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      Choosing polarities, survey/discussion.
    Posted by: J.W. - 08-06-2021, 05:21 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (25)

    Greeting souls,

    Recently, there has been a few interesting development on the forums. It piqued my interest to understand further of souls that consciously chooses/switches their polarity.

    In one post, a member openly admitted that they switched from STS to STO because the left-hand path is just simply "exhausting/tiring" to them.

    This was interesting to see.

    Therefore, a survey has been formulated to further the understanding of this experience/choices.

    Please understand that we do not judge here, the purpose to further one's spiritual development is the focus. To become more "aware" of oneself.
    Your participation serves other-selves in their journey to understanding/seeking the "truth."
     
    A great opportunity for us to Learn/Teach and Teach/Learn. I sincerely hope that we can discuss this topic without hostility. Much Thanks.  Heart

    Correction: Patrick raised some important points that prompted me to provide a better explanation with the questionnaire.

    When I said "consciously" choosing, it means the "mind" your "ego" per se. Imagine someone telling you that water is healthier than soda, and you naturally would choose the healthier option.

    This is not taking "preincarnative planning" into consideration, or your "higher self" etc. Etc.

    This survey is directly pointed towards the core of your humanity. Which is the first layer of your own catalyst.

    Be free, there are no "saints" or "devil" here. Only human nature. Smile

    Questions:

    1. When you consciously chooses your polarity, did you feel that you would "get along/thrive" better with other-selves in that environment? how so?

    2. Have you ever consciously switches between the two polarities? why?

    3. With your current incarnated experience, how much of it influenced your "choice?" Imagine if you would have incarnated on a very positive or negative planet, do you feel that it would have affected your decision making?
     


    Thank you, I hope this will be a great learning experience for all.

    with l/l

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      Qestion for LOO scholars....
    Posted by: Eddie - 07-28-2021, 07:50 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (11)

    This is from session 22, in a discussion about those who were harvestable after the second cycle, but chose to stay on earth to help others:


    Quote:22.14 Questioner: Are all of these entities still with us in this cycle?
    Ra: I am Ra. The entities repeating the third-density major cycle have, in some few cases, been able to leave. These entities have chosen to join their brothers and sisters, as you would call these entities.


    Quote:22.15 Questioner: Were any of these entities names that we know from our historical past? That have appeared as incarnated beings we find in our history?
    Ra: I am Ra. The one known as sound vibration complex, Saint Augustine, is of such a nature. The one known as Saint Teresa of such a nature. The one known as Saint Francis of Assisi of such nature. These entities, being of monastic background, as you would call it, found incarnation in the same type of ambiance appropriate for further learning.


    Is the Teresa referred to here, Teresa of Avila, or Mother Teresa of Calcutta?  The latter seems more appropriate, but she was not canonized until 2016.  I can't tell from context.  Tereasa of Avila was probably more "monastic" than Mother Teresa.

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      Space/Time and Time /Space
    Posted by: ELP - 07-27-2021, 02:50 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (20)

    Hello everyone!
    Does anyone here have experience with time/space hidden
    in space/time?

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      Upward Spiral Energy
    Posted by: J.W. - 07-25-2021, 08:01 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - No Replies

    Hello,

    This is to help visualize the upward spiral energy. {movement, but stillness.. as one.}

    Meditation before pondering at the image helps unlocking some answers you may have.

    with l/l

    Upward Spiral

    Tongue yes, if you are thinking of getting a "trim" you're not alone.. BigSmile

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      Human Relationships and the Concept of Judgment
    Posted by: Infinite - 07-24-2021, 09:21 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (34)

    I have been thinking about human relationships and the concept of judgment. We know that we are all one and as Ra said, unity is naturally formed by a compassion and therefore nothing should be excluded or abhorred. However, Ra also said that so-and-so was distorted, etc. There is also the question of homosexuality, which they said it's a distortion (I don't want to revive this controversial discussion, because there are already threads about it, it's just an example).

    My point is: judging someone else's distortions doesn't seems to me as something that can increase our negative polarity. It doesn't seem wrong to me. It's just a perception.

    Over the past few months I have been dealing with a difficult and challenging catalyst having to do with a person I love and my difficulty seeing and noticing her distortions. With the fear of judging, I put myself in a situation of emotional fragility and realized that I was going down the path of martyrdom. Ra talked about the green ray entities being ineffective in the face of others' blockages as opposed to the blue ray entities. It always seemed to me that the path is this balance between wisdom and compassion, but in practice we end up being victims of immoderate love and we close our eyes to things that hurt us.

