentioned anywhere in the Law of One series. If she is not, and someone who knows of an L/L Research forum where she is discussed at all, could you please identify that forum? (I do not see a search function for the entire L/L Research or bring4th site.)

    To clarify a little: my interest in Sekhmet is directed outside Egyptology--its imagery, mythology, hierarchies, history, and so on, for, indeed, she existed way before there was an Egypt and Egyptology. And since I trust in the Ra complex and the Law of One information delivered through the noble trio, I wonder of readers might know . . . .

    Outside of L/L Research-related sources, I am inclined to be skeptical, so I am not looking at Youtube or for any present day groups devoted to Sekhmet (although I wish them the best).

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    Star "all are harvested regardless of their progress"
    Posted by: meadow-foreigner - 06-14-2021, 07:05 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (16)

    Quote:6.15 Questioner: What is the length, in our years, of one of these cycles currently?

    Ra: One major cycle is approximately twenty-five thousand [25,000] of your years. There are three cycles of this nature during which those who have progressed may be harvested. At the end of three major cycles, that is, approximately between seventy-five and seventy-six thousand [75–76,000] of your years, all are harvested regardless of their progress, for during that time the planet itself has moved through the useful part of that dimension and begins to cease being useful for the lower levels of vibration within that density.

    Quote:22.3 Questioner: Thank you. I’ll ask a couple of questions to clear up the end of the second cycle— the second major cycle. And then we’ll go on to the third and last of the major cycles.
    Can you tell me the life span, the average life span, at the end of the second major cycle?

    Ra: I am Ra. By the end of the second major cycle the life span was as you know it, with certain variations among geographically isolated peoples more in harmony with intelligent energy and less bellicose.

    So, we're in the last of the major cycles, which, according to the quote above, would mean that we will all be harvested, regardless of our progress... or will we?

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      Session 42.6 question
    Posted by: ada - 06-14-2021, 12:48 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (14)

    Quote:42.6
    QUESTIONER: In the last session you made the statement that “We, that is Ra, spent much time/space in the fifth density balancing the intense compassion gained in fourth density.” Could you expand on this concept with respect to what we were just discussing?

    RA: I am Ra. The fourth density, as we have said, abounds in compassion. This compassion is folly when seen through the eyes of wisdom. It is the salvation of third density but creates a mismatch in the ultimate balance of the entity.

    Thus we, as a social memory complex of fourth density, had the tendency towards compassion even to martyrdom in aid of other-selves. When the fifth-density harvest was achieved we found that in this vibratory level flaws could be seen in the efficacy of such unrelieved compassion. We spent much time/space in contemplation of those ways of the Creator which imbue love with wisdom.

    I'm trying to understand what Ra could have meant in this bolded part.
    Quote:It is the salvation of third density but creates a mismatch in the ultimate balance of the entity.

    Any thoughts ? Huh

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      Psychic Abilities and the Gateway to Intelligent Infinity
    Posted by: Infinite - 06-09-2021, 10:32 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (4)

    In 6.1 Ra said:

    Quote:The healing ability, like all other, what this instrument would call paranormal abilities, is effected by the opening of a pathway, or shuttle, into intelligent infinity. There are many upon your plane who have a random hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is commonplace; this is as it should be.

    They imply that the origin of all psychic abilities is the gateway to intelligent infinity. Soon after, they talk about those who have this gateway in a random way, like those who use psychedelics. I was wondering if those we call mediums would also fit this case. Even though they aren't of the indigo ray vibration, that is, adepts, they are able to use certain powers of intelligent energy and intelligent infinity. What do you think about this?

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      Why if the choice is Love does Ra say the choice is service?
    Posted by: ANGEL - 06-09-2021, 05:42 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (38)

    Hello All,
    I have known the Ra material now for well over a decade. It quite literally helped save my life as I was so overflowing with empathy that I could not function well in a world so full of horrors, and cruelty. I am one of those who praised God for allowing me to find it, as it has opened my eyes and healed my heart and indeed brought me spiritual wisdom and depth.

    However, lately I have begun to question key points that are deeply concerning to me. The first and foremost is that Ra insists that the choice of paths by which to take and indeed must be made to "graduate" from this 3rd dimension, is the choice to serve others or serve the self. To serve is a negative concept in most cases. To subjugate or to be under the rule of another self. I do not believe that this word was chosen without thought, because without a doubt all of this material and each word is chosen for its precise essence, in order to lessen any chance we might misunderstand the concepts provided.

    I will say that to serve others by being available to fill a need, aid in anyway or give an ear or lend a shoulder are always natural for those who love, but this choice of service is not accurate and thereby something is amiss.

    The more accurate choice is more accurately stated as to accept Love or deny it. The choice is not in service it is in whether we accept the power of the creators love or destroy it as a weakness. Its a choice of dominance and power over others or a choice to love all, including the self.
    The negative polarity do not love, not even the self.

    I think about the ancient flood myths of the Bible and the older Summerian, and how they are so very similar accept in the smallest but most significant parts. Control or love?
    Remember, the counterfeit is sometimes so good, so close to perfect that it requires an expert to see its small but significant imperfection and renders it worthless.

    This material has absolutely been a blessing this is truth but I must consider if perhaps I have also been led astray in order to cause me to actually choose service and subjugation in my next life.

    We do not have to be energy or kinetic. Energy is literally wrapped in the fields of potentials that surround us everywhere. They are flowing up into us from earth and down into us from our creator and all of creation in every moment.

    To be fully integrated in mind, body and soul means to integrate all three data sets of information, into our the whole of ourselves. The body and its emotions, which all come from love, must be accepted and felt in the body, along with the mind and spirit if we are to be whole. We can not know self without love. We must learn to become love, to accept all its forms and only then are we able to make wiser choices. We cannot make sound decisions if we are not utilizing all of the data available to us. To deny Gods creative love is to deny the self, ungodly and dare I say not the smartest of choices. However, its not for me to judge, only to balance the 3 inputs flowing in and around me. Perhaps the best I can do for my negative selves is point out the fear and send love and prayers to them. Also forgive myself for the times that I taught them that love hurts and cannot be trusted. Love did not let them down, we did...I did. Then again their perception is of love is way off the mark too. GOD...Remind them one last time what love feels like before they have to choose in their next life. This I insist is granted.

    I ask you all to consider my thoughts and perhaps I have missed something vital in my concepts here that you might help me see more clearly

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