    Does anyone have an opinion or thought about it?

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      What's the difference between planetary 3rd density heating and global warming?
    Posted by: onLIKE_7_was a number - 07-18-2021, 12:38 AM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (24)

    Hi everyone,

    what's the difference between planetary 3rd density heating and global warming?....

    i’m new to the Law of One, maybe i have it all wrong..but i see these two subjects as linked…any thoughts? Confused

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      Intelligent Energy as Artist
    Posted by: Steppingfeet - 07-16-2021, 01:20 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (15)

    Over the years I have seen the most astounding transformations of our world and our human-made artifacts into art, wondrous art. (Reddit has been a great source for that.)

    I mean, everything and anything: leaves, hair, light, glass, blades of grass, pictures, paper plates, cheetos, plants, watermelon… I can’t remember the sometimes mind-boggling transformations I’ve seen. But it’s especially outstanding when art is made from that which is rejected or consider unappealing by society, like… again I’m having trouble with examples (that’s part of my cognitive limitation: the principle remains, the examples fade)… maybe garbage, or refuse, or garden weeds…

    And it occurred to me that in the hands of an artist, literally any raw material or energy or experience can be transformed into art. There is no limitation. If something exists it creation, it can be turned into or become a part of art, including one’s suffering being transferred to canvas or to melody.

    And in the wake of that thought, a new insight arrived, new for me at least.

    Intelligent Energy is the artist. We, the mind/body/spirit complex, are its material - its canvas for creating beauty, love, light, and art.

    Quote:Ra: The precision with which each energy center matches the Original Thought lies not in the systematic placement of each energy nexus but rather in the fluid and plastic placement of the balanced blending of these energy centers in such a way that intelligent energy is able to channel itself with minimal distortion. – 54.8

    What does “channel itself” mean? It means that we don’t need to carry the misplaced burden of manufacturing our “spiritual” selves and our “spiritual” service into that idealized image against which we judge ourselves. I mean, there is a spiritual self within, and a spiritual service to offer, and significant work to do, but, in a fashion, we incarnate beings are not necessarily the artists or authors.

    In one way of looking at it, our job is to clear out our blockages, heal the incarnation, balance and activate our centers, accept and love our catalyst, and render ourselves transparent to the One, which mystical texts refer to as surrender. Intelligent energy, then, will use us and shape us for Its higher, universal purpose. The human becomes a vessel for an intelligence greater than its incarnate intelligence.

    But I’ve not yet arrived at why I love this thought so much.  I believe most of us have various standards against which we judge ourselves. While this has lessened for me enormously with age, many may still experience pangs of wanting to be as… <this is only partly self-confessional> intelligent as that person, as well-read, as well-spoken, as less awkward, as more accomplished, as credentialed, as funny, as caring, as wise, as… any quality which one feels is deficient within the self. Sometimes this is superficial, sometimes this highlights some deeper judgment in the relationship with self, or sometimes it brings attention to a positive goal one does seek to learn or embody.

    Either way, there may arise a persona about who the self is which feeds into unworthiness. One may even measure the whole incarnation, take survey of their present predicament, and think that the distance between their present self and who they “should” be or want to be is too vast, they will never “make it” in this life, they are too broken or wrong or simply insufficiently developed. They have judged themselves.

    Now loop back to the premise that *everything* can be transformed into art in the hands of the artist.  The you that you see right now is precisely that material which intelligent energy is waiting to use. The you that you see right now is perfect as it is. It doesn’t need to be any other human, it doesn't quite need to meet a standard imposed on the self, it just needs accepted and forgiven, compassionately seen and understood. As Eckhart Tolle says “What you accept will get you there.”

    You are the gift to intelligent energy. Just as you are. All your pain and confusion and various mental knots, all your biography in its mundanity and seeming error, all your deficiencies and insufficiencies (as judgment would have it), all the ways that you are clearly imperfect - this is exactly this material awaiting forgiveness so that intelligent energy can render it true and beautiful, to restore that which was rejected into that which is holy through remembrance of birthright and true nature.

    Clean off the dirt of judgment and non-forgiveness, be your you'est you, and let Intelligent Energy find Its way to render you into art.

    And call your mother more often.

    [Chapter on Intelligent Energy from L/L's latest book attached if interested.]



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      The manifestation of time
    Posted by: Loki - 07-08-2021, 02:56 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (21)

    I want to apologize in advance for potentially wasting your time by reading the following.

    It seems to me that the Creator and its Creation cannot be explained without a consciousness form of absolute time which is ignited when the Infinity becomes aware.

    The emergence of Intelligent Infinity results in ignition of consciousness absolute time and the activation of free will. Intention or thinking are a sequential conscious manifestations which are constrained by a certain order in the sequence. Any change of order in the sequence would result in a change of the outcome. But the sequential nature of thinking implies that even during the a-temporal phase of creation there is a form of temporal manifestation at consciousness level.

    Channelling knowledge tells us there are two forms of evolution a temporal phase when the space/time time/space are active and an a-temporal phase in the very beginning and towards the end of creation.

    Judging from the material it seems that space/time and time/space are not really two sides of the same coin but there is rather a hierarchical relation between the two. Space/time is what in fact creates the temporal portion of creation and can be associated with Matter but time/space is technically the a-temporal phase of creation and is associated with Love/Light. As result between incarnations we move from the temporal to the a-temporal plane. But in the a-temporal phase of the creation there is still a consciousness time passing when decisions are made.

    This has some implications. There is only a unique present moment from consciousness time point of view. While the Creator can individualize itself up to entity level all parts of the Creator will be in the same present moment of the consciousness time. This makes true simultaneity impossible at consciousness time level and at creation level.

    Moving up from space/time (temporal) to time/space (a-temporal) we can review all the past present moments and all the future present moments. This is the simultaneity we are allowed to see but this does not mean we can ever turn-back and take a different path from an intersection and it is not a true simultaneity. Between incarnations when we review the snapshots of past presents or of future presents we will still look at them as at a real present but they are not. From creation point of view the only difference and the most important between a real present and a past or future present is the fact that the real present is associated with the consciousness time present while all the other presents are not.

    While this consciousness time might be hard to digest it helps clarifying the Higher Self. If we include the consciousness absolute time the difference between higher self and self becomes just a matter of vantage point.

    We entities are strings of individualized consciousness with one end anchored in Creator and unity through the spirit, and the other end anchored in Creation and individuality though the body.
    Between the Creation and Creator both consciousness and matter (intelligent light) ascend on the conscious dimension. Higher Self is a matter of vantage point somewhere between Creator and Creation.
    A vantage point from where all the past and future moments up to sixth density can be seen at all time. When the self opens the time/space door moves up from space/time closer to Creator and can pick at past and future.

    The higher self of a social memory complex appears when multiple conscious strings (entities) unify their conscience while in creation. The multiple conscious strings with their ends unified in Creation and in Creator become a single string of consciousness.

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      How genuine is your intentions after understanding the Law of One?
    Posted by: J.W. - 07-05-2021, 05:10 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (28)

    Hi there,

    Abstract:

    In the Law of One, we learned about the "laws" to graduate into positive and negative polarities, or repeat. This information created a entry point to pierce the "veil." The "veil," essentially is responsible for your amnesia from last life, and it veils you from seeing the rules on the "chess board." The purpose is to preserve one's freewill. If you play a game knowing everything about it, then your choices would be to maximize the benefit of what you can obtain.

    Kind of like "Easter eggs" in video games, it is unknown to the players (especially new players.) But if there was a cheat sheet out there, most would try to find the eggs following the "cheat sheet," and this takes away the genuine "surprise" and "experience" that the creator wanted the players to experience.

    Questions: (These questions are formulated under the assumption that you understand the "chess board.")

    1. After reading the Law of One, do you find yourself making choices in a "rationalized" manner?
    i.e. "I want to graduate to 4th, so doing this will help me get there." or "Oh, death is not permanent, I put my faith in the creator and trust wherever I will go has a purpose for me."

    2. How do you reason with yourself when you do something good, or bad to another-self?

    3. When you are seeking, whether for metaphysical healing, philosophy, science, or just from curiosity. Do you find that it is to serve yourself first?


    with l/l

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    Lightbulb The system of sevens: looking for help in understanding this concept
    Posted by: Moonfox - 07-02-2021, 10:53 PM - Forum: Strictly Law of One Material - Replies (8)

    Quote:91.15 Questioner: Is it common for Logo[i] to have twenty-two archetypes or is this relatively unique with respect to our Logos?

    Ra: I am Ra. The system of sevens is the most articulated system yet discovered by any experiment by any Logos in our octave.

    Can someone point me to a good definition of the systems of sevens in regards to understanding tarot?

    One source is calling it the "square of sevens"

    I found this:

    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/19687/19...9687-h.htm

